The Lawn Mower Man.

[VoteJP]

Excellent.

NFCU has monitors at the drive thru lanes.

Cameras.

The Hollywood PNC Bank does have a camera at its drive through lanes, and I believe it has two (2) cameras for its drive through lanes, with one camera inside the building pointing outward and another camera outside over the drive through area.



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You keep framing it like this was an intentional act. Yogi walked in the street when he shouldn't have and got run over. It's really not complicated.

There are many things between innocent and "intentional" as like the driver being reckless or impaired or negligent.

Plus whatever the lawnmower man did is not an excuse for what the Police Officer did, and that is a simple but real complication.

Another thing that I want to point out is that any claim that Officer Goldston did not see the lawnmower man is simply and factually not true, because officer Goldston never said any such thing.

We could ask if he saw Mr Baird 100 feet before striking him? or did he see the pedestrian just ten (10) feet away? or did he see the man after the State Police vehicle hit the man? or did he only see Yogi only after his dead body was spread out on the roadway? because the cop that killed Yogi said no such thing.

So the claim that officer Goldston "did not see" our lawnmower man is not true, and it is in fact a lie.

That claim is not a piece of evidence as it is not a piece of testimony as it is a totally baseless claim with not an ounce of validity.

 

[Merlin99]

Cameras.

The Hollywood PNC Bank does have a camera at its drive through lanes, and I believe it has two (2) cameras for its drive through lanes, with one camera inside the building pointing outward and another camera outside over the drive through area.



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There are many things between innocent and "intentional" as like the driver being reckless or impaired or negligent.

Plus whatever the lawnmower man did is not an excuse for what the Police Officer did, and that is a simple but real complication.

Another thing that I want to point out is that any claim that Officer Goldston did not see the lawnmower man is simply and factually not true, because officer Goldston never said any such thing.

We could ask if he saw Mr Baird 100 feet before striking him? or did he see the pedestrian just ten (10) feet away? or did he see the man after the State Police vehicle hit the man? or did he only see Yogi only after his dead body was spread out on the roadway? because the cop that killed Yogi said no such thing.

So the claim that officer Goldston "did not see" our lawnmower man is not true, and it is in fact a lie.

That claim is not a piece of evidence as it is not a piece of testimony as it is a totally baseless claim with not an ounce of validity.

Give it up Jimmy, investigator is another on a very long list of things that you are not good at.

 

[Lurk]

Give it up Jimmy, investigator is another on a very long list of things that you are not good at.

It is obvious Jimmy spends too much time on CSI-type shows. Of course every evil killing is proven with DNA and unexpected videos in an hour or less. What the hell is wrong with Maryland, anyway? Harmon would have solved this months ago.

 

[officeguy]

Another thing that I want to point out is that any claim that Officer Goldston did not see the lawnmower man is simply and factually not true, because officer Goldston never said any such thing.

Of course he did.

This is officer Goldstons written statement the night of the accident (this is my transcription of his handwritten statement, so no quibbling about individual words or punctuation):


On 1/19/10 at 1856 hours I was off duty travelling S/B Mervell Dean Rd h/o Beck Rd. in unmarked MSP unit 434. This area of the roadway is dark with no street lights. Just north of Beck Rd. I struck a pedestrian that was in the roadway with a Push mower. I did not see the subject in the roadway until impact. I immediately slowed my vehicle down at Beck road, exited and checked the subject that I struck. At the same time, I made contact with another operator of a vehicle that was a short distance behind me. It was determined that the subject was deceased and I immediately notified MSP Leonardtown via cell Phone.


You really need to learn how to read these kinds of records before you make the kind of outlandish accusations you are throwing around here.

 

[VoteJP]

Excellent.

Of course he did.

This is officer Goldstons written statement the night of the accident (this is my transcription of his handwritten statement, so no quibbling about individual words or punctuation):


On 1/19/10 at 1856 hours I was off duty travelling S/B Mervell Dean Rd h/o Beck Rd. in unmarked MSP unit 434. This area of the roadway is dark with no street lights. Just north of Beck Rd. I struck a pedestrian that was in the roadway with a Push mower. I did not see the subject in the roadway until impact. I immediately slowed my vehicle down at Beck road, exited and checked the subject that I struck. At the same time, I made contact with another operator of a vehicle that was a short distance behind me. It was determined that the subject was deceased and I immediately notified MSP Leonardtown via cell Phone.


You really need to learn how to read these kinds of records before you make the kind of outlandish accusations you are throwing around here.

Okay, it is true, and I admit that you got me on that one.

Of course him saying that it was "dark" and him specifically saying that there was "no street light" means that he lied on that report, because we know that the area is very well lighted including the street light and another bright light from the Adult Daycare building across the road from the point of contact.

So you are correct that he said that he did not see the lawnmower man, but since he lied about the lighting then that discredits everything else he claimed.

 

[officeguy]

Of course him saying that it was "dark" and him specifically saying that there was "no street light" means that he lied on that report, because we know that the area is very well lighted including the street light and another bright light from the Adult Daycare building across the road from the point of contact.

It matches the statements of the other witnesses to the accident. Short of you being an eyewitness, I dont think what you 'know' is terribly relevant.

 

[VoteJP]

Excellent.

It matches the statements of the other witnesses to the accident. Short of you being an eyewitness, I dont think what you 'know' is terribly relevant.

Honestly the witness saying it was dark there and could not see a man on the road or near the road is just rubbish.

My own opinion is that when the police wrongfully kill a person then they will plant a gun onto the victim so to make the victim into a criminal, and my guess is that the police manufactured the witness for Officer Goldston too.

And your claim that anyone has got to be an eyewitness is truly not correct, because I like many other people who grew up in Hollywood and we know that the street light is there and has been there for countless years and years and years, and the Adult Day care Center on the opposite side of that accident scene use to be the old Hollywood Elementary school, so the lighting at that location is a very long term and permanent fixture.

It would be different if he blamed some poor visibility because of a storm or strong wind or rain or power outage but there was none of that.

The Police Officer had a long quarter of a mile of clear roadway with rather bright lighting as he ran over top of the lawnmower man.

The cop saying otherwise or any witness(es) saying otherwise is just not true.

But I do agree that what I know is not relevant to the Police or to the State's Attorney, but neither is the truth or the justice nor the life of Mr Baird relevant to them either.

 

[BadGirl]

 

[desertrat]

Honestly the witness saying it was dark there and could not see a man on the road or near the road is just rubbish.

My own opinion is that when the police wrongfully kill a person then they will plant a gun onto the victim so to make the victim into a criminal, and my guess is that the police manufactured the witness for Officer Goldston too.

And your claim that anyone has got to be an eyewitness is truly not correct, because I like many other people who grew up in Hollywood and we know that the street light is there and has been there for countless years and years and years, and the Adult Day care Center on the opposite side of that accident scene use to be the old Hollywood Elementary school, so the lighting at that location is a very long term and permanent fixture.

It would be different if he blamed some poor visibility because of a storm or strong wind or rain or power outage but there was none of that.

The Police Officer had a long quarter of a mile of clear roadway with rather bright lighting as he ran over top of the lawnmower man.

The cop saying otherwise or any witness(es) saying otherwise is just not true.

But I do agree that what I know is not relevant to the Police or to the State's Attorney, but neither is the truth or the justice nor the life of Mr Baird relevant to them either.

All I have to say if you cannot stop within what your headlights are showing you is you are either driving too fast or not paying attention. I don't give a damn what is in the road, or what lane, you should be able to avoid or stop if it is worth avoiding. The cop screwed up.

 

[officeguy]

Honestly the witness saying it was dark there and could not see a man on the road or near the road is just rubbish.

I see, they are all lying and you are right.

 

[VoteJP]

Excellent.

I see, they are all lying and you are right.

You might make fun of this, but you are stooping low.

The cop said there was no street light when there still is that same street light at that same location - so the cop did lie.

This has nothing to do with me being right, and I had just admitted in a previous posting that I had made a mistake in this myself.

I refer you back to the link on posting #1 because I agree with that person that I find many people around here who do not believe the claim that Yogi the lawnmower man was at fault for what the State Police officer did. And the link in Posting #43, because those people are intent enough to give their real name into the public Newspaper and decry the injustice based on those same lies of blaming the dead man for what the cop did.

I know some people do claim that it is police-haters as if some people just hate the police, but surely are we to love or to like the Police who run down a beloved member of our community and then the other Police cover it up and the State's Attorney pretend that the lies are the truth? hell no.

 

[VoteJP]

Excellent.

All I have to say if you cannot stop within what your headlights are showing you is you are either driving too fast or not paying attention. I don't give a damn what is in the road, or what lane, you should be able to avoid or stop if it is worth avoiding. The cop screwed up.

That really is very correct, in that even if that road had been pitch dark of night, and no street light and no light from across the road as there was, so that the road was pitch black dark, then the headlights alone on the Police vehicle was enough for any healthy person driving to see the road ahead and to act to avoid hitting the object in the road.

I have had deer jump out in front of me and I have just barely missed hitting the animals, but the lawnmower man certainly did not and could not jump out in front of anyone.

The cop had headlights and near a quarter mile of roadway visibility and he fails to prevent the accident - which I say equals a charge of manslaughter, or worse.

Instead they let the killer go and blame the victim simply because the police can not face up to their own wrongs, and the police have a misguided and immoral type of loyalty to each other with a less regard for our community.

 

[officeguy]

You might make fun of this, but you are stooping low.

I am not making fun of the accident. I am making fun of you because I think you are pretty far out to lunch.

 

[Gilligan]

I am not making fun of the accident. I am making fun of you because I think you are pretty far out to lunch.

That.

 

[VoteJP]

Excellent.

Give it up Jimmy, investigator is another on a very long list of things that you are not good at.

I can not decipher whatever you mean by "give it up" so I do confess that I do know that there is no hope or expectation of that criminal cop being prosecuted - certainly not, so if that is whatever you mean by "give it up" then yes I give up that.

And truly I am not seeking any new evidence against that killer cop because there is already enough evidence for charges of manslaughter as there was way back when the killing first took place, and that is still true today.

The only thing that I can do which is the same as the many other people regarding this tragedy who have spoken out or have written to the Newspapers is to keep trying to expose the depravity and the disloyalty of our Police and of our State's Attorney office, and never accept their lies.

One thing that decent people can do is to reject and deny the wrong-doing and the lies of those who perpetrate such things, and that is never to be given up.

 

[VoteJP]

Response:

Well it happened and you folks want to blame the cop?

It is not a matter of "WANTING" to blame the cop - no, it is that it was the cop who ran over a pedestrian without justification.

It appears that the presentation is that the cop did nothing wrong since everything the cop did is being blamed onto the dead man who the cop ran over.

Did that cop do nothing wrong? did that cop make no mistake? can we honestly blame the dead victim for what the unharmed police officer did?

People blame that cop for what that cop did do, which was to senselessly run over a beloved member of our community without justification.



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... maybe like Al Sharpton with the Trayvon Austin case you can get justice for the lawnmower man.

I would be happy to do that myself, but more so is that we need some one of the stature of Reverend Al Sharpton which we do not have standing up for justice here in our St Mary's County.

The bigger problem is that here we have far too many white sheep as citizens who are too timid and too sold out to the establishment for any such protest for such a righteous cause as the killing of our lawnmower man.

The Reverend Al Sharpton and other civil rights' leaders went to Florida in the Trayvon Martin case because the family along with many members of that community were moral enough to see the horrible wrong and they tried to do some thing about the injustice and they invited Reverend Sharpton into their community.

Here in our SMC the people are far too timid to tell our Police Department and our State's Attorney about their cowardly inaction in the case of Officer Goldston killing our lawnmower man.

Ours is a sad reality, and here we shall live within our own making.

 

[Gilligan]

Ours is a sad reality, and here we shall live within our own making.

Does that mean yr done?

 

[VoteJP]

Excellent.

You might make fun of this, but you are stooping low.

I know some people do claim that it is police-haters as if some people just hate the police, but surely are we to love or to like the Police who run down a beloved member of our community and then the other Police cover it up and the State's Attorney pretend that the lies are the truth? hell no.

That thing about the Police (including Courts and State's Attorney office) giving out their claim that they are different because there are "Police-haters" which makes so the Police need (need) to protect themselves from the haters - does not hold up under scrutiny.

As in if the Police prosecute the officer Goldston then that will open a vulnerability for the police-haters to capitalize onto.

The Police can dish it out, but the Police can not take their own medicine.

Put that under scrutiny and every person whoever gets arrested or commits a crime then they along with their friends and family has to take the heat from the public and very often from a public backlash, which means every common person in the entire USA (the entire world really) has got to take the heat which their local police dish out.
So is it that the Police can not take their own heat because of the public backlash of the common folk?

But in fact there have been big groups who have been prosecuted, as like President Nixon bit the dust, and the Catholic Church has its own haters and yet they came clean about their wrong doings, and even celebrities like Paris Hilton and Martha Stewart faced up to the police and to their prosecution, but here again as in the killing of our lawnmower man the Police can not take their own medicine, and the Police are covering up their own wrong as if the police are above the law since the police-haters are somehow out there and out to get the police.

Of course there is that thing about responsibility and liability, in that the police can be sued for their wrong doing and it can be a lot of money, but that is true for everyone, as in Doctors have to pay for any doctoring done wrong, and every person driving a car is to have our own liability insurance in case any of us run over a lawnmower man, so the Police who do wrong are indeed to pay damages or penalties too, as in the cop who ran down Mr Baird did not even chip in for his funeral expense because the cop is claiming that Yogi (Mr Baird) is the one at fault for what the cop did, as in Yogi is the reason that the cop ran over top of him, so maybe the family (or the estate) of Yogi needs to pay for the damage done to that police vehicle? since it is claimed that the victim is the one who did it to the police.

Of course Mr Baird, 88, actually had a military funeral service provided by the VA because he had been an honorably discharged member of the National Guard.