They have started tearing down the new pope already

Pete

Repete
Headline states "New Pope's Ex-Students Express Skepticism" Now that headline would lead you to believe they went and found students he taught. They would be in their 50's because he quit teaching that at that school in 1969. Read the story, the "ex-students" they talk to are 20 years old. :rolleyes: what these hacks did is went to one of the most liberal colleges in Germany and asked a bunch of 20 year old current students what they thought.

:rolleyes:

It is UFB ooops, religion thread, ....it is unbelievable that these people are tearing the man down before the white smoke even clears. Of course he was a conservative, THAT is EXACTLY the job John Paul II appinted him to. JP II picked Ratzinger to be the guardian of the orthadoxy and be the bad guy SO HE would not have to. Can't be going around being the Holy Father, loved by all, compassionate and kind while you are crushing the melons of renegade priests and nuns now can you?

Ratzinger did EXACTLY what JP wanted him to do. I am not Catholic, but as I understand it Catholisism is all about traditions, centuries, even thousands of years old. How long would the Catholic Church have lasted if they changed orthodoxy every time the wind blew.

I think they need to get off the man and let him pontificate and do what popes do.
 

Tonio

Asperger's Poster Child
Speaking as a non-Catholic, I think any cardinal that would follow John Paul II as Pope would face a challenge. JPII was a doctrinal conservative too, but he had an enormous amount of personal charisma, and his worldwide travels during his papacy reached millions of Catholics. An entire generation of Catholics has grown up knowing only JPII as Pope.

Also, Wojtyla wasn't well known outside of Catholicism, so his stances on Church doctrine weren't as well known as Ratzinger's are.

Pete, you have an excellent point. While I don't like religious doctrine and orthodoxy in general, I agree that part of being a Catholic is accepting the Church's strict doctrine. Maybe most of Benedict XVI's detractors should either work within the Church to promote reforms or just find another denomination.
 
Tonio said:
Speaking as a non-Catholic......part of being a Catholic is accepting the Church's strict doctrine. Maybe most of Benedict XVI's detractors should either work within the Church to promote reforms or just find another denomination.
Excellent post. Both of you gentlemen made very good points. No matter who they elected, unless he was female, minority, gay, liberal and 20 years old, the liberals would be upset.
 

Pete

Repete
huntr1 said:
Excellent post. Both of you gentlemen made very good points. No matter who they elected, unless he was female, minority, gay, liberal and 20 years old, the liberals would be upset.
The people complaining seem very hypocritical to me. I would like to know how many complaining he is too conservative are not even catholic. To join the Catholic church and then complain about it being too strict is loony. The media is just hot to stir controversey so they have something to talk about.
 
Pete said:
The people complaining seem very hypocritical to me. I would like to know how many complaining he is too conservative are not even catholic. To join the Catholic church and then complain about it being too strict is loony. The media is just hot to stir controversey so they have something to talk about.
My thoughts exactly. I was raised southern baptist. When I got married, I agreed to raise the kids Catholic. Since I have never been particularily religous, I agreed to attend whatever church my wife wanted to attend. Only rule is there HAS to be some singing. I may not agree with all the stuff the church says/does, but you don't hear me complaining about it publicly.
 
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