They should give the teachers stun guns
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hvp05
Methodically disorganized
I do not disagree with you, but I am not convinced a taser would have helped this teacher.
The story is not specific enough about how the two boys attacked the teacher, but I am guessing they surprised him and knocked him down. By the time he realized what was happening his neck was already broken and the kids had run.
I found this bit about the boys interesting as well:
The story is not specific enough about how the two boys attacked the teacher, but I am guessing they surprised him and knocked him down. By the time he realized what was happening his neck was already broken and the kids had run.
I found this bit about the boys interesting as well:
I wonder why this action was "in process" and not immediately done.
Penn
Dancing Up A Storm
That's a tough call, either way you look at it. Teachers have come under attack in schools, now more than ever it seems. We would have never contemplated an attack on any of our teachers when I went to school, but as we all know, times are, and have been changing.
Seems to me though, the same parents who have not been doing their jobs at home with these kids, would be the first to scream bloody murder, if the school system decided to provide tasers to teachers and their aides, guidance counselors, or what-have-you.
And yet, I do agree, that better protection has to be afforded our nation's educators than they are currently being provided.
Seems to me though, the same parents who have not been doing their jobs at home with these kids, would be the first to scream bloody murder, if the school system decided to provide tasers to teachers and their aides, guidance counselors, or what-have-you.
And yet, I do agree, that better protection has to be afforded our nation's educators than they are currently being provided.
Vrai,
A few weeks back, Fox aired some videos taken by students with their cell phones and one guy was trying to make it seem like the teachers were raging and showing lack of class. I saw the video differently. The teacher's were frustrated with the lack of respect when they were told not to do something and continued to do it anyway.
I do not know how the teachers put up with the non-sense they have to put up with today. I do not remember any student having to be told NOT to something more than once without being sent to the office and having to call mom or dad.
A person can only take so much disrespect! Oh and it was over the students having and using cell phones in class to text, video tape, etc.
This
lawyer said cell phones should be kept in schools to record moments like that. I wanted to reach in the TV and slap him twice! 
Kids today are FAR more testy and pushy then we ever were.
A few weeks back, Fox aired some videos taken by students with their cell phones and one guy was trying to make it seem like the teachers were raging and showing lack of class. I saw the video differently. The teacher's were frustrated with the lack of respect when they were told not to do something and continued to do it anyway.
I do not know how the teachers put up with the non-sense they have to put up with today. I do not remember any student having to be told NOT to something more than once without being sent to the office and having to call mom or dad.
A person can only take so much disrespect! Oh and it was over the students having and using cell phones in class to text, video tape, etc.
This
lawyer said cell phones should be kept in schools to record moments like that. I wanted to reach in the TV and slap him twice! Kids today are FAR more testy and pushy then we ever were.
It's Dr. Spock's fault:Pandora said:
http://vision.org/visionmedia/article.aspx?id=583
All these hippies running around without a clue, fighting the power even though now they ARE the power, raised a generation of self-indulgent gimme kids who think respect is their God given right, not something they have to earn.
These punks that beat up the teacher were raised by people who were raised on Spock. Their Moms and Dads weren't properly disciplined - they were over-indulged by permissive parents in child-centered households who wanted little Jr. to feel "loved" and "valuable".
These self-involved parents begat children that they didn't know how to care for. The needs of their child just didn't register with them because they were so used to everything being all about them, their feelings, their wants.
The children of these self-involved parents (the current generation) grew up drifting. If Mommy has never known criticism, she's definitely not going to risk being unpopular by telling her offspring "no". And she remembers how much she hated it on the rare occasion when her folks told her she couldn't do something, or her behavior was wrong. So she has vowed to never make her children hate her the way she hated her parents.
So when Jr. gets in trouble, Mommy runs to his rescue rather than slap him upside the head. If someone dares criticize her baby, even after he's robbed a liquor store and shot the clerk, Mommy is right there to be the good guy and hero. Therefore Jr. won't take responsibility for his actions and acts on his every whim because he was never taught discipline and he's never been encouraged to think of anyone else but himself.
This is just my theory du jour
And it's certainly not true across the board - just a generalization.
I'm running off at the mouth before I get on the dreadmill, so here's some more
Remember the old "Children learn what they live" posters from when we were kids? Here's my take on it:
Think about all these celebrities, with more encouragement, praise, approval, tolerance and security than most people have. And what do they do? They become self-destructive. They get involved with drugs, don't have stable personal relationships, and some even commit suicide.
That can't be a coincidence.
Remember the old "Children learn what they live" posters from when we were kids? Here's my take on it:
Think about all these celebrities, with more encouragement, praise, approval, tolerance and security than most people have. And what do they do? They become self-destructive. They get involved with drugs, don't have stable personal relationships, and some even commit suicide.
That can't be a coincidence.
vraiblonde said:
Many of those types of people are over achievers, and think about it this way, Brit has all these people saying "yes" to her all the time. Those people need true people in their lives that will give them the cunning truth without viciously attacking and say no for her own best interest. Those are few and far between up the fame chain.
If everyone is praising you, there is nothing left to achieve. It is those who give us constructive criticism that allow us to achieve greater things, depending on how we take it and how the message is delivered.
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Inkpen
Guest
There was a time when kids had and used manners and and teachers were liked and respected. and parents took responsibility for their kids and did not expect the school to solve all the family problems.
Giving teaches a stun gun...not the answer, but sure would beat the old wooden ruler across the knuckles..OUCH!!!
Giving teaches a stun gun...not the answer, but sure would beat the old wooden ruler across the knuckles..OUCH!!!
hvp05
Methodically disorganized
vraiblonde said:This is just my theory du jour
There is criticism that is bad and that which is good. If Billy is working on a school project and you see him doing something wrong would you say (a) "Why are you doing it that way, you idiot?", or (b) "You're doing that wrong. Do you want me to help?"vraiblonde said:
I will probably raise my child[ren] with the same mentality that I give (and receive) during a photography critique: blunt but honest. Avoid being wishy-washy by being clear, but mind the tone of the presentation so any advice is taken constructively and not hurtfully.
I read this at an appropriate time: soon after watching "Sit Down Comedy with David Steinberg" featuring Jerry Seinfeld on TV Land.vraiblonde said:
In the show's final few minutes the mike was given to the audience. One person asked Jerry (paraphrased), "Do you ever think about doing another t.v. show?" He kind of delayed and said, "Nnnno." He said he was on the air for 9 years doing the show he wanted with the people he wanted. Anything else could not possibly be as good.
Seinfeld had the world on the tip of his finger and he did not collapse. Is that because he was not in the spotlight when he was still a baby, like many stars? Is that because his parents did something better? Or maybe because he has an inherently stronger character than ANS or Spears?
I think stars represent the point that if someone lives to extremes they risk some extreme downfall. Dying early; drug use; having their kids removed could all be included. What's worse, for many of the parents that are not adequately raising their children, the children can easily attach themselves to surrogate parents - those most visible, appealing members of our culture.
Wickedwrench
Stubborn and opinionated
hvp05 said:
He could at least give us one more episode. The series finale sucked like a hoover.
I completely agree with that.hvp05 said:
Many kids these days don't even get constructive criticism. We hear story after story about schools removing competition in everything from sports to academics to supposedly prevent children from feeling bad about themselves if they're not as good at something as their peers. Ideally what you do with the kid that's weaker in a particular area is teach them to do it better, or focus them on something they ARE good at.
hvp05
Methodically disorganized
Right; I never have understood the mentality that "everyone should feel and be good at everything".vraiblonde said:
Here's a clue: we are not all the same. Some people are meant to be accountants, others actors. Some people are gregarious, others reserved. Some people are highly intellectual, others boneheads. To deny these things is to oppose natural law.
But that does not mean everyone can not be good at something... even the boneheads. Children just need to be guided correctly. To be indifferent allows them to create their own reality, and that is virtually never a good path to begin.
Penn
Dancing Up A Storm
The bad and the good.....
These two ideas should be required reading for most, if not all parents today.
HOW you criticise and/or correct your kids, makes a huge difference in the way it is received. Constructive critique is the way to go, in my opinion, plus - it sends a message that you care about them and have an interest in their achievements.
I would take that with a certain amount of pride, that my parents loved and cared about me enough, to take the time to guide me along the way.
These two ideas should be required reading for most, if not all parents today.
HOW you criticise and/or correct your kids, makes a huge difference in the way it is received. Constructive critique is the way to go, in my opinion, plus - it sends a message that you care about them and have an interest in their achievements.
I would take that with a certain amount of pride, that my parents loved and cared about me enough, to take the time to guide me along the way.
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