This Is the Worst Place to Commute from in the United States
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GWguy
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So now NYC is planning a "congestion tax". Could add $11-15 to your daily commute into NYC. Apparently been tried in major cities like London, and has been shown to work. It lessens traffic congestion, lessens measured air pollution, reduces travel times.....
Still trying to understand how it all works. Just saw a blurb on the news just now, but the details weren't clear.
www.nbcnewyork.com
If NYC adopts it, probably not long before DC does too.
Still trying to understand how it all works. Just saw a blurb on the news just now, but the details weren't clear.
NYC to Be First US City to Use Congestion Pricing: So How Exactly Will It Work?
New York City is set to become the first American metropolis that seeks to ease traffic congestion, cut pollution and boost mass transit by charging people a hefty toll for the privilege of driving into its most crammed areas. So can it work?
www.nbcnewyork.com
If NYC adopts it, probably not long before DC does too.
black dog
Free America
So now NYC is planning a "congestion tax". Could add $11-15 to your daily commute into NYC. Apparently been tried in major cities like London, and has been shown to work. It lessens traffic congestion, lessens measured air pollution, reduces travel times.....
Still trying to understand how it all works. Just saw a blurb on the news just now, but the details weren't clear.
NYC to Be First US City to Use Congestion Pricing: So How Exactly Will It Work?
New York City is set to become the first American metropolis that seeks to ease traffic congestion, cut pollution and boost mass transit by charging people a hefty toll for the privilege of driving into its most crammed areas. So can it work?
If NYC adopts it, probably not long before DC does too.
Is it not already in use with the toll lanes on 495 in Va and the County Interconnect-er from Montgomery to 95?
The well to do cruise by the serfs sitting for hours...
GWguy
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Yes, that is one implementation and does help. Difference is that you can choose your path. The NYC implementation uses license plate scanners and tags everyone. The hope is to get folks to choose mass transit intra-city instead of taxi, private car, etc. There really isn't much of a mass transit option on 66/495/95.
nobody really
I need a nap
the fb page about 210 is hysterical most days.
I just started taking commuter bus 850. lovin' it so far.
I just started taking commuter bus 850. lovin' it so far.
Ken Robinson, what an elitist ass
So now NYC is planning a "congestion tax". Could add $11-15 to your daily commute into NYC. Apparently been tried in major cities like London, and has been shown to work. It lessens traffic congestion, lessens measured air pollution, reduces travel times.....
Still trying to understand how it all works. Just saw a blurb on the news just now, but the details weren't clear.
NYC to Be First US City to Use Congestion Pricing: So How Exactly Will It Work?
New York City is set to become the first American metropolis that seeks to ease traffic congestion, cut pollution and boost mass transit by charging people a hefty toll for the privilege of driving into its most crammed areas. So can it work?
If NYC adopts it, probably not long before DC does too.
SImple, you make it so expensive to drive in, only the elite can afford to take a private vehicle. It's a communist style solution, do as I say, not as I do.
We all can ride the bus, which will bake more stops. Common mans mode of transportation.
Where does that revenue go? Probably not into the transportation budget, but the general fund.
Let's be brutally honest, the problem didn't occur overnight, it's been growing for decades. For decades the answer was simly to add another lane to the beltway, then they got the idea that maybe the feeder roads needed to be improved. The government hasn't led, they have been behind the curve.
What have they done? Sell off railroad right of ways and rip up tracks Commuter parking lots 45 minute drive away - now in the middle of the congestion. Call it concentrated congestion.
There is no practical way to add a bus lane to 5/301, but some half baked politician throws it out there.
5/301 is not a limited access highway. You have traffic at intersections making both left and right turns.
They have already expanded those roads and they are still congested, construction or restriction of a lane would only make it worse.
Sorry, but this is a long standing problem and mostly what we get is a lot of talk, grand plans with no funding (for good reason).
But mostly it's becasue the tri-county area, most of it, is found to be not worth serving. It's left to a few private bus companies to run "for profit" operations. Very little in the way of competition either.
Between work travel and where I've lived, it's more common than not to extend commuter rail service to the outlying suburbs - even light rail.
The upside, decent all weather transportation (if maintained); you can move a lot more people at a lower cost and lower carbon footprint.
The downside: Capital investment for construction and acquisition of equipment; grade level crossings which pose.; long term solution.
It's not unique, DC and Baltimore already have service, it just doesn't head south and east.
What have they done? Sell off railroad right of ways and rip up tracks Commuter parking lots 45 minute drive away - now in the middle of the congestion. Call it concentrated congestion.
There is no practical way to add a bus lane to 5/301, but some half baked politician throws it out there.
5/301 is not a limited access highway. You have traffic at intersections making both left and right turns.
They have already expanded those roads and they are still congested, construction or restriction of a lane would only make it worse.
Sorry, but this is a long standing problem and mostly what we get is a lot of talk, grand plans with no funding (for good reason).
But mostly it's becasue the tri-county area, most of it, is found to be not worth serving. It's left to a few private bus companies to run "for profit" operations. Very little in the way of competition either.
Between work travel and where I've lived, it's more common than not to extend commuter rail service to the outlying suburbs - even light rail.
The upside, decent all weather transportation (if maintained); you can move a lot more people at a lower cost and lower carbon footprint.
The downside: Capital investment for construction and acquisition of equipment; grade level crossings which pose.; long term solution.
It's not unique, DC and Baltimore already have service, it just doesn't head south and east.