Those enviro-nutties are at it again!

ylexot

Super Genius
truby20 said:
The data from the ice core does not clearly indicate the last 100 years since the axis covers 650k years.

This graph of CO2 readings from Mauna Loa shows that the current level of CO2 is at ~365ppm, that's much above the 300ppm spikes shown in the earlier graph. Manua Loa is considered as one of the best datasets we have of CO2 levels for the post Industrial Revolution time period.
Ok, so now you want to compare levels measured in the arctic trapped in ice bubble to levels measured directly in Hawaii. Are you sure there isn't a datum shift due to the difference in measurement location? If so, where's the explanation of that? Never mind...found this after following some links: http://www.mlo.noaa.gov/HISTORY/PUBLISH/20th anniv/co2.htm
The most notable was Kurt Buch of Finland, who concluded after many years of study that the CO2 concentration varied systematically with air mass. His claims (Keeling and Bacastow, 1977) that high arctic air had concentrations in the range of 150 to 230 ppm, north and middle Atlantic air, 310 to 345 ppm, and tropical air, 320 to 370 ppm, strongly influenced preparations for the IGY CO2 program, especially the Scandinavian program, which he initially supervised. When from inadequate chemical and sampling techniques the Scandinavian pre-lGY program produced CO2 concentrations in the same range as previous data, these new data were readily justified as resulting from different properties of the air masses passing over the sampling sites (Fonselius et al., 1956).
Sounds to me like we're still not up to the levels of ~125,000 years ago.
 

truby20

Fighting like a girl
vraiblonde said:
We've been dealing with AIDS for 25 years now and every single year, some money grubber cons the press into reporting a breakthrough, only to never have it pan out once they get their palms greased.
I wouldn't call the breakthrough of protease inhibitors a con. These drugs have prolonged millions of lives and made HIV no longer a death sentence. It is true that persons have to take these medications for the rest of their lives to stay healthy, paying the pharmacutical companies the entire time. But discoveries cost money, it's not like someone has a book with all the answers and is keeping it from us. These are just dedicated people trying to make a living doing something they believe in.
 
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