Throw a snowball, get a felony charge

vraiblonde

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LMAO. In this life of mine I have been called a lot of things, but this is the first time I have been called a pro-criminal enabler, and that for saying this child should not be charged with a felony.

Well, I wasn't talking about you specifically.

Back in *my* old days the cops did indeed haul you off and scare the chit out of you. I got busted for shoplifting when I was 12 or 13, of all the lowlife things to do, and the cop took me up to the office and called my mom. So there was that horror, then I got to go to court and have a very stern judge explain to me what would happen to me if I go down that path of larceny and don't mend my wicked ways.

Scared? You better believe it. I thought for sure I was going to be locked up in some home for wayward girls and gang raped by prison matrons. Of course the charges were dropped and my punishment was to be under house arrest for several weeks, but I never stole anything ever again. My sticky fingeredness was absolutely cured.

So what's the problem with scaring this kid straight? You know he isn't going to be convicted and the judge will toss it out and there will be no police record to hamper his future. If his parents even hire a lawyer to "defend" him, they are dumb####s. So why is it harsh? Because he'll be scared, is that what you all object to?
 

b23hqb

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A 13year old facing a felony charge for tossing a snowball??

That seems a little harsh to me. Sure he needs to be told he was wrong in a serious way, but not a felony charge, Come on.

At least they didn't put any rocks in the snowball or wet them and let them freeze before throwing them like we did, back when I was in High school .Kids do dumb things and sometimes they need a little bit of discipline, but a felony charge for a snowball seems a bit harsh to me.

It's not just assault - it's battery as well. But I agree, the charge is ridiculous, especially since there seems to a group to pick the thrower out of, unless he was snitched out, of course.

Unless unless, of course, of course, the snowball thrower was a white kid that hit a black cop, then the charge should be upgraded to a hate crime and attempted murder.:buddies:
 
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GURPS

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If the charge is dropped (and it will be) why would any potential employer ever hear the word "felony"?

But that does not negate a criminal history, which is not the same as a criminal record. Or do you not understand that and need me to make it even clearer than it already is?


you and I are looking at History / Record Differently ....

IMHO : History or Record can be one incident or many .....

it seems like History = Past and Record = current with you
 

vraiblonde

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you and I are looking at History / Record Differently ....

IMHO : History or Record can be one incident or many .....

it seems like History = Past and Record = current with you

There cannot be a "differently". Words have meaning and unless you are something other than an English speaking American, the terms will mean the same for you as they do for me.

If you have a criminal history, that means you have committed one or more crimes in the past at some point. It doesn't matter if you were convicted or even caught; the crime still exists, you still committed it, and you have a criminal history.

If you have a criminal record, there is an official charge and conviction in your past for a crime of some form.

I never understand what is so difficult about this stuff.
 

PsyOps

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If you have a criminal history, that means you have committed one or more crimes in the past at some point. It doesn't matter if you were convicted or even caught; the crime still exists, you still committed it, and you have a criminal history.

If you have a criminal record, there is an official charge and conviction in your past for a crime of some form.

I never understand what is so difficult about this stuff.

I know someone that was accused of some pretty serious crimes and acquitted on all counts. An innocent man free to go on with his life... right? The charges remained on his record for a year, then expunged. Even there they did not get wiped from his record automatically; he had to hire a lawyer to get a judge to clear his record.
 

Chris0nllyn

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I know someone that was accused of some pretty serious crimes and acquitted on all counts. An innocent man free to go on with his life... right? The charges remained on his record for a year, then expunged. Even there they did not get wiped from his record automatically; he had to hire a lawyer to get a judge to clear his record.

Potential gun buyers run the same risk.
 
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