No, if the drink is spiked than the person who spiked the drink is to blame. In my younger years I would get stumbling drunk on occasion but the bar tender never had to cut me off, If I was asked to leave I did so without making rude comments or causing a problem, and it was my choice to get that drunk so I didn't blame anyone for the vomiting, the hangover, or the cuts and bruises I got from running into everything while trying to walk. All I did the next morning was call myself an idiot and vow to never get that drunk again and after about 10 or 15 of those vows I finally decided to stop getting that drunk. I have a question for you, how is it that 99% of the people that go to these things manage to not get so drunk and probably belligerent that they are thrown out? I do not feel sorry at all for the 1% that can't control themselves.
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No, if the drink is spiked than the person who spiked the drink is to blame. In my younger years I would get stumbling drunk on occasion but the bar tender never had to cut me off, If I was asked to leave I did so without making rude comments or causing a problem, and it was my choice to get that drunk so I didn't blame anyone for the vomiting, the hangover, or the cuts and bruises I got from running into everything while trying to walk. All I did the next morning was call myself an idiot and vow to never get that drunk again and after about 10 or 15 of those vows I finally decided to stop getting that drunk. I have a question for you, how is it that 99% of the people that go to these things manage to not get so drunk and probably belligerent that they are thrown out? I do not feel sorry at all for the 1% that can't control themselves.
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I've been drunk, fallen down, etc. I've never acted like a fool to the point that bar staff needed to intervene. However, if I ever get that wasted (which will never happen), I sure hope that someone would knock some sense into me at that point.
What does spiking someone's drink have to do with this?
You've been "fall down drunk" and "never acted like a fool to the point that bar staff needed to intervene". Good on you. That means that you were inebriated to the point of not being in control. You were lucky that nobody took advantage of you or physically abused you. You weren't there yet you can judge that an incapacitated person deserved to be tossed around like a trash bag? Wow.
A girl who gets her drink spiked is incapacitated. Much like a drunk who can barely stand. If the non-combatative drunk who can barely stand somehow deserves the abuse that gets heaped on him then it stands to reason that the incapacitated girl deserves abuse too. After all, she was too stupid to keep an eye on her drink. Maybe she brought it on herself by dressing "too slutty"? I change my mind, we should blame the victims of violence or abuse. They ALWAYS deserve it.
Tiki bar is screwed from the top down. An owner who can't own a firearm without being a jackass with it and another owner who thinks that women make good punching bags. If that isn't a receipe for a soup sandwich full of abusive a-holes than I can't imagine what is.
The difference is the guy who couldn't stand did it to himself unless you and your friends forcefully made him drink alcohol and in that case you should be the one going to jail.
You also never said where his friends were, why didn't they take him out before the bouncers had to intervene? I am sure they would have handled him like a big fluffy pillow full of puppies since they obviously care so much instead of leaving him for the bouncers who could give two sh!t$ about him.
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Chasey_Lane
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Did I say I was in public? Did I say an incapacitated person deserves to be tossed around?
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JosephIV
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Read my first post. I simply saw a guy who was clearly drunk get slammed into the wall next to the bar then thrown to the pavement. I saw no violence or cursing from the victim. It was uncalled for. Abusing your authority and victimizing the helpless is ALWAYS wrong. The guy may have chosen to drink that much but: A) Who is responsible for serving him that much alcohol? B) Why be a violent d*ck to someone who simply needs a place to sit down and a cab ride home?
A drunk who starts a fight deserves what they get within reason but that was not the case in either incident that I witnessed.
So you didn't see the whole incident or what happened before that? How do you know he didn't spit in the bouncers face?
Chasey_Lane
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This individual could have been intoxicated for quite some time and the bouncers finally had enough. You don't get thrown out of a bar for being drunk. You get thrown out for being a douche.
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JosephIV
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Yes, you said you were fall down drunk but never acted a fool to the point that "bar staff" needed to intervene which implies that you were in the view of the public at that bar. I guess that bar was a super secret bar in mommy's basement? Who judges at which point bar staff needs to intervene? Not a drunk person such as you had been by your own admission. It's up to the bar staff who unfortunately happen to be abusive meatheads some times. It's possible that by the standard of the Tiki staff you needed the treatment that the drunk guy got when you were fall down drunk. You also stated that at the point that you get wasted you "hope someone knocks some sense into you". You are saying that you think someone (yourself) that is wasted and can't fend for themself deserves to get beaten until it "knocks some sense into them"? Simply for being wasted? You have low expectations concerning the actions of bar staff. Maybe you'll get wasted at a bar and have your wish come true but we can hope that isn't the case.
JosephIV
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The Tiki bar owner didn't beat his woman because he's an abusive a-hole. He beat her because she was being a douche.
Chasey_Lane
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No, I didn't. Read my first two sentences.
People drink outside of bars. Yes, shocking, I know.
Chasey_Lane
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That'll teach her.
Club Bluto is very selective about who gets tossed out.
JosephIV
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Sure, that's what you do. Help the guy up on his way out of the bar then get your payback for that slight by slamming him off of hard objects. The drunk didn't get arrested so I can only conclude that the assault that I saw was the only assault that went down which was perpetrated by the Tiki staff. Let's play the game that you and others have played and come to a conclusion about the drunk. Nobody on this forum can say for sure, but the guy was possibly mentally and physically disabled. - Now run your scenarios and see how much abuse he deserved.
If he was asked to leave and he didn't he deserves what he gets no matter what his mental capacity. These bouncers are not psychiatrist, they are not mind readers, and they are not your buddy. They are paid to keep the peace, they have to take a lot of crap from people that can not control themselves or handle their alcohol and they are not there to give everyone a kiss on the forehead if they are not listening to them. They would not have had to put their hands on this guy at all if he had of left when they told him too or did they immediately throw him on the ground without saying a word to him or asking him to leave. I know for a fact that one of the bouncers got stabbed last year and all he did was ask a drunk guy to leave so I can forgive them for being a little aggressive getting some drunks that won't leave when asked out.
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