To the Moron on Webster Field

[itsbob]

OK, two parter here; one, did it ever cross your mind to maybe go around him where he was supposed to be? And is that just a crazy idea to even consider?

My thought is if you've got NO bail on your side of the ride, solid trees, deep ditch, guardrail, etc, a place you just don't wanna go, and you can just 'feel' he doesn't see you, can you, with all your experience, make a reasonable case for an extreme case to go around him the other way?

I mean, he wakes up and suddenly corrects, your dead and it's now your fault but, I am asking if it should ever even be in the back of my mind as an option?

Going left never crossed my mind.

If I were to go left I wouldn't be aiming for his side of the road, but somewhere off the road so if does correct he's still not going to get me. It may have been an option (never even contemplated it at the time) in this case, but going off the road to the right was the most safe, and being that I was leaned over on a left hand sweeper the easiest to thing to do, just had to straighten up and let the bike take me.

Being a dirt rider you should be more successful than most at finding escape routes. Some new and even seasoned riders won't leave the asphalt, it's just ingrained in them that they HAVE to stay on the road. Say it with me.. "Stay between the lines!!"

You see it on the news almost everyday where two cars have collided head on, and you look at the photos and there's nothing but farmer's fields on both sides of the road. They just can't come to grips that off the road my be safer than on the road.

 

[Floyd2004]

When bob said blue, I thought about asking you, all you Neon drivers know each other, right?

You should know, you used to have one
He said "Dark colored.. Blue, black or brown Neon"
Well seeing that they never made a brown one id say the lighter blue or a black one considering they are fairly common.

Bob was he coming or going in relation to the front gate and your building?

 

[itsbob]

You should know, you used to have one
He said "Dark colored.. Blue, black or brown Neon"
Well seeing that they never made a brown one id say the lighter blue or a black one considering they are fairly common.

Bob was he coming or going in relation to the front gate and your building?

I was leaving my builging and about 1/3 of the way around that really long left hand sweeper by the tower heading towards the front gate. I left the road heading for the runway.

Luckily for me I wasn't in a hurry, because I really do like to get my lean on around that turn. I did have a good lean on, and was paying attention to the center line to make sure my head was still on my side of the road when I saw the front of his car on my side of the road.

 

[glhs837]

You should know, you used to have one
He said "Dark colored.. Blue, black or brown Neon"
Well seeing that they never made a brown one id say the lighter blue or a black one considering they are fairly common.

Bob was he coming or going in relation to the front gate and your building?

Of course, I know you Of course, you are the only non turbo Neon owner I know.

 

[Larry Gude]

Going left never crossed my mind.

If I were to go left I wouldn't be aiming for his side of the road, but somewhere off the road so if does correct he's still not going to get me. It may have been an option (never even contemplated it at the time) in this case, but going off the road to the right was the most safe, and being that I was leaned over on a left hand sweeper the easiest to thing to do, just had to straighten up and let the bike take me.

Being a dirt rider you should be more successful than most at finding escape routes. Some new and even seasoned riders won't leave the asphalt, it's just ingrained in them that they HAVE to stay on the road. Say it with me.. "Stay between the lines!!"

You see it on the news almost everyday where two cars have collided head on, and you look at the photos and there's nothing but farmer's fields on both sides of the road. They just can't come to grips that off the road my be safer than on the road.

That's what made me think of crossing in front of him!

I watched a kid I know racing open A one day, left turn, up then down hill, traffic ran him off the track and into a couple of trees about 10 feet off the track, 3 or 4 big ones. He didn't go down, he didn't bail. He left it pinned and went right between two of them, no hesitation. Right back on the track.

Early on, a few times I've bailed on my path to enlightenment. All that did was hurt and bend the bike. Since then, I've just stuck it out and hung on and recovered. If you get off, you're off. If you stay on the bike, you got a chance. The thing that worries me is just how 500-700 pounds rebounds going over hill and dale.

If I hit something, it's probably gonna be front end up and on the gas. I hit a slick spot yesterday AM and the rear got squirrelly. I stayed on the gas and straightened right up. That and no target fixation.

So, you instantly saw a good out and took it? Good stuff.

 

[Floyd2004]

I was leaving my builging and about 1/3 of the way around that really long left hand sweeper by the tower heading towards the front gate. I left the road heading for the runway.

Yup thats the turn that no one can seem to stay in their own lane on. Ive had to put the passenger side tires in the grass before because a truck was halfway in my lane, and when I say truck I mean S-10. Its not even a big truck!

glhs837, I dont even know anyone with a Neon anymore. They either sold them or wrecked them.

 

[gary_webb]

So Bob, I guess you got a little closer to heaven than you would have prefered to be.

 

[bohman]

Yup thats the turn that no one can seem to stay in their own lane on.

I haven't been on Webster field in a couple years, but I know exactly where you're talking about. A curved road is apparently much too complicated for some folks. You always have to look far ahead of you in order to get ready for those people. I got lucky, in that my horn always woke them up before they ran me off the road.

 

[itsbob]

So Bob, I guess you got a little closer to heaven than you would have prefered to be.

This is my heaven.

If it's not yours, you should do something about making your life better.

 

[gary_webb]

This is my heaven.

If it's not yours, you should do something about making your life better.

My heaven will come after my life on this planet is over. If this life is all you have to look forward to, sorry about your luck.

 

[Larry Gude]

My heaven will come after my life on this planet is over. If this life is all you have to look forward to, sorry about your luck.

If your afterlife involves the highs and lows of human relationships, guitars, good beer, the day to day challenges of life, the good and the bad, and the pure joy of riding a motorcycle, I'm jealous. I only get that until I am dead.

 

[gary_webb]

If your afterlife involves the highs and lows of human relationships, guitars, good beer, the day to day challenges of life, the good and the bad, and the pure joy of riding a motorcycle, I'm jealous. I only get that until I am dead.

And then you have nothing. Sorry about your luck.

 

[Larry Gude]

And then you have nothing. Sorry about your luck.

I appreciate your concern.

 

[smilin]

People are getting sloppier about driving everyday.
Personally I think drivers should have to qualify for a motorcycle license as well as auto, certainly would make better drivers - and get rid of those who can't or won't drive properly.
Learned the best way to get out of a tight spot is stay up and pick the fastest way out of trouble. Picked that up riding overseas. It seemed if I thought too long - it was the wrong decision. So I let my instincts and training take over any time I got in a jam.

 

[Larry Gude]

People are getting sloppier about driving everyday.
Personally I think drivers should have to qualify for a motorcycle license BEFORE auto,

Yes!!!!!!!

 

[mAlice]

Smilin' and Larry, are you saying that a person who does not drive a motorcycle should be required to qualify for a motorcycle license?

 

[Larry Gude]

Smilin' and Larry, are you saying that a person who does not drive a motorcycle should be required to qualify for a motorcycle license?

Yes. Everyone but you. And Vrail. :

 

[GWguy]

Yes!!!!!!!

"And he has seen the light..." Wonder what your response would have been, posed that same concept last summer?

 

[Larry Gude]

"And he has seen the light..." Wonder what your response would have been, posed that same concept last summer?

No, you don't. You know what it would have been!


"The only skill bikers need to learn his how to get killed with as little mess as possible..."

 

[GWguy]

Smilin' and Larry, are you saying that a person who does not drive a motorcycle should be required to qualify for a motorcycle license?

Maybe not qualify, but certainly have it included in the classroom training and written tests.