Trump to bow out?

Chopticon64

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You really like high prices on everything keep voting for the dems and why you're at it get you some of those illegal aliens and bring them home and let them live with you
I’ve been over this numerous times.

Trumps stimulus package caused the inflation rocket, he pumped over a trillion dollars into the economy after his disastrous lockdowns in early 2020.

Biden and his team have finally been able to tame the inflation beast.

Trump would pump inflation back to historic levels, he wants negative interest rates!

 

GURPS

INGSOC
PREMO Member

Very Predictable – In Advance of Trump/Biden Debate, Fox News Manufactures Specific Polling​



June 20, 2024 | Sundance | 386 Comments

Most of the time Fox News builds in plausible deniability; however, this time the notorious Fox News pollster Daron Shaw has gone full bananas on behalf of those who pay him to create polling narratives.

Daron Shaw should be well known to CTH readers {Go Deep}. Shaw has been the Fox News poll manipulator and narrative engineer for over a decade. Knowing the Trump v Biden debate was coming, we knew Fox News would arrange some anti-Trumpism media narrative to capitalize on the predictable corporate theme. However, to see the Fox team make “Threats To Democracy” the #1 concern of voters, is just a talking point too far.





Fox News creating/promoting the “Trump is a Danger to Democracy” narrative via polling, is as predictable as Megyn Kelly and her 2015 “Trump is a sexist” debate narrative. Keep in mind, in order to see the strings on the marionettes you first have to stop pretending the performance is real life. Far too many people are comfortable pretending.

FOX NEWS – […] “The underlying demographic tendencies that have defined the race remain in place,” says Republican pollster Daron Shaw, who conducts Fox News surveys with Democrat Chris Anderson. “Biden has improved slightly with women and seniors, which keeps him afloat despite significant reductions from 2020 in support from younger voters and African Americans.” […] The top two issues to voters are the future of American democracy and the economy. Next, stability and normalcy, followed by immigration and health care. Nearly half say abortion and guns will be extremely important to their vote, while closer to one-third feel that way about standing up to elite interests, climate change, and the Israel-Hamas war. (read more)
 

SamSpade

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Fox News creating/promoting the “Trump is a Danger to Democracy”
To be fair - I don't know how the question was worded, but it doesn't say that TRUMP is a danger to democracy, although that's been the left's mantra now (because they honest to God don't have anything else).

But in my mind, there's zero question that Biden and whatever the puppetmaster with his hand up Biden's ass is the far bigger threat to democracy.

If they pull a massive cheat and re-instate the cadaver - it might be the end of voting for us all. Elections won't matter any more.
 

SamSpade

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Year over year inflation ---

YearJanFebMarAprMayJunJulAugSepOctNovDecAvg.
20243.093.153.483.363.273.27
20236.416.044.984.934.052.973.183.673.703.243.143.354.14
20227.487.878.548.268.589.068.528.268.207.757.116.458.01
20211.401.682.624.164.995.395.375.255.396.226.817.044.69
20202.492.331.540.330.120.650.991.311.371.181.171.361.24
20191.551.521.862.001.791.651.811.751.711.762.052.291.81
20182.072.212.362.462.802.872.952.702.282.522.181.912.44
20172.502.742.382.201.871.631.731.942.232.042.202.112.13
20161.371.020.851.131.021.000.831.061.461.641.692.071.26
2015-0.09-0.03-0.07-0.20-0.040.120.170.20-0.040.170.500.730.12

I'd say - Joe really hasn't had a great record for inflation.
And I think it's safe to say, he still hasn't beaten it, when it hasn't gotten below 3% in over three years.
Even WITH some half-assed "Inflation Reduction Act".
 

Chopticon64

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Year over year inflation ---

YearJanFebMarAprMayJunJulAugSepOctNovDecAvg.
20243.093.153.483.363.273.27
20236.416.044.984.934.052.973.183.673.703.243.143.354.14
20227.487.878.548.268.589.068.528.268.207.757.116.458.01
20211.401.682.624.164.995.395.375.255.396.226.817.044.69
20202.492.331.540.330.120.650.991.311.371.181.171.361.24
20191.551.521.862.001.791.651.811.751.711.762.052.291.81
20182.072.212.362.462.802.872.952.702.282.522.181.912.44
20172.502.742.382.201.871.631.731.942.232.042.202.112.13
20161.371.020.851.131.021.000.831.061.461.641.692.071.26
2015-0.09-0.03-0.07-0.20-0.040.120.170.20-0.040.170.500.730.12

I'd say - Joe really hasn't had a great record for inflation.
And I think it's safe to say, he still hasn't beaten it, when it hasn't gotten below 3% in over three years.
Even WITH some half-assed "Inflation Reduction Act".
Good lord, you understand how the money supply works right? There is about an 18 month lag from when the money in pumped into the system to when there is a response, that’s why we are just now seeing inflation levels collapse from 9.06 to 3.27, if you don’t think a 67% reduction in inflation since Joe has been in office isn’t “getting a handle of it” you’re out to lunch.

And look at those gangbuster numbers by Obama! negative for months and months, Trump couldn’t even do that with his plandemic!
 

Chopticon64

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Very Predictable – In Advance of Trump/Biden Debate, Fox News Manufactures Specific Polling


June 20, 2024 | Sundance | 386 Comments

Most of the time Fox News builds in plausible deniability; however, this time the notorious Fox News pollster Daron Shaw has gone full bananas on behalf of those who pay him to create polling narratives.

Daron Shaw should be well known to CTH readers {Go Deep}. Shaw has been the Fox News poll manipulator and narrative engineer for over a decade. Knowing the Trump v Biden debate was coming, we knew Fox News would arrange some anti-Trumpism media narrative to capitalize on the predictable corporate theme. However, to see the Fox team make “Threats To Democracy” the #1 concern of voters, is just a talking point too far.





Fox News creating/promoting the “Trump is a Danger to Democracy” narrative via polling, is as predictable as Megyn Kelly and her 2015 “Trump is a sexist” debate narrative. Keep in mind, in order to see the strings on the marionettes you first have to stop pretending the performance is real life. Far too many people are comfortable pretending.

FOX NEWS – […] “The underlying demographic tendencies that have defined the race remain in place,” says Republican pollster Daron Shaw, who conducts Fox News surveys with Democrat Chris Anderson. “Biden has improved slightly with women and seniors, which keeps him afloat despite significant reductions from 2020 in support from younger voters and African Americans.” […] The top two issues to voters are the future of American democracy and the economy. Next, stability and normalcy, followed by immigration and health care. Nearly half say abortion and guns will be extremely important to their vote, while closer to one-third feel that way about standing up to elite interests, climate change, and the Israel-Hamas war. (read more)
Cope harder

He is a threat to democracy
 

BOP

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Good lord, you understand how the money supply works right? There is about an 18 month lag from when the money in pumped into the system to when there is a response, that’s why we are just now seeing inflation levels collapse from 9.06 to 3.27, if you don’t think a 67% reduction in inflation since Joe has been in office isn’t “getting a handle of it” you’re out to lunch.

And look at those gangbuster numbers by Obama! negative for months and months, Trump couldn’t even do that with his plandemic!
Listening in dumbass.jpg
 

Ken King

A little rusty but not crusty
PREMO Member
Hur was Trump appointed and Biden kept him on in good faith. He showed he was a complete loyalist to Trump and gave a very unflattering recording and transcript which was heavily edited.

Where have you listened to this "unflattering recording" considering Garland has refused to release it?
Are you kidding me? Trump whipped this county in a tizzy every time he tweeted.

Remember how good of a tweeter he was? It’s partly why he won 8 years ago, but he doesn’t tweet anymore, he isn’t who he was.
Did he, or did he just get all the snowflakes screaming that they are melting? BTW my only exposure to Twitter/X is here or when someones post shows up in my Facebook feed.
Joe isn’t Hillary, she was so competent she seemed evil according to your standards. Joe is a good man who cares, he’s had a lot of heartache and is now running a country with record unemployment, record high stock market, grocery stores fully stocked, no American soldiers being killed, these are good days.
I guess those 13 killed during the botched withdrawal from Afghanistan don't count. How about the three killed in Jordan?
Hate him all you want, but you had a good day today and Joe Biden provided that.
Don't hate him, never met him, but I doubt I would ever want to spend any time with him, kind of like how I feel about you. Something about serial liars bothers me. And Biden didn't provide anything for me with regard to my day.
4 years ago you had to wear a mask to look for toilet paper.
4 years ago you weren't here (at least under this userID) and life was good. Never had a problem finding toilet paper and it was the state that forced the masking until Biden's EO forcing it.
 
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22AcaciaAve

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I’ve been over this numerous times.

Trumps stimulus package caused the inflation rocket, he pumped over a trillion dollars into the economy after his disastrous lockdowns in early 2020.

Biden and his team have finally been able to tame the inflation beast.

Trump would pump inflation back to historic levels, he wants negative interest rates!


If Trump's stimulus package was responsible for inflation, then wasn't Biden's American Rescue Plan stimulus package just as responsible? That was a 1.9 trillion dollar package. And Trump's second stimulus was actually pushed by the democratic congress just weeks before Trump was out of office. He initially refused to sign it, wanting congress to cut foreign aid from the package. He finally relented and signed averting a government shutdown as he was leaving office.

So if the stimulus packages are responsible for inflation, both parties are responsible.

But quite honestly that is moving the goal posts. Fair or not, for as long as I can remember the president in office owns the economy. Economists cited a lot of reasons for the housing bubble bust that caused the crash at the end of Bush's term. Most of them date back to Clinton era policies. But who took the blame for the economy dropping? Bush. Clinton got the credit for the economy of the 90's, even though he had absolutely nothing to do with the internet takeoff that fueled it. That's just the way it goes. When you are in office, you own the economy good or bad.
 
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