Tulsi Gabbard leaves Democratic Party, denounces it as 'elitist cabal'

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Don't Hold Your Breath Waiting for Tulsi Gabbard to Join the GOP​




Gabbard often says things that can make one think, “How in the heck is this woman not a Republican?” Add to that the fact that she’s occasionally seen on the Fox News Channel and it might seem like she’s teasing a complete transition to the Grand Old Party. In fact, there was no shortage of exuberant speculation about that among the conservative social media crowd.

I even saw some people suggesting that she would be a good running mate for Donald Trump in 2024.

Let’s pump the brakes here a little.

Just because Gabbard rightly thinks that the Dems have lost it doesn’t mean she’s looking at the Republican party as her new home. If you have been paying any attention to her at all the past two years, you get the vibe that Gabbard really isn’t looking for a pack to run with. Ryan’s post quotes Newt Gingrich as calling her “an independent maverick.”

Her greatest value is probably remaining independent and showing the way to regular American Democrats who don’t believe that kindergartens should be hosting drag queen story hours. They may not jump ship to the GOP, but they just might reconsider reflexively voting for Democrats who are trying to drag them off of the progressive cliff.

For now, let us all just enjoy the spectacle of watching the Democrats melt down over Gabbard’s scathing indictment of what they’ve become.

And maybe have fun throwing her words back at them every once in a while.
 
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Kyle said:
I have no political crush on Tulsi, just enjoy when the Democrats canabalistic infighting escalates and they eat their own.


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Not only is it amusing, it tells you who the players are. GOP as well.

I frankly admit that all some Repuke has to do to make me hate them is spew Trump-hate. Trump was probably the greatest President with a capital P we've ever had in this country. So when one of them starts mewling about Russian collusion or pussy grabbing or meatloaf or RACIST® I immediately know whether they're on the side of America or their own self-interest.

Anyway, let us not forget that Tulsi Gabbard did in fact endorse Joe Biden in 2020. She didn't have to endorse Trump, she could have remained neutral, but she endorsed and campaigned for Biden. That tells me all I need to know about her.

“I know Vice President Biden and his wife and am grateful to have called his son Beau, who also served in the National Guard, a friend,” Gabbard said in a statement. “Although I may not agree with the Vice President on every issue, I know that he has a good heart and is motivated by his love for our country and the American people.”

Clearly she didn't know him at all or she'd have known he is a corrupt grifter with advancing dementia. She'd have known he's dumber than cat chit and his son is a national security risk. Or she did know him and she's an America-hating POS. Either way she's a liar and it pains me to see people fall for her empty words.
 
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Not only Biden..Bernie Sanders. She's a Communist.

We have to be so careful. Haven't we learned anything...
 
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And I'm surprised it took her so long.

Tulsi is not only a Left liberal, she is a shameless self-promoter. I know you all like her, but she is just shy of Nikki Haley in my loathing hierarchy. I am not forgetting that she took to Twitter to call Donald Trump a fascist over his Independence Day extravaganza, and hysterically proclaimed he'd have tanks rolling down the Mall as a show of his power. That is some psycho prog bullshit right there, and I note she didn't have the good grace to admit it when her wild accusations didn't happen.

The enemy of my enemy is not my friend. She is still my enemy.
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I just liked what she said. Don't really have a feeling one way or the other for her. She just was able to perfectly sum up exactly what I would say as to why the Democrat Party SUCKS.
 
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LJ1999 said:
I just liked what she said. Don't really have a feeling one way or the other for her. She just was able to perfectly sum up exactly what I would say as to why the Democrat Party SUCKS.
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I like what she said, I just wish she meant it. Tucker said something along the lines of he wants every Republican who comes on his show to read her statement out loud on the air, and they can do that but they won't be sincere either.
 
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LJ1999 said:
I just liked what she said. Don't really have a feeling one way or the other for her. She just was able to perfectly sum up exactly what I would say as to why the Democrat Party SUCKS.
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And see - that's what I saw - she covered all the bases and she sure didn't sound like she was bloviating some overheard conservative talking points. In fact, she nailed some of them perfectly.

I've seen lots of people - slowly - convert from one political point of view to another. The entire WalkAway movement two years ago was just that - people who finally realized, the Democratic Party has long left the political middle and has ceased caring at all about the ideals it has so long trumpeted in the village squares. Actually I think one of the most amusing is Leo Terrell on Hannity - I remember him from before.

But we've seen big turns in political history. I think many of us think Reagan was a great Republican president - but he used to be a Democrat. BOTH Trump and Pence - used to be Democrats. Libby Dole - Condi Rice - Rudy Giuliani - all former Democrats. Ben Nighthorse Campbell, Susannah Martinez, Norm Coleman - left the Democratic Party to become Republicans.

This isn't saying Tulsi has "converted". I have no idea if she's blowing smoke up our asses. I'm still skeptical. When I reach that point, I make my judgments on what they DO. So until she SHOWS to me she is changed, I will believe it. Lots of people can talk a good game.

Which brings me to Trump - I do know a lot of people who voted for Trump - twice - but aren't crazy about him. My wife voted for him, and thought he did a good job - but she would have voted for a different Republican and would have preferred to. My mom was about as Republican as you can ever guess - and she had misgivings about him. And I've had my own misgivings - he's not charismatic - he's not eloquent - he thinks he's a lot smarter than he is - he brags a lot, and often his bragging is either not accurate or careful distortions of the truth.

But the best comparison I can think of is, he's the football team coach who cursed, swore and insulted his players, screamed at them from the sidelines, bellowed at the refs - and won games. Fairly. He's the kind of coach who wouldn't refrain from cutting his star quarterback if he got out of line. But he wins games. He'd tell overweight players to cut the pizza and soda and lose the weight or be cut. He wouldn't coddle anyone.

He's the star surgeon who tells you point blank you're going to die.

You know what I liked about him? Part of it was his bluntness. EVERYONE KNOWS our European allies, heck all of them, are content to NOT SPEND on defense and splurge their national budgets on all kinds of goodies, knowing the Americans will do it FOR them. He told them to piss off and do their agreed upon fair share. He was blunt about - nation-building. When he said he was going to move the Israeli embassy to Jerusalem - he did it. Not like his five predecessors who all SAID they'd do it, but never did.

He valued and rewarded loyalty. Maybe that's weird in your world, but in Washington, it's a stinking swamp where everyone is out for themselves, and people will betray you for the price of a lunch. He wouldn't tolerate it. He didn't suffer fools gladly.

I wish he'd finished the wall.
 
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SamSpade said:
And see - that's what I saw - she covered all the bases and she sure didn't sound like she was bloviating some overheard conservative talking points. In fact, she nailed some of them perfectly.

I've seen lots of people - slowly - convert from one political point of view to another. The entire WalkAway movement two years ago was just that - people who finally realized, the Democratic Party has long left the political middle and has ceased caring at all about the ideals it has so long trumpeted in the village squares. Actually I think one of the most amusing is Leo Terrell on Hannity - I remember him from before.

But we've seen big turns in political history. I think many of us think Reagan was a great Republican president - but he used to be a Democrat. BOTH Trump and Dole - used to be Democrats. Libby Dole - Condi Rice - Rudy Giuliani - all former Democrats. Ben Nighthorse Campbell, Susannah Martinez, Norm Coleman - left the Democratic Party to become Republicans.

This isn't saying Tulsi has "converted". I have no idea if she's blowing smoke up our asses. I'm still skeptical. When I reach that point, I make my judgments on what they DO. So until she SHOWS to me she is changed, I will believe it. Lots of people can talk a good game.

Which brings me to Trump - I do know a lot of people who voted for Trump - twice - but aren't crazy about him. My wife voted for him, and thought he did a good job - but she would have voted for a different Republican and would have preferred to. My mom was about as Republican as you can ever guess - and she had misgivings about him. And I've had my own misgivings - he's not charismatic - he's not eloquent - he thinks he's a lot smarter than he is - he brags a lot, and often his bragging is either not accurate or careful distortions of the truth.

But the best comparison I can think of is, he's the football team coach who cursed, swore and insulted his players, screamed at them from the sidelines, bellowed at the refs - and won games. Fairly. He's the kind of coach who wouldn't refrain from cutting his star quarterback if he got out of line. But he wins games. He'd tell overweight players to cut the pizza and soda and lose the weight or be cut. He wouldn't coddle anyone.

He's the star surgeon who tells you point blank you're going to die.

You know what I liked about him? Part of it was his bluntness. EVERYONE KNOWS our European allies, heck all of them, are content to NOT SPEND on defense and splurge their national budgets on all kinds of goodies, knowing the Americans will do it FOR them. He told them to piss off and do their agreed upon fair share. He was blunt about - nation-building. When he said he was going to move the Israeli embassy to Jerusalem - he did it. Not like his five predecessors who all SAID they'd do it, but never did.

He valued and rewarded loyalty. Maybe that's weird in your world, but in Washington, it's a stinking swamp where everyone is out for themselves, and people will betray you for the price of a lunch. He wouldn't tolerate it. He didn't suffer fools gladly.

I wish he'd finished the wall.
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Well put SamSpade, as always
 
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vraiblonde said:
I like what she said, I just wish she meant it.
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Did you read what she wrote? What is on video is less than a tenth of what she wrote.

You know that I'm skeptical and my most common refrain is "I'm a wait and see". I will trust her beliefs when I see it in action.
I know a lot of people who "mean it" but their actions say otherwise. I've heard a million promises from people who plan to pay me back or intend to lose weight or want to move or change jobs or - well it's endless. I believe it when it happens.

And it may be that her entire future is nowhere. Gingrich's life is outside politics now, outside of appearing on TV and writing books. My gut says, that's her, and might not be anything else.
 
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Tulsi Gabbard Quits Democrat Party and Slams Dems as “Elitist Cabal of Warmongers.”


But Gabbard took aim at another issue, her party’s reliance on what was once an extremely illiberal behavior used exclusively by the McCarthyists of the post-war right, with their blacklists and compulsory loyalty oaths. These new jacobin Democrats became addicted to cancel culture the way the old French revolutionaries became addicted to Madame Guillotine. Rather than rely on the weight of the plunging blade, they silenced their enemies through cancel culture. And they’re still busy, cancelling using their many allies in media to lop the heads.

Gabbard released a statement on a video at Twitter, and further elaborated in a post on her Substack page and podcast

“I can no longer remain in today’s Democratic Party that is under the complete control of an elitist cabal of warmongers who are driven by cowardly wokeness who divide us by racializing every issue and stoking anti-white racism, who actively work to undermine our God-given freedoms enshrined in our Constitution, are hostile to people of faith and spirituality, who demonize the police but protect criminals at the expense of law-abiding Americans, who believe in open borders, weaponize the national security state to go after political opponents, and above all, are dragging us ever closer to nuclear war,” said the former U.S. Rep. from Hawaii and the candidate who was once gushed over by the media.

Is she wrong in anything she’s said? No. Particularly the part about America being dragged ever closer to nuclear war. Just tell me where she’s wrong. She’s not wrong. And that’s what drives the Democrats mad,

National Democrats are driven by the cowardly woke who play the race card diving the nation at every turn. If you pay attention to the news, if you’re sober and literate, then you know this.
 
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GURPS said:
“I can no longer remain in today’s Democratic Party that is under the complete control of an elitist cabal of warmongers who are driven by cowardly wokeness who divide us by racializing every issue and stoking anti-white racism, who actively work to undermine our God-given freedoms enshrined in our Constitution, are hostile to people of faith and spirituality, who demonize the police but protect criminals at the expense of law-abiding Americans, who believe in open borders, weaponize the national security state to go after political opponents, and above all, are dragging us ever closer to nuclear war,” said the former U.S. Rep. from Hawaii and the candidate who was once gushed over by the media.
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The Democrat Party has been that way openly for more than two decades. Apparently she was baked on the pakalolo during the Trump years...and the Obama years....and the Clinton years....

Now - now - she has all of a sudden decided those things are bad, m'kay? But when she was their rising star and darling she was right on board with them.

And we can't forget that she campaigned for not only Joe Biden and Bernie Sanders, but that loathsome tool Keith Ellison as well. She definitely loves her some pro-criminal Commies.

That said, I do admire her courage. The way she clapped back at Hillary (aka the "personification of rot") and took on Carmela Blowjob in the debate - I admire that. Of course for all I know it was planned and scripted, but it was pretty sweet nonetheless.
 
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vraiblonde said:
she campaigned for not only Joe Biden
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This and NO Apology now that she has left the Party, no I was wrong Biden is a Senile Old Man ... I just ignored the signs for the Party

Frankly I am not impressed, she is Anti 2A and I forgot the other major plank
 
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Kyle said:
That sticks a fork in her, and every other democrat, as far as I'm concerned.
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Basically me as well .. but there was one other point I read in the last 48 hrs


Supported Assad in Syria, but complains about Trump and SA


Gun control[edit]​

Gabbard has an F-rating from the NRA, a 0% rating by the Hawaii Rifle Association and a 100% rating by the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence.[218]

Gabbard supports a common rifle weapons ban, and universal background checks on top of the checks people have to take to get their permits to begin with.[219]

The New York Times has quoted Gabbard as saying, "In an ideal world, we would listen to people instead of political action committees and the gun lobby and the N.R.A."[220]

Environment[edit]​

Gabbard received the Sierra Club Hawaii Chapter's endorsement in the 2012 Democratic primary election for Congress[208] and in her 2014 reelection campaign.[209]

In December 2016, Gabbard, along with approximately 2,000 U.S. military veterans dubbed "The Veterans Stand for Standing Rock," traveled to North Dakota to join the protests against the construction of the final leg of the Dakota Access Pipeline near the Standing Rock and Cheyenne River Indian Reservations.[210][211]

In September 2017, Gabbard introduced the Off Fossil Fuels for a Better Future Act ("OFF Act")[212] as legislation seeking to transition the United States to clean renewable energy. The bill would require electric utilities to transition to 80% renewable energy resources by 2027 and 100% renewable by 2035, while setting similar vehicle emission standards goals and banning hydraulic fracturing.[130]

In November 2018, Gabbard spoke in favor of a Green New Deal, which was at the time a draft resolution to task a special House committee with coming up with legislation to eliminate fossil fuel use from the economy within a decade. In February 2019, she expressed concerns about the vagueness of the version of the Green New Deal proposed by Representative Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez and Senator Ed Markey, saying "I do not support 'leaving the door open' to nuclear power unless and until there is a permanent solution to the problem of nuclear waste,"[213] and so did not co-sponsor the legislation.[214]

Gabbard successfully passed an amendment to the 2019 National Defense Authorization Act that would require the Department of Energy to reexamine the safety of the Runit Dome, a leaking Cold War era nuclear waste site in the Marshall Islands.[215] In July 2020, she called for "fresh eyes" to ensure a more independent assessment of the waste site's safety.[215]


Impeachment of Donald Trump[edit]​

Gabbard voted "present" when the House of Representatives voted to impeach President Trump in December 2019, saying, "I could not in good conscience vote against impeachment because I believe President Trump is guilty of wrongdoing. I could not in good conscience vote for impeachment because removal of a sitting president must not be the culmination of a partisan process, fueled by tribal animosities that have so gravely divided our country."[349]



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