U.N. plans global gun ban

[Bruzilla]

Hasn't the UN been having this annual summit since back in the 90s? Let them call for it all they want. The reality is we are allowed to have guns and nothing they do or say can change that.

There was a time when I used to think that way Ken. Then came the selective fire weapons ban in 1985, the Assault Weapons Ban in 1994, numerous local bans throughout the US in the 1990s, and a few national bans in foreign countries. I'm sure the the folks in Canada or Australia never thought that their guns would ever be taken either, but it just takes the right combination of events and aholes to deprive you of them.

Since the Republicans are doing everything the can to return the Democrats to power at the moment I think that some caution here is warranted.

 

[Bruzilla]

I think nothing needs to be done, not only would a treaty have to get passed by Congress but the 2nd Amendment would have to be overturned by a Constitutional Amendment resulting in specific state legislative action. Do you really see that happening?

You don't need to overturn the 2nd Ammendment. All you need to do is to get the Supreme Court to decide that it doesn't apply to individual citizens.

 

[Toxick]

They'd be like those wimpy cops in "Demolition Man", who tell Wesley Snipes to drop his weapon - or ELSE. But they had no intent of actually using force, and Snipes' character KNOWS this, and ignores them, predictably.

Awesome comparison!


"We're police officers! We're not equipped to handle this kind of violence!"

 

[Vince]

There was a time when I used to think that way Ken. Then came the selective fire weapons ban in 1985, the Assault Weapons Ban in 1994, numerous local bans throughout the US in the 1990s, and a few national bans in foreign countries. I'm sure the the folks in Canada or Australia never thought that their guns would ever be taken either, but it just takes the right combination of events and aholes to deprive you of them.

Since the Republicans are doing everything the can to return the Democrats to power at the moment I think that some caution here is warranted.

Don't take this too lightly. They've been taking our freedoms away little by little. A small change to the gun laws in this state or that and there goes another gun I won't be able to buy or keep. When, and I didn't say if, when they come to take my guns away, they're going to have a problem.

 

[SamSpade]

That scene comes to mind every time I hear about the UN passing some toothless resolution.

"Maniac has responded with a scornful remark!"

A similar one that comes to mind is from Team America, World Police - where Hanz Blix tells Kim Jong Il to refrain from his nuclear ambitions - or - or - he will be *very* very very angry. And he'll write - a letter. Yeah.

Hysterical. Barbaric as it may sound to a liberal's ears, the foundation of all authority is force, or the threat of force.

 

[ylexot]

A similar one that comes to mind is from Team America, World Police - where Hanz Blix tells Kim Jong Il to refrain from his nuclear ambitions - or - or - he will be *very* very very angry. And he'll write - a letter. Yeah.

Hysterical. Barbaric as it may sound to a liberal's ears, the foundation of all authority is force, or the threat of force.

"HANS BRIX!"
"You're bustin' my balls Hans."

 

[2ndAmendment]

I think nothing needs to be done, not only would a treaty have to get passed by Congress but the 2nd Amendment would have to be overturned by a Constitutional Amendment resulting in specific state legislative action. Do you really see that happening?

Does not mean that some foreign visitor getting involved in an incident with a private gun owner exercising their legal rights upheld by U.S. law going to the World Court and filing charges against the U.S. citizen. Now, even though the U.S. citizen is innocent of all charges under U.S. federal and state law, the World Court could rule otherwise and can try a person in absentia. Now the citizen cannot leave the U.S. for fear of being arrested by the enforcement arm of the World Court. And in the World Court, a person is presumed guilty and must prove innocence. There have been undertones that the World Court might even kidnap citizens of countries that refused extradition to the World Court for proceedings.

Of course the foregoing is all hypothetical, but is it worth the chance?

 

[Ken King]

Does not mean that some foreign visitor getting involved in an incident with a private gun owner exercising their legal rights upheld by U.S. law going to the World Court and filing charges against the U.S. citizen. Now, even though the U.S. citizen is innocent of all charges under U.S. federal and state law, the World Court could rule otherwise and can try a person in absentia. Now the citizen cannot leave the U.S. for fear of being arrested by the enforcement arm of the World Court. And in the World Court, a person is presumed guilty and must prove innocence. There have been undertones that the World Court might even kidnap citizens of countries that refused extradition to the World Court for proceedings.

Of course the foregoing is all hypothetical, but is it worth the chance?

Talk about a walk down a slippery slope, what does any of your scenario have to do with the Constitutional right to own arms here in the USA and the process to remove that right?

 

[2ndAmendment]

Talk about a walk down a slippery slope, what does any of your scenario have to do with the Constitutional right to own arms here in the USA and the process to remove that right?

Never mind. You don't get it or are just being your cantankerous self. Either way, I'll write my letters. I'd rather do that than get into a fire fight with guys in blue helmets, but if it comes to that, I'm ready.

 

[Ken King]

Never mind. You don't get it or are just being your cantankerous self. Either way, I'll write my letters. I'd rather do that than get into a fire fight with guys in blue helmets, but if it comes to that, I'm ready.

I get that the UN has been holding this summit for years with no impact upon our society and to fear a highly unlikely result is a waste of effort and time. If that make me cantankerous so be it, but you know what, the sky isn't falling.

 

[dustin]

So will I be arrested for sending the 3 nasty grams? Is it worth the money in 3 stamps?

 

[2ndAmendment]

So will I be arrested for sending the 3 nasty grams? Is it worth the money in 3 stamps?

If you are, I will be, too.