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Queenofdenile1

Love is Blind
kris31280 said:
Hell, dog those chicks... I don't have an issue with it.

Sure, it's complicated... for some. For me, it's real simple... don't try to control me and I won't try to control you. If you want a night out with the boys... go to. If I want a night out with the girls, I don't wanna hear pissin' and moanin' about it.
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Okay, I agree, however, when you're in a relationship and especially ones that have some years behind them, men shouldn't be hanging with their friends at night having "a guys night out" past the age of 30. They can play golf, workout, whatever, but hanging with guys at a bar shouldn't be happening without you there. Therefore, if the guy shouldn't be doing it, the woman shouldn't be either. Go shopping, see a movie, have lunch with girlfriend but again, hanging at a bar having a "girls night out" shouldn't be happening either past the age of 30.

That whole "trust" or "insecurity" thing is a load of crap!!! Whenever anyone say's something like "my wife doesn't trust me because my female co-worker, (but were just friends) keeps calling my cell phone" or "my husband is insecure and doesn't like the fact that I wear booty shorts to company picnic and in front of his co-workers and friends", I throw the BS flag because it's nothing more than an excuse to get KUDO's for doing what they want. The bottom line is generally when people have trust or insecurity issues, there is generally a good reason for it and more times than not, they can thank the person they are involved with at the time.
 
Dougstermd

Dougstermd

ORGASM DONOR
onebdzee said:
Nope....no joke....it was going to cost me $97 for the tags for the bike(which I paid) and $60 for the change of address on my license....when anyone else with just a regular license can just go online and fill out a simple form and have a peice of paper sent to them with the new address on it






I really don't understand it at all....the federal and state government in their great wisdom deceided to change everything around so that if you drive a freaking truck(which if their weren't trucks they would have all the crap they have) they make you pay out the nose to keep that freaking license

DOT physical....$90(not including urinalisys)
License....$120(not including endorsements)
Endorsements....$20 per(not including hazmat)
Hazmat endorsement....$20 plus the $160 for the back ground check with finger printing
Change of address....$20 and $10 for each additional endorsement(which the "M" is an endorsement)

ok....I'm done now....carry on
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well if I am not driving right now do I have to change the address now???
 
Chain729

Chain729

CageKicker Extraordinaire
Queenofdenile1 said:
Okay, I agree, however, when you're in a relationship and especially ones that have some years behind them, men shouldn't be hanging with their friends at night having "a guys night out" past the age of 30. They can play golf, workout, whatever, but hanging with guys at a bar shouldn't be happening without you there. Therefore, if the guy shouldn't be doing it, the woman shouldn't be either. Go shopping, see a movie, have lunch with girlfriend but again, hanging at a bar having a "girls night out" shouldn't be happening either past the age of 30.
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So, mystically, at the ripe old age of 30, you cease to need to get out of the house, have fun and forget about life's difficulties for a bit? I can't think one person, who's colon can't turn coal into a diamond, that would agree with that.

Queenofdenile1 said:
That whole "trust" or "insecurity" thing is a load of crap!!! Whenever anyone say's something like "my wife doesn't trust me because my female co-worker, (but were just friends) keeps calling my cell phone" or "my husband is insecure and doesn't like the fact that I wear booty shorts to company picnic and in front of his co-workers and friends", I throw the BS flag because it's nothing more than an excuse to get KUDO's for doing what they want. The bottom line is generally when people have trust or insecurity issues, there is generally a good reason for it and more times than not, they can thank the person they are involved with at the time.
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No, it's not. 1. If you really trust them, you wouldn't have a problem with it. 2. It's not fighting over wanting to attract someone else. It's fighting over control. Telling someone what they can and can't wear is a control issue.
 
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kris31280

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Queenofdenile1 said:
Okay, I agree, however, when you're in a relationship and especially ones that have some years behind them, men shouldn't be hanging with their friends at night having "a guys night out" past the age of 30. They can play golf, workout, whatever, but hanging with guys at a bar shouldn't be happening without you there. Therefore, if the guy shouldn't be doing it, the woman shouldn't be either. Go shopping, see a movie, have lunch with girlfriend but again, hanging at a bar having a "girls night out" shouldn't be happening either past the age of 30.

That whole "trust" or "insecurity" thing is a load of crap!!! Whenever anyone say's something like "my wife doesn't trust me because my female co-worker, (but were just friends) keeps calling my cell phone" or "my husband is insecure and doesn't like the fact that I wear booty shorts to company picnic and in front of his co-workers and friends", I throw the BS flag because it's nothing more than an excuse to get KUDO's for doing what they want. The bottom line is generally when people have trust or insecurity issues, there is generally a good reason for it and more times than not, they can thank the person they are involved with at the time.
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Ok... two issues with that whole statement you just made there:
#1 - Who the hell said life stops at 30? Hell, I think the closer to 30 you get the more life BEGINS because you finally have a sense of who you are, where you're going, and how you're going to get there! So if a bunch of guys want to go to the bar for a "boys night out" then let them go! Same with the women! If either party in a relationship is THAT insecure with the relationship to forbid mass socialization in a bar atmosphere, then maybe the quality of the relationship needs to be looked at.

#2 - Spoken like a truely bitter and jaded person. Not all trust issues are warranted, and most of them are leftover BAGGAGE from previous relationships. For example, a guy who has been cheated on in the past will probably be worried his current girl will cheat on him. The same can be said in reverse. All trust issues and insecurity amount to one thing: baggage. The key is to find someone who's got baggage that goes with yours... compatible baggage if you will.

If ANYONE I was dating tried to enforce your rules as laid out above... I'd kick them to the curb so fast their head would spin.
 
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Lugnut

Lugnut

I'm Rick James #####!
Queenofdenile1 said:
Okay, I agree, however, when you're in a relationship and especially ones that have some years behind them, men shouldn't be hanging with their friends at night having "a guys night out" past the age of 30. They can play golf, workout, whatever, but hanging with guys at a bar shouldn't be happening without you there.
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What?! :lol:


So, how's that working for ya? :popcorn:
 
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Queenofdenile1

Love is Blind
Chain729 said:
So, mystically, at the ripe old age of 30, you cease to need to get out of the house, have fun and forget about life's difficulties for a bit? I can't think one person, who's colon can't turn coal into a diamond, that would agree with that.



No, it's not. 1. If you really trust them, you wouldn't have a problem with it. 2. It's not fighting over wanting to attract someone else. It's fighting over control. Telling someone what they can and can't wear is a control issue.
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I threw out a number and 30 was it. I didn't say you couldn't go out and have fun, but shouldn't you be having fun with the person you are living with or married to? If you need to go out like that, to a bar to have fun with a bunch of guys or girls, without your partner, then you don't need to be with someone. It tells me that you prefer being single and not really looking for a serious relationship and it's time to move on elsewhere!!

I can see it from both sides. Your right, but it could also be that the person who is wearing "whatever" needs attention or more attention. If my husband said "You know DENILE, those shorts are just a little short...whos attention are you trying to get"? It could be viewed as "Controlling" or "Disrespectful". It's disrespectful if you have a great husband or wife who is damn good to you and treats you with respect. It's "controlling" when they have their own issues and do whatever the he$$ they want but you can't.
 
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Queenofdenile1

Love is Blind
Lugnut said:
What?! :lol:


So, how's that working for ya? :popcorn:
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Actually, it's okay because you know why? I don't have jerks in my life anymore. See, cause here's the thing...I used date a bunch of A$$holes and they all pretty much did what they wanted to do. I trusted them, FOOL THAT I WAS...and they went to bars, and they did what most guys do and expected me to stay home and be the little "wifey". As long as I cooked and cleaned and was there to heal their wounds and listen their crap, I was great but "don't ask me to take you out or be there for you or expect me to stay at home because that ain't happening". After I heard all the lies and stopped believing in men, I'm much happier now!!! It works out quite well!! I miss a relationship, but I don't miss the garbage and I'd ten times rather be alone then to be in garbage!!!
 
lips_sealed

lips_sealed

i love a man's forearms
I honestly dont know where some of you women are hanging out to meet all these POS men. Dont get me wrong, there are alot of pigs out there, but there are also alot of crappy women. I think its a fact Men like Women.....and we like them back.

Now maybe its my age, but more than likely men over 35 are not playing "lets screw whoever we can". I dont think its a gender thing. Its more a character issue.
 
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Queenofdenile1

Love is Blind
kris31280 said:
Ok... two issues with that whole statement you just made there:
#1 - Who the hell said life stops at 30? Hell, I think the closer to 30 you get the more life BEGINS because you finally have a sense of who you are, where you're going, and how you're going to get there! So if a bunch of guys want to go to the bar for a "boys night out" then let them go! Same with the women! If either party in a relationship is THAT insecure with the relationship to forbid mass socialization in a bar atmosphere, then maybe the quality of the relationship needs to be looked at.

#2 - Spoken like a truely bitter and jaded person. Not all trust issues are warranted, and most of them are leftover BAGGAGE from previous relationships. For example, a guy who has been cheated on in the past will probably be worried his current girl will cheat on him. The same can be said in reverse. All trust issues and insecurity amount to one thing: baggage. The key is to find someone who's got baggage that goes with yours... compatible baggage if you will.

If ANYONE I was dating tried to enforce your rules as laid out above... I'd kick them to the curb so fast their head would spin.
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Whats the matter Kris, did I hit a nerve?. So defensive in striking back at me. And so what if I've been jaded? I know it, I accept it. I don't have a problem with it. It is what it is. Why would I want someone with the same baggage as I have? That is completely stupid!!!

As far as I can see, all of these lame excuses to go out is just another means of conveying you want to be "free" and knowing that someone is at home waiting on you. One day you all will learn that life just doesn't work that way. You can't have your cake and eat it too. Someone will get sick and tired of it and won't tolerate it anymore but the question is "Who will it be?" :popcorn:
 
Chain729

Chain729

CageKicker Extraordinaire
Queenofdenile1 said:
I threw out a number and 30 was it. I didn't say you couldn't go out and have fun, but shouldn't you be having fun with the person you are living with or married to? If you need to go out like that, to a bar to have fun with a bunch of guys or girls, without your partner, then you don't need to be with someone. It tells me that you prefer being single and not really looking for a serious relationship and it's time to move on elsewhere!!

I can see it from both sides. Your right, but it could also be that the person who is wearing "whatever" needs attention or more attention. If my husband said "You know DENILE, those shorts are just a little short...whos attention are you trying to get"? It could be viewed as "Controlling" or "Disrespectful". It's disrespectful if you have a great husband or wife who is damn good to you and treats you with respect. It's "controlling" when they have their own issues and do whatever the he$$ they want but you can't.
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Unless you can't function on your own, no one needs to be with anyone. And I don't care how in love you are, everyone needs a break from time to time. I love my woman dearly and she loves me, but don't think for an instant that we don't need time to ourselves. Sometimes, you need a break, especially from those you love. Sure, your relationship should be pleasurable, but even the most pleasurable relationship is work, and sometimes you need to go out with your friends and have fun.

Personally, I would call that statement being sarcastic, not necessarily controlling or disrespectful. Saying "you aren't wearing that," is control.
 
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Queenofdenile1

Love is Blind
Chain729 said:
Unless you can't function on your own, no one needs to be with anyone. And I don't care how in love you are, everyone needs a break from time to time. I love my woman dearly and she loves me, but don't think for an instant that we don't need time to ourselves. Sometimes, you need a break, especially from those you love. Sure, your relationship should be pleasurable, but even the most pleasurable relationship is work, and sometimes you need to go out with your friends and have fun.

Personally, I would call that statement being sarcastic, not necessarily controlling or disrespectful. Saying "you aren't wearing that," is control.
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You are correct....I don't disagree with you. God, if I had to be with my husband or boyfriend 24-7, I'd go nuts. Love him dearly, but yeah you do need a break from each other. All I'm saying is if my partner feels the need to go to a bar or club at night w/o me, it might be time to reevaluate things. We may not be on the same page.

As for clothing attire, absolutely, "You WILL NOT be wearing that" is control. However, I know better than to dress too provocatively in public as I would not want to embarrass my husband or boyfriend who treats me well, and isn't a lying, cheating scumbag. Technically, I wouldn't do it anyway regardless of whether I had a boyfriend or not, however when I was younger, might be a different story!
 
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kris31280

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Queenofdenile1 said:
Whats the matter Kris, did I hit a nerve?. So defensive in striking back at me. And so what if I've been jaded? I know it, I accept it. I don't have a problem with it. It is what it is. Why would I want someone with the same baggage as I have? That is completely stupid!!!

As far as I can see, all of these lame excuses to go out is just another means of conveying you want to be "free" and knowing that someone is at home waiting on you. One day you all will learn that life just doesn't work that way. You can't have your cake and eat it too. Someone will get sick and tired of it and won't tolerate it anymore but the question is "Who will it be?" :popcorn:
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Yeah, I'd say you hit a nerve... because what you're spewing as "advice" is the same garbage you claim to have gotten rid of.

I didn't say you should look for someone who has the SAME baggage that you have... I said find someone who has SIMILAR baggage... in a contrasting color or shade... compatible baggage.

No one said someone has to be waiting at home for me... he can have his boys night out, I can have my girls night out, we can do couple things... it's called SECURITY... as in knowing that if he wants to go out to the strip club with the boys and get a lap dance and watch the girls jiggle their hoots in his face, he's still coming home to me at the end of the night and knows I'm going to be the one to rock his world.
 
Chain729

Chain729

CageKicker Extraordinaire
Queenofdenile1 said:
You are correct....I don't disagree with you. God, if I had to be with my husband or boyfriend 24-7, I'd go nuts. Love him dearly, but yeah you do need a break from each other. All I'm saying is if my partner feels the need to go to a bar or club at night w/o me, it might be time to reevaluate things. We may not be on the same page.

As for clothing attire, absolutely, "You WILL NOT be wearing that" is control. However, I know better than to dress too provocatively in public as I would not want to embarrass my husband or boyfriend who treats me well, and isn't a lying, cheating scumbag. Technically, I wouldn't do it anyway regardless of whether I had a boyfriend or not, however when I was younger, might be a different story!
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What's your big hang up about a bar? It's not a fricken brothel.
 
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Queenofdenile1

Love is Blind
kris31280 said:
Yeah, I'd say you hit a nerve... because what you're spewing as "advice" is the same garbage you claim to have gotten rid of.

I didn't say you should look for someone who has the SAME baggage that you have... I said find someone who has SIMILAR baggage... in a contrasting color or shade... compatible baggage.

No one said someone has to be waiting at home for me... he can have his boys night out, I can have my girls night out, we can do couple things... it's called SECURITY... as in knowing that if he wants to go out to the strip club with the boys and get a lap dance and watch the girls jiggle their hoots in his face, he's still coming home to me at the end of the night and knows I'm going to be the one to rock his world.
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Yeah Right, you keep telling yourself that Missy!!! You obviously have a LONG WAY TO GO!!! :lmao:
 
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