Ukraine / Russia - Actions and Reactions

herb749

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It's time to shut down the Ukraine money spigot




The Volodymr Zelensky-led administration is now demanding over $5 billion dollars a month just to cover the costs of its government, which includes the many bureaucrats and government employee salaries. That’s over $60 billion a year just to finance the operating costs of its government, which has historically been ranked the most corrupt in all of Europe.

This latest demand comes in addition to the estimated $100 billion in recent European and American dollars already allocated to propping up its collapsing military.

The Ukrainian military is being routed in the field, and now losing badly to the Russian military, which has successfully employed old-school industrial warfare to vacuum up territory that provides Moscow with port access. Time is no longer on the side of Kiev, which continues to lose territory, and has failed to chalk up a significant battlefield victory for many weeks.

Similar to the trillions in “pandemic expenditures,” the costs related to the war have officially entered sunk costs territory. The Ukrainian military is on its heels, and it has no hope of independently regaining territory from Russia. Thankfully, there is no appetite in the West for direct confrontation, which could lead to a World War 3-like outcome.


Getting close to the time Zelensky disappears with his millions/billions .
 

GURPS

INGSOC
PREMO Member

Fighting to the last Ukrainian: Biden's proxy war of attrition has become an unmitigated disaster




Russian forces are, to put it bluntly, mopping the floor with the Ukrainian military. Moscow is methodically sweeping up vast amounts of territory in the country’s east, as the Ukrainians remain badly outgunned and outmaneuvered by a superior army. Despite that reality, the Zelensky government's western allies all agree that now is not the time to negotiate an end to this conflict.

Not only has the economic war against Russia been an unmitigated disaster, but the kinetic proxy war is achieving similar results.

The Biden Administration and its NATO partners have decided, from a comfortable distance away from the fight, that millions of Ukrainian lives are a price worth paying to make sure the band stays together, with the side benefit of chipping away at Russia’s military.

The longer the war, the better.

They’ve already allocated some $100 billion to the fight (much of it seemingly missing), with endless billions more to come, and have grand plans to spin up the military industrial machine to cash more weapons purchase orders.





It seems that just enough monetary, military, and intelligence support has been deployed into Ukraine to make sure that Russia’s gains are a bit slower than they would be without the help. Yet Kiev is still losing strategically important and economically valuable territory, and as each day passes, their negotiating leverage declines. Meanwhile, NATO leaders continue to tell the Ukrainians to keep fighting, promising more weapons, more aid, and more hope to turn the tide.
 

GURPS

INGSOC
PREMO Member
🚀 The latest debate about whether Ukraine or Russia is worse involves a blown-up urban shopping mall in Kyiv that Ukraine says Russia deliberately targeted, and Russia says was right next to an ammo storage warehouse, which was the actual target, and the shopping mall just got caught in the explosion’s fallout.

Either way, at least SOME Ukrainians are starting to ask the right questions (warning- adult language):





Clean version: whoever is to blame, why the heck would the moronic government of Ukraine store high-value ammo right next to a downtown shopping mall? Why not put it out in the country somewhere where explosions can’t hurt anybody? Dummies. They’re using their own citizens as human shields to protect their assets.

We feel you, Ukraine. Just look at Joe Biden.


 

GURPS

INGSOC
PREMO Member
🚀 It is extremely difficult, if not impossible, to find any corporate media reports about what Russian government officials are saying about pretty much anything. I get that they lie a lot, but do they lie any more often than our own government officials do? Just like the Russians living in the old Soviet Union, Americans are getting pretty good at this point at automatically distrusting whatever narrative the government is peddling today.

I say let us hear it all, and then WE will decide. We’re adults and free citizens living in a democracy. We don’t need the government to screen out potentially dangerous information.

Anyway, because they ARE screening out the Russians, I have to rely on non-traditional sources. My promise to you is I test them every way I can, to determine reliability, but I cannot guarantee anything.

The information for this update comes from the guy who first figured out that the Russians were targeting US Biolabs in Ukraine by noticing the patterns of artillery fire on the map. That was back when the US government stupidly denied there even were any biolabs in Ukraine, even though the information was easily found on archives of our Ukrainian embassy’s website.

Ultimately Tucker carried the story, and the government and corporate media were forced to admit the biolabs exist. But only for peaceful purposes, of course.

According to the same guy who figured out the Russians were shooting up U.S. biolabs in Ukraine, Irina Yarovaya, Deputy Chairwoman of Russia’s State Duma, reported on US biolabs this week to the Duma (Russia’s congress). The first and most significant thing she said was that Russia is building a case, a “dossier,” against the U.S., allegedly featuring heavy Democrat involvement in illegal weapons research, and plans to release the report in August. Right before midterms.

Specifically, Yarovaya said “The Commission is forming a dossier in order to systematize cases of criminal activities and qualify them and will be ready to present a final report in Autumn.”

Hahahahaha! That’s the same month that the Democrats plan to release the novel version of their January 6th show! Everybody’s trying to influence the elections.

She also told the Duma that the Ukraine war — the “special military operation” — was justified to put a stop to the “Pentagon’s dangerous military-biological activities on the territory of Ukraine.” She reported that Russian investigators found specific evidence in Ukraine of illegal U.S. bioweapons research, including one colorful project where counterfeit bills would be intentionally “infected with a very dangerous, highly pathogenic strain of Asian tuberculosis.”

I wish I could say I didn’t believe a word of it.

She also reported that the “veterinary lab” in Mariupol, Ukraine, was discovered to be hosting super-non-veterinary germs like “typhoid fever, paratyphoid fever, perfringens. And 124 other seized strains are being studied by specialists.”

(FYI, clostridium perfringens is one of the most common causes of human food poisoning in the U.S.)

Yarovaya also claimed Russian investigators discovered “documents that were seized by the Ministry of Defense showing that dangerous experiments were conducted on Ukrainian servicemen,” allegedly killing them within 72 hours.

The U.S. government is responding to these allegations by canceling Russia. Maybe it’s no wonder the Biden Administration is spending so much effort and energy on its “disinformation board.” We thought it was all about covid and ivermectin and stuff. But what if it was REALLY about Ukraine the whole time? Maybe what they are really doing is trying to get ahead of Russian disclosures about their dirty little science experiments?

Remember bizarro-world Mary Poppins, the kooky young lady they first hired to run their new cancellation board? Her super-thin resume included working for that failed technopop actor Zelenskyy — in Ukraine. Get it?



Maybe her hiring wasn’t such a bizarre choice after all? Maybe it’s not a disinformation board at all. Maybe it’s really an anti-biolab information board.

Anyway. You know what would be a whole lot easier and more effective than creating a giant disinformation board to cancel Russia to stop Americans from wrongthinking? OPEN THE BOOKS. Just release all the information about those peaceful, non-military, veterinary labs we’ve built in poor countries to keep everyone safe. Be transparent.

Someone once said the truth would set you free, or something like that. Try it, just once. See if it works.


 

GURPS

INGSOC
PREMO Member

EU Caves Putin Wins, Transportation of Russian Goods to Kaliningrad Through Lithuania Will Resume




Two weeks ago, a NATO blockade of Kaliningrad, an outpost of Russia, was triggered when Lithuania blocked the transport of goods through Suwalki corridor. According to the Lithuanian justification they were following through on NATO sanctions against Russian goods. However, the escalation was very provocative toward Russia and discussions between Russia and NATO countries were tense.

Apparently, Germany was increasingly concerned the blockade was creating a scenario where Russian military were going to escort the transport of railroad goods to Kaliningrad, and that would lead to escalated military conflict with Russia. “German Chancellor Olaf Scholz is eager to avoid unnecessary provocations of Russia. He has repeatedly emphasized that he would do everything in his power to ensure that NATO does not become a party to the war between Russia and Ukraine. German soldiers are stationed in Lithuania and could become involved in a possible conflict.” {link}
 
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GURPS

INGSOC
PREMO Member
🔥 The disputed labs in Ukraine have been clearly linked with an American company called MetaBiota. MetaBiota was also the only American company allowed to work at the Wuhan lab in China. MetaBiota’s start-up capital came from Rosemont Seneca — Hunter Biden’s company.

Here’s a 2014 email to Hunter Biden, recovered from his laptop, from MetaBiota VP Mary Guttieri, offering Hunter a helpful memorandum about how “we can potentially leverage our team, networks, and concepts to assert Ukraine’s cultural and economic independence from Russia[.]”




So many questions. First, what was Hunter doing dabbling in Ukraine’s independence from Russia? Why was he so interested in THAT? Why was an American biotechnology company involved in Ukraine’s independence from Russia? What does that Ukrainian independence from Russia have to do with biotech?

But the question that really gets me is, when Russia inevitably became aware of these efforts, when Russian prostitute-loving Hunter inevitably spilled the beans, how were the Russians SUPPOSED to respond? Especially after Hunter’s dad, the “Big Guy,” then infested the office of the Presidency in 2020 under — let’s be honest — somewhat sketchy circumstances?

One suspects the Russians could feel rather gloomy about Hunter Biden and MetaBiota now being fueled by the entire apparatus of the United States government.

And, to place another layer on the slime cake, here’s a photo of Nathan Wolfe, WEF young global leader and CEO of MetaBiota, posing with Epstein’s top procurer and daughter of CIA pet billionaire Robert Maxwell, notorious pedophile and madame Ghislaine Maxwell:



You REALLY can’t make this stuff up. Nobody would believe it.



 

GURPS

INGSOC
PREMO Member
🔥 As the final whiffs of natural gas wheeze out of the Western end of the Nordstream-1 pipeline, cracks are appearing in the Ukraine war alliance. A headline in the UK Express yesterday explains, “Brussels Bloc Plunged Into Chaos as Germans Accused of Blocking €9BN Ukraine Aid Package.” Uh oh.

The Express says an Italian source disclosed that Germany just blocked a $9 billion Ukraine aid package, “is preparing to violate some sanctions against Moscow in order to obtain more gas supplies from Russia through Nord Stream pipelines,” and Germany has reportedly refused to deliver high-tech tanks to Ukraine.

Weird. It’s almost like the Germans don’t want to be Sri Lanka’d or something.



 

GURPS

INGSOC
PREMO Member

Credit Crisis: Zelensky government demands another $9 billion a month ‘to survive,' almost doubling previous request



In less than a month, Ukraine’s claimed budget deficit has somehow increased by 80 percent, leading to the possibility that the Ukrainian government is in dire financial straits.

The country’s notoriously corrupt political bureaucracy is disappearing cash at such a fast rate that it may lead to a catastrophic event for the government in Kiev.

On Monday, The Dossier reported on the continuing economic and battlefield losses unfolding for the regime in Kiev, projecting that the Russia-Ukraine war may come to a conclusion sooner than many credentialed foreign policy analysts expect.
 

GURPS

INGSOC
PREMO Member

U.S. Admits To Providing Intel on Russian Assets to Ukraine



The anonymous U.S. officials who spoke to the Times did not say how many Russians were killed thanks to American intel. But it's unlikely that Ukrainians could have killed a dozen Russian generals without assistance. In an attempt to downplay the disclosure, National Security Council spokeswoman Adrienne Watson said U.S. battlefield intelligence was not provided to the Ukrainians "with the intent to kill Russian generals." Is that technicality supposed to placate Russian President Vladimir Putin?

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Since Russia invaded Ukraine on February 24, President Joe Biden has insisted that "our forces are not and will not be engaged in a conflict with Russia in Ukraine." But leaking covert operations is an unnecessary escalation of an already precarious situation. While talking to leaders of the U.S. intelligence community, New York Times columnist Thomas Friedman reported, Biden used "the strongest and most colorful language" to explain how "this kind of loose talk is reckless and has got to stop immediately."

These disclosures, along with Defense Secretary Lloyd J. Austin's comment to the media that Russia should be "weakened to the degree it cannot do the kinds of things that it has done in invading Ukraine," can't sit well with Putin. And the last thing the U.S. should be doing is poking a nuclear bear.
 

herb749

Well-Known Member
IMO Ukraine cannot win no matter how much is sent to them.
There just aint enough of them.

The money senders are still hoping for a truce of some kind. I believe Russia just wanted the 3 regions in the beginning but the sending of military equipment is making Russia push farther west. Eventually there will be 2 Ukraines.
 

Hijinx

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The money senders are still hoping for a truce of some kind. I believe Russia just wanted the 3 regions in the beginning but the sending of military equipment is making Russia push farther west. Eventually there will be 2 Ukraines.
Or one Russia.
 

GURPS

INGSOC
PREMO Member

Ukraine Cargo Plane Crashed in Greece Carrying 11 Tons of Bombs, Mortars and Landmines to Bangladesh


If I had to hazard a guess about what this was, I’d say it is most likely: (a) part of the massive Ukrainian stores of mortars and landmines in eastern Ukraine that were moved in order to keep the Russians from capturing them; or (b) the actual arms that were captured by Russian and then sold on the world arms market. Either way, somehow, they end up as part of an arms deal from Serbia to Bangladesh.


With the new and improved western weapons provided by the United States, Ukraine is likely upgrading and selling their old weapons to various nefarious arms dealers.

This shipment happened to crash, and that’s the only reason we are hearing about it.
 

Kyle

ULTRA-F###ING-MAGA!
PREMO Member
10 Ways To Help The Struggling People Of Ukraine With Minimal Effort


Ukraine is at war, and they are counting on you to carry out various symbolic gestures that will show everyone you care while requiring almost no effort on your part!

Here are some great ways to help the struggling people of Ukraine:

1) Add a Ukrainian flag to your profile pic: The most important thing you can do.

4) Find the smartest guy you know and get him a job at a Ukrainian gas company: Come on man! Not a joke!

7) Buy an electric car: We're pretty sure that helps somehow.


 

GURPS

INGSOC
PREMO Member
🔥 The next story may possibly be the most significant news I’ve ever reported, and I don’t think I’m exaggerating. The news is that Deputy Chairwoman of the Russian State Duma (congress) Irina Yarovaya gave an update yesterday on Russia’s official investigation into US Biolabs in Ukraine.

What the Russians are saying isn’t pretty. And they claim to have a mountain of evidence. So far, the U.S. has not deigned to respond to any of the deadly serious allegations.

Remember that back in May, the Russians presented evidence to the U.N. Security Council arguing that the U.S. had been performing illegal bioweapons development — AND TESTING — in Ukraine, including accusing the last three Democrat administrations of working with George Soros, Bill Gates, and big pharma to break treaties, develop illegal weapons technology, release bioweapons into Ukraine, test the weapons on soldiers and mental patients, and — most significantly — infect the Russian people and crops.

Specifically, the Russians identified a surprising list of key individuals and groups alleged to have masterminded the conspiracy:

  • The *Democratic National Party*
  • *Barack Obama*
  • *Hilary Clinton*
  • *Joe Biden*
  • *George Soros*
I am not making that up. That’s what the Russians are saying. A remarkable diagram shows all the alleged players that goes far beyond those named above, and includes Pfizer, the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation, and others.



The Russians accused the top Democrats of facilitating the illegal research for military purposes in league with big pharma, which was brought in whenever there were tests or leaks, to develop lucrative treatments for the new diseases. In return, argued the Russians, big pharma funneled massive campaign contributions back to Democrats, making a sinister and demonic viral feedback loop.

U.S. corporate media — which furiously leapt on the made-up Russiagate story and for weeks breathlessly reported unsubstantiated allegations against Brett Kavenaugh — completely ignored the Russians’ incredibly serious accusations, fully discounting them as “Russian misinformation” to the point it wasn’t even worth mentioning. The Biden Administration even tried to setup a “disinformation governance board” run by a former Zelensky aid, in an apparent effort to screw an even tighter lid onto the news.

Last week, the Russians announced they intend to release a comprehensive report about the U.S. biolabs program soon — before the midterms — and yesterday, as I said, Chairwoman Yarovaya gave a status update to the Russian Duma, or legislature.

🔥 Yarovaya began her comments yesterday as follows:

“As evidence today, the parliamentary commission may already present the facts that bio laboratories supervised by the Pentagon on the territory of Ukraine did not meet safety criteria. In the current mode of their activity, they posed and pose a colossal threat for citizens of Ukraine and for the whole world.
The facility was not only insecure. Despite the fact that they were working with dangerous viruses and pathogens, there was also a leak. It is quite likely that this explains the growth of epidemics in Ukraine.
But most likely, those who created these laboratories were interested in ensuring [they] were not adequately protected, not only for corruption, but also in order to carry out a live experiment; in this way, to monitor what the reaction from the population would be, what the mortality rate would be, what the consequences would be.”
In other words, the Russians are saying the U.S. has been INTENTIONALLY negligent. The idea would be that the U.S. could deliberately leak pathogens and then hide behind the excuse it was just an accident, because everybody knows the labs are so shoddy. Like when your kids manically swings his arms around acting crazy and then “accidentally” punches his younger brother in the nose. Sorry not sorry!

The Russians’ theory sounds bonkers until you consider Wuhan. Starting in 2018, the State Department published a series of reports about how the biolab at the Wuhan Institute of Virology was so insecure and poorly-run. And then nothing whatever was done about it. Then the covid virus “accidentally” leaked and broke the world. So those State Department reports were retrospectively super helpful, in diverting suspicion that the virus was purposefully leaked.

It was just an accident.

The Russians also alleged that the U.S. culprits are hiding behind “animal research;” further concealing their guilt by genetically grafting human infection capabilities onto existing animal viruses, so they can claim natural origins for the newly-developed bugs. Like with covid. Or monkeypox.

If true, it would explain all the “veterinary reasearch” biolabs the U.S. has been building in all these third-world countries that lack oversight or effective supervision and what regulators there are, will — well — look the other way under the right circumstances. And probably pretty cheaply.

Yarovaya said the result of all this intentional negligence has been “unforeseen situations all over the world.” She fingered the U.S. for the novel monkeypox outbreak. “Everything related to coronavirus, monkey pox, should be searched in the test tubes of American laboratories,” she said.

By a totally random coincidence, the very same Wuhan Institute of Virology where covid was developed was also experimenting with monkeypox:

So.

 
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