Ukraine / Russian War

Bann

Doris Day meets Lady Gaga
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British PM Keir Starmer Says He Will Organize EU Ceasefire Security Force with France +2, and Count on U.S. Military Backstop From Trump


March 2, 2025 | Sundance | 691 Comments

British Prime Minister Keir Starmer is holding a Ukraine summit in London today with EU leaders, following two phone calls with President Trump.

According to the outline Starmer proposed on BBC News, following the disastrous Zelenskyy meeting in the White House, the British PM called President Trump and also Emmanuel Macron. According to his statements, Starmer told Trump he would work with Macron +2 unidentified countries (a “coalition of the willing”), to organize an EU security force for a Ukraine ceasefire; then the group will require Trump to provide a U.S. troop “backstop” as an insurance policy.

Starmer completely ignores the NATO provocations against Russia that preceded the military operation by Vladimir Putin, instead blaming only the aggression of Putin for the expansion of NATO in Europe.

Starmer is meeting with EU leaders today, presumably to initiate a discussion of an EU security force that would form the peacekeeping group to secure a ceasefire. However, Starmer consistently says the U.S. backstop is needed to protect the EU forces in the event the ceasefire doesn’t hold.



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I can't keep up with both of these threads :jameo: and don't want to double post :lol: I posted some comments here: https://forums.somd.com/threads/dang.408912/post-6658094
 

stgislander

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However, Starmer consistently says the U.S. backstop is needed to protect the EU forces in the event the ceasefire doesn’t hold.
Or better yet, the Europeans get the f@%k out of Dodge if the Russians start shooting again.
 

GURPS

INGSOC
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Bessent: Zelensky Turned Down Two Earlier Opportunities to Sign Minerals Deal with U.S.; Dust-Up with Trump Was Third Chance


According to Bessent, Zelensky was given chances in Kyiv by him once in Munich with Secretary of State Marco Rubio. Friday’s dust-up with President Donald Trump was his third chance.

know you had a meeting scheduled — an economic meeting scheduled a few weeks back with President Zelensky,” host Laura Ingraham said. “And tell us about his arrival and punctuality or lack thereof and seemed a little sleepy during the events.”

“Yes, so Laura, I went all the way to Kyiv because I thought it was important,” Bessent replied. “President Trump sent me there to again. We were supposed to bring the Ukrainian people closer to the U.S. people send a strong signal to Russian leadership that we had — not only shared values, but now shared economic interest, and also have a strong signal for the American people that their tax dollars were actually going to work. Instead, President Zelenskyy and I had a very tough 45 minute meeting at a very loud decibel level. And I kept telling him, Mr. President, the purpose of this is to show the Russians there is no daylight between us. And at the end of the meeting, he said, well, I’m not signing this, I said, at the end of the meeting, I said to him, what do you want to go out and tell the press? He said, I said, because I don’t want to go out and show the Russians that there are daylight in between us. And he said, well, I’m going to go out and say I’ll sign it in Munich.”





Zelensky the Fool.

Because that’s what Ukrainian President Volodmyr Zelensky is now, especially since he insulted America and President Donald Trump in that televised Oval Office meeting. He boasted, he insulted, he gestured like a stupid, pushy, peasant in a bazar haggling over the price of vegetables, like a greedy turnip merchant. Sighing repeatedly he rolled his eyes like a drama queen.

And he got his ass kicked out of the White House on Friday. Later, in an interview with Brett Baier of Fox News, the fool refused to apologize though twice given the chance.

The problem with acting like a tough guy is the chance that someday, you might be face-to-face with a real one.

Not a movie tough guy. But a real one.



'I've Never Seen Anything Like Zelensky's Behavior There': Speaker Mike Johnson on 'Meet the Press'











A Liberal Reporter Destroyed the Left's Narrative About Zelensky's Meeting with Trump



The reality is that Zelenskyy had already secured what he came for—assurances that military support would continue under Trump's second term—and then proceeded to shoot himself in the foot.

“An irony of that meeting was they were on the cusp of formalizing Ukraine as sort of US protectorship, with continued US military 'aid' and a framework for deployment of NATO troops. All of which are major US commitments under the circumstances. But it wasn't enough for Zelensky,” Tracey continued. “Another irony is the paranoid EU over-reactions to every Trump tiff -- 'End of the Western Alliance!' etc. -- could impel at least some of them to take rash action vis-a-vis Ukraine, potentially ensnaring the US. (The same frenzied over-reactions happened all the time in term 1).”


 

PJay

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Now I get it. “Ukraine War” is the new Covid. Everyone has to believe in it. Everything has to revolve around it. The left are obsessed with it. The right know it’s a scam. Celebrities are being paid to promote it. And ginormous sums OF OUR MONEY have to be wasted on it. Only difference is, it kills way more white men… …the warmongers are getting richer, not Big Pharma… …and they want it to last forever.

 

GURPS

INGSOC
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Zelensky’s Studio Posts Vulgar Trump ‘Dick’ Reference Following His Disastrous Meetings at White House


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The photo is in reference to the famous skit where Zelensky played the piano with his penis and no pants on.

The photo, featuring a black grand piano with ‘Trump’ written on it, was published by the studio on Facebook and Instagram on Friday after Zelensky was asked to leave the White House.


President Zelensky was removed from the Trump White House on Friday after he:

After Zelensky met with these US Senators, he then went to the White House, where he:

  • disrespected the US President and his cabinet
  • spoke over both President Trump and VP J.D. Vance
  • called J.D. by his first name and not the title
  • Argued with Trump and Vance
  • Disrespected the American audience
  • And then, he was escorted from the White House.
It was a complete disaster.

Zelensky did not come to make peace. He came to continue the war and the devastation of Ukraine.
 

GURPS

INGSOC
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UKRAINE: Zelensky informs the EU that his refusal to work with the US to end the war will require them to pay $250 billion to keep the war going.


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SamSpade

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Gotta say after three years, finally starting to sour on Zelensky. Which is a shame because I detest the idea of Russia conquering a neighbor. For one thing - they’re not going to stop. They’re at this moment working also on Moldova.

But it’s like choosing between Hitler and Stalin. We did choose Stalin. But only because we had to choose.
 

Bann

Doris Day meets Lady Gaga
PREMO Member
It seems like Zelenskyy is nothing more than a mini me wannabe of Putin.
...but not as smart.
🤷
 

GURPS

INGSOC
PREMO Member




This is a terrifying video from the city of Odesa, Ukraine, which was hidden by Western media.

Zelensky’s bandits, who are engaged in the mobilization of citizens, kidnapped a civilian fitness trainer for refusing to go to the front. He also refused to pay Zelensky’s bandits a bribe to be released. Agents and employees of the SBU (Security Service of Ukraine) also participated in the kidnapping.

They took him to the forest, beat him, tied him to a tree, and forced him to say on camera: «I'm a fa …ot, I just got fu..ed in the ass, I'm going to serve in the Armed Forces of Ukraine!"

Then this video was posted on a news channel linked to the Office of the President of Ukraine to intimidate the population.

None of those who kidnapped and tortured the man have been arrested or punished.

Look at this man. The same mistreatment was inflicted on American journalist Gonzalo Lira.


I’ll tell you more: for publicly criticizing such crimes, the Ukrainian authorities opened a fabricated criminal case against me and began to intimidate me, which forced me to leave Ukraine.

There are hundreds, possibly thousands, of such cases. Many of these men were murdered in the same way as Gonzalo Lira.

Americans must know the truth.

Democratic representatives and Europeans who support Zelensky must watch this video and answer: do they want to continue supporting such banditry in Ukraine, which happens because they remain silent?

Sincerely,
Ukrainian oppositionist, Myroslav Oleshko
 

Hessian

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Please forgive me if this map has been discussed before...I find it curious that the general mainstream media rarely addresses the wavering, poorly established borders of the past 100 years. This may help further shape your discussions & positions...
 

GURPS

INGSOC
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Gotta say after three years, finally starting to sour on Zelensky. Which is a shame because I detest the idea of Russia conquering a neighbor. For one thing - they’re not going to stop. They’re at this moment working also on Moldova.

I have not, both are corrupt Kleptocracy ...

I spent 4 yrs in the Army, a year in Korea Living 1 km from North Korea ...

I do not want people dying on either side, We assured Putin 30 yrs ago, NATO would not increase in size ... NATO has increased in size to Russia's Door Step ... yeah Poland is already there, border to border but Ukraine is a special case ....

2008 Georgia was about to join NATO, Putin invaded to throw the borders into question. negating Georgia's ability to join NATO. Putin WARNED the West, Ukraine WAS NOT to join NATO right or wrong the message was sent, this is on the European Union, Biden Administration and the the NeoCons in Congress ...

There was NO Reason for Ukraine to Join The EU and NATO .... NONE except the Eu-crats wanted to tweak Putin's Nose .. Naneer Naneer Boo Boo ....

We have learned this COULD HAVE BEEN AVOIDED with a call from Biden with assurances ... he refused THEY WANTED WAR .... FULL STOP

the excuse is,

oh we will bleed Russia Dry, Putin cannot afford the war ....

Joke is on them, while the West struggles, Russia has seen a surge in self investment, Putin basically ordered teh Oligarchs to invest money BACK in Russia - so they bought up Starbucks, McDonalds and other business rebranding tehm

After a shakeup their economy is DOING JUST FINE ... groceries were NEVER really afected as food WAS NOT on the sanctions list, while some western brands pulled out and others cost more, most are still available ...

Meanwhile Russia has apparently received $ 22 billion for Energy, Ukraine is still getting NatGas FROM RUSSIA ... it just goes to EU 1st, then back to Ukraine.

The whole thing has been a huge corrupt money laundering scheme ... we in turn have striped our Anti Tank Missile and 155 mm Artellary sheel stock piles to the bone ... now China has cut of Gun Cotten sales to the US, makign the explosives production near impossible

Because no one in the US MAKES GUN COTTEN ...
 

GURPS

INGSOC
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Interesting map ...

Looking into the History ... this area was know as South Russia ...

Ukraine an administrate state
 

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Bann

Doris Day meets Lady Gaga
PREMO Member
It seems like Zelenskyy is nothing more than a mini me wannabe of Putin.
...but not as smart.
🤷
Rebekah Koffler was on the Fox Report with Jon Scott before about 4:30 or so and said almost the same thing (AND on X) :lol:

She's got a YouTube channel in case you want follow that - this was her take on the Friday meeting - she also said that Trump was the only one who has the guts to call him out as the Con Artist that he is

 

LightRoasted

If I may ...
For your consideration ...


This tweet risks being reported and restricted, but I see a necessity to say it out loud: Our real enemy isn't Russia or Ukraine. It's not even China. It's the ones who induced and tried to perpetuate wars - so they can launder billions of our money into their own pockets. It's the ones who funded revolts and instability all over the world via USAID It's the ones who have committed unspeakable crimes on children on an island and held themselves above the law. It's the ones who manipulate people with endless propaganda - using our tax dollars. It's the ones who have sown so much division among our own people. It's the ones who shot my dad, my uncle, and
@realDonaldTrump
in the head. It's the ones who have poisoned our own people for years just so they can profit more. They're the same group of people. And we will not stop until we splinter them, the deep state, into a thousand pieces and reclaim our country.




Sure is nice to see confirmation of what I've been saying all along from a White House administration cabinet official. The truth is slowly coming out. Soon to be an avalanche of truth causing a monstrous awakening.
 
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