Under Achieving Amish?

fatratcat

Member
Why do Laurel, Annapolis, and Upper Marlboro all have year round Amish Markets and Southern Maryland does not? We actually have Amish in our community, but only have a seasonal shanty town market in front of the CH Library? One group seems to be able to truck down from Lancaster county and the other...well...doesn't make sense. Even better, the old IGA in CH is a second hand store & it looks like McKay's is about to relocate. This leaves an opportunity for our own Amish community to move out of their shanty town into permanent digs with refrigeration and other creature comforts likely to enhance their business and help their community grow. Are they just under achievers? Do our local economic development people even notice or care? Let me put it this way. Big empty former grocery store with an Amish buggy trail leading up to it that passes the eyesore shanty town seasonal market...hmmm! Don't get me wrong. I love the Amish, in fact, I'd love to see them flourish rather than struggle in a seasonal market.
 

TPD

the poor dad
Why do Laurel, Annapolis, and Upper Marlboro all have year round Amish Markets and Southern Maryland does not? We actually have Amish in our community, but only have a seasonal shanty town market in front of the CH Library? One group seems to be able to truck down from Lancaster county and the other...well...doesn't make sense. Even better, the old IGA in CH is a second hand store & it looks like McKay's is about to relocate. This leaves an opportunity for our own Amish community to move out of their shanty town into permanent digs with refrigeration and other creature comforts likely to enhance their business and help their community grow. Are they just under achievers? Do our local economic development people even notice or care? Let me put it this way. Big empty former grocery store with an Amish buggy trail leading up to it that passes the eyesore shanty town seasonal market...hmmm! Don't get me wrong. I love the Amish, in fact, I'd love to see them flourish rather than struggle in a seasonal market.

Why would you move from a rent free, utility free house to one that you will pay an ungodly amount of rent and utilities with no guarantees that it will last any longer or provide any better shelter?
 

Blister

Well-Known Member
Even though this area is growing rapidly our population may not be big enough to support a market of this size. Annapolis, Laurel and Marlboro are much closer to a much larger customer base. Our Amish are operating in a market with "Zero" overhead costs, on county land. Those other markets also sell alot of processed meat products that I believe involve much higher costs, and more government regulations to deal with.
 

fatratcat

Member
Because you could operate year round and increase your demand. The foot traffic at the other markets is stunning and they are not necessarily in the most convenient locations. Most are pretty sold out after a few hours. Also, you can expand your product and service lines. The combined population of St. Mary's and Charle counties is more than 250,000. A quarter million folks is more than enough to be successful.
 
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FromTexas

This Space for Rent
Why don't you stop underachieving and grow your own fresh produce, produce your own butter and cheese, and make your own baked goods? Then you won't have to wank about the Amish not having a market open year round for you.
 

fatratcat

Member
Why don't you stop underachieving and grow your own fresh produce, produce your own butter and cheese, and make your own baked goods? Then you won't have to wank about the Amish not having a market open year round for you.

Because I believe in supporting farmers and the Amish community?
 

quailridge

New Member
There is a store on the Eastern Shore just like what you are talking about. It
was as old grocery store and they sectioned it off to accommodate different items....i.e. baked goods, produce, woodworking, quilts, crafts, etc. It was full of customers (on a Saturday in Sept.). It looked like it was doing a good business to me!
 

idiganthro

Member
Maybe it's not under-achieving, but some ideal this particular community follows. Some groups are more mainstream and commercial, and others choose to be more private and withdrawn from the rest of society. Not sure, just a thought.
 

spinner

Member
There is a store on the Eastern Shore just like what you are talking about. It
was as old grocery store and they sectioned it off to accommodate different items....i.e. baked goods, produce, woodworking, quilts, crafts, etc. It was full of customers (on a Saturday in Sept.). It looked like it was doing a good business to me!

We had a store like that in Prince. Fred, it's now a Green Turtle. It was a great place and I enjoyed being part of it, and many people were sorry to see it go.
 

spinner

Member
Maybe it's not under-achieving, but some ideal this particular community follows. Some groups are more mainstream and commercial, and others choose to be more private and withdrawn from the rest of society. Not sure, just a thought.

In Maryland you can't sell butter, milk or cheese unless you have a certified dairy. I can't say about the people coming in from Lancaster, Pa. There are also rules on home canned items and baked goods, but I don't know anything about those. However you can go up to DC and buy wonderful artisan cheeses and fresh meat at their farmers market coming in from Virginia and West Virginia. In an effort to keep us safe [I guess that is the reason] Maryland is regulating us to death. I made my own cheese and drank my goat's milk for years and never got sick once.
 

nutz

Well-Known Member
In Maryland you can't sell butter, milk or cheese unless you have a certified dairy.

that's a big part of the puzzle. They are building a "certified" production plant but surprise,surprise.....they are having a lot of difficulties getting permits and approvals.
 

kom526

They call me ... Sarcasmo
The health department and other county and state agencies hate the Amish so they enacted all these laws concerning what they sell to the public, inn the name of "public health". Why is McDonald's still open? Ever seen an obese Amish person? They must be doing something right.
 
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Baja28

Obama destroyed America
Our local Amish sell seasonal goods. What would they sell from September to April? Most fruits, flowers & veggies are gone.
 

bresamil

wandering aimlessly
Our local Amish sell seasonal goods. What would they sell from September to April? Most fruits, flowers & veggies are gone.

And they only sell overflow. First order of business is to feed the family and community, that includes canning for the winter. Selling to we "English" is just a side business. Same for quilts, etc.
 

spinner

Member
The health department and other county and state agencies hate the Amish so they enacted all these laws concerning what they sell to the public, inn the name of "public health". Why is McDonald's still open? Ever seen an obese Amish person? They must be doing something right.

Everybody has to follow the same rules. Years ago we looked into selling cheese made from our goat milk but for the amount we would produce it was too large an investment of time and money. And not worth the hassle. It's a shame because I think people are looking to buy locally, but some things they aren't able to.
 

kom526

They call me ... Sarcasmo
Everybody has to follow the same rules. Years ago we looked into selling cheese made from our goat milk but for the amount we would produce it was too large an investment of time and money. And not worth the hassle. It's a shame because I think people are looking to buy locally, but some things they aren't able to.

Only recently were there regs put in place to require ingredient labels for Amish products.
 

MarieB

New Member
In Maryland you can't sell butter, milk or cheese unless you have a certified dairy. I can't say about the people coming in from Lancaster, Pa. There are also rules on home canned items and baked goods, but I don't know anything about those. However you can go up to DC and buy wonderful artisan cheeses and fresh meat at their farmers market coming in from Virginia and West Virginia. In an effort to keep us safe [I guess that is the reason] Maryland is regulating us to death. I made my own cheese and drank my goat's milk for years and never got sick once.


PA has a cottage law, but I'm not sure what the specifics of it are. (Usually they cover foods that would not be thought to be hazardous) Cottage laws vary widely, and I think there are only about 13 states that have them. A cottage law really benefits the entire community. It allows for people to start small and grow as their business grows.
 
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