US Torture is wrong.

JPC sr

James P. Cusick Sr.
Scofflaw and Personal Responsibility.

vraiblonde said:
Why are you drooling?

Oh...wait...nevermind...
:diva: True, I just could not help it.

But that link about torture from a Marine Corp General was so powerful that I just had to share it here.
:drool:
 

kom526

They call me ... Sarcasmo
JPC sr said:
:diva: True, I just could not help it.

But that link about torture from a Marine Corp General was so powerful that I just had to share it here.
:drool:
1) It's corpS not corp
2) Raghead torture is OK? Got tell that to the Pearl (sp) and Berg families.
3) Your posts torture my brain. Why don't you go eat a bullet or something?
 

Lenny

Lovin' being Texican
kom526 said:
1) Why don't you go eat a bullet or something?

It's called 'suck-starting a revolver' and JPCSr should have no trouble with that (since he sucks so badly). But he has to wait for the Maryland welfare-disability program to give him a gun. He's a cripple you know.
 

edinsomd

New Member
"..."waterboarding," "sensory deprivation," "sleep deprivation" and "stress positions"..." Wish I could arrange a trip for you up into the Rangeley Mountains in Maine. The Navy runs a festive little camping adventure there called SERE School, for Survival, Evasion, Resistance, and Escape. As an alumnus of this particular vivid learning experience, I can say with some authority that these techniques are uncomfortable, demeaning, and coercive, but hardly constitute my definition of "torture". The training I received there included all of these, as well as more, ah, hands-on techniques. Putting KSM, the 9/11 mastermind, on a waterboard to gain intelligence that may prevent further attacks on American citizens and others is a complete no-brainer, that scum needs to be drained of anything useful and then set out for crab bait. After a fair Military Tribunal, of course.
Ed
 

Mikeinsmd

New Member
JPC sr said:
:drool: The USA doing and promoting torture is commented on by a Marine Corps Commandant,
click HERE for link. It is a sad situation indeed. :hot:
You dum dum. Wanna see torture?? Make it legal for me to own a muslim terrorist for a week.


Oh I'll need a Dr. to keep him alive until I'm done.
 

JPC sr

James P. Cusick Sr.
Scofflaw and Personal Responsibility.

edinsomd said:
"..."waterboarding," "sensory deprivation," "sleep deprivation" and "stress positions"..." Wish I could arrange a trip for you up into the Rangeley Mountains in Maine. The Navy runs a festive little camping adventure there called SERE School, for Survival, Evasion, Resistance, and Escape. As an alumnus of this particular vivid learning experience, I can say with some authority that these techniques are uncomfortable, demeaning, and coercive, but hardly constitute my definition of "torture". The training I received there included all of these, as well as more, ah, hands-on techniques. Putting KSM, the 9/11 mastermind, on a waterboard to gain intelligence that may prevent further attacks on American citizens and others is a complete no-brainer, that scum needs to be drained of anything useful and then set out for crab bait. After a fair Military Tribunal, of course.
Ed
:diva: Well now that the "enemy" has at least 3 American prisoners in Iraq do you give them the same authority to waterboard the American soldiers? and do interigations by their deffinition?

I do think it is now fairly impossible for the USA to ask others to follow the Geneva Convention with our Americans as their prisoners.
:cartwheel
 

hvp05

Methodically disorganized
JPC sr said:
do you give them the same authority to waterboard the American soldiers?
Psst... they've already done far worse things... without asking anyone's permission.

JPC sr said:
I do think it is now fairly impossible for the USA to ask others to follow the Geneva Convention with our Americans as their prisoners.
I don't expect them to follow the GC because I know they won't. Death or a cold, solitary prison cell are the only ways to halt their activities.

The only folks that believe the GC applies to terrorists are loons like yourself.
 

edinsomd

New Member
My, you are a moonbat, aren’t you! The only thing I’d give these Islamo-terrorists is a JDAM where the sun don’t shine. Geneva Convention? Please show me where Al Qaeda has signed the Geneva Convention. I hope and pray our forces find these soldiers before they face a fate far worse than any waterboard or stress position.
 

This_person

Well-Known Member
JPC sr said:
Well now that the "enemy" has at least 3 American prisoners in Iraq do you give them the same authority to waterboard the American soldiers? and do interigations by their deffinition?

I do think it is now fairly impossible for the USA to ask others to follow the Geneva Convention with our Americans as their prisoners.
We've talked before about whether this particular enemy is subject to the GC (they're not), and whether they followed it before we ever did anything controversial to any prisoners (they didn't). So, I don't think anyone in power gave them authority to behead on video our people. No one gave them authority to set road side bombs killing untold numbers of Iraqis as well as our people. I could only pray they would limit their treatment of any prisoners of ours they may have to what we do to them. That would be the most humane thing they'd done so far!
 
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tikipirate

Guest
JPC sr said:
:diva: Well now that the "enemy" has at least 3 American prisoners in Iraq do you give them the same authority to waterboard the American soldiers? and do interigations by their deffinition?

I do think it is now fairly impossible for the USA to ask others to follow the Geneva Convention with our Americans as their prisoners.
:cartwheel

Waterboarding is the least of the prisoners' worries, you azzhat. Here's how it really goes... A woman comes up and seductively takes her clothes off. She performs fellatio on the captive. When the captive is erect, a glass tube lubricated with KY jelly is shoved up his urethra. If the captive doesn't spill his guts, the captors smash his glass-filled penis with a hammer.

And learn how to spell.
 

flomaster

J.F. A sus ordenes!
tikipirate said:
Waterboarding is the least of the prisoners' worries, you azzhat. Here's how it really goes... A woman comes up and seductively takes her clothes off. She performs fellatio on the captive. When the captive is erect, a glass tube lubricated with KY jelly is shoved up his urethra. If the captive doesn't spill his guts, the captors smash his glass-filled penis with a hammer.

And learn how to spell.

Gonna save that one for when I can obtain my own terrorist that I can torture. You should be a CIA guy!!!!!!! Glass in the pecker. OUCHIE!!!

:yeahthat:
 

JPC sr

James P. Cusick Sr.
Scofflaw and Personal Responsibility.

JPC sr said:
:drool: The USA doing and promoting torture is commented on by a Marine Corps Commandant,

click HERE for link.

It is a sad situation indeed. :hot:
:jameo: I think people really need to see that Marine Corps General's text as to how well written it is.

Link in the quote above.

See how it is very matter of fact,
and addresses the specific details,
and just how pointed that message is.

The torture and promotion of torture by the Bush administration is criminal gov. :whistle:
 

forestal

I'm the Boss of Me
Why don't you tell it to the families of thousands of dead U.S. soldiers killed by insurgents, insurgents who joined out of sympathy for their friends and family that we have tortured. At this point, because we lost our moral legitimacy at a crucial point, to beat them we have to kill them all (let allah sort them out).



kom526 said:
1) It's corpS not corp
2) Raghead torture is OK? Got tell that to the Pearl (sp) and Berg families.
3) Your posts torture my brain. Why don't you go eat a bullet or something?
 

JPC sr

James P. Cusick Sr.
Scofflaw and Personal Responsibility.

This_person said:
We've talked before about whether this particular enemy is subject to the GC (they're not), and whether they followed it before we ever did anything controversial to any prisoners (they didn't). So, I don't think anyone in power gave them authority to behead on video our people. No one gave them authority to set road side bombs killing untold numbers of Iraqis as well as our people. I could only pray they would limit their treatment of any prisoners of ours they may have to what we do to them. That would be the most humane thing they'd done so far!
:whistle: They already knew how to kill and to brutalize people.

We were to show them the civilized way but did not.

We were to promote the Geneva Convention but did not.

Our American soldiers now in their captivity must tell their name, rank and serial number based on the Geneva Convention and why would the "enemy" listen to American soldiers when our President has already spoken to torture them as prisoners. The use of torture by the USA is indefencible by legal standards.

The Bush administration has made the USA into a criminal government.

P.S. I like that link and info so much I have added it to my campaing website local page, click HERE for link.
:jameo:
 

hvp05

Methodically disorganized
JPC sr said:
P.S. I like that link and info so much I have added it to my campaing website local page, click HERE for link.
:jameo:
You did a good job...
JPC's website said:
story from a retired US Marine Corps Commandant that gives a hard hitting and definitive critique of torture and of the mistake of the Bush administration in the use of torture by the USA and the promotion of torture by the Bush administration.
... in displaying how to write a confusing, ridiculously redundant paragraph.
 

This_person

Well-Known Member
JPC sr said:
:whistle: They already knew how to kill and to brutalize people.
And they did, brutal being the kindest, weakest way of putting it.
We were to show them the civilized way but did not. We were to promote the Geneva Convention but did not.
Do you really believe that if we were nice enough, they'd start to be nice back? Do you REALLY believe that? If so, naive is a kind, weak word to describe that belief.
The Bush administration has made the USA into a criminal government.
I'm sure he's quaking in his boots as the thought of someone making a valid charge. Oh, wait, there isn't one.
 

Bustem' Down

Give Peas a Chance
forestal said:
Why don't you tell it to the families of thousands of dead U.S. soldiers killed by insurgents, insurgents who joined out of sympathy for their friends and family that we have tortured. At this point, because we lost our moral legitimacy at a crucial point, to beat them we have to kill them all (let allah sort them out).
:blahblah:
Stop posting until you know what you are talking about.
 
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