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Chasey_Lane

Salt Life
crabcake said:
Definately have the best rates for auto insurance that I've come across (even against Geico). :yay:
I was with them when I was 17 (Dads plan), but only for about a year. I then went with my own policy and switched to Nationwide. USAA wanted DOUBLE what Nationwide wanted. :faint: I've been with Nationwide since! :yay:
 

migtig

aka Mrs. Giant
itsbob said:
When you say dividend checks, are you referring to life insurance or auto insurance?
Life, home, and auto.

And since I was asked, my second check, which arrived right after Katrina occurred, was indeed donated to charity, because others suffered a greater loss than I did. However, I still don't have any bedroom furniture cause I can't afford any. :lol:
 

Pete

Repete
migtig said:
Life, home, and auto.

And since I was asked, my second check, which arrived right after Katrina occurred, was indeed donated to charity, because others suffered a greater loss than I did. However, I still don't have any bedroom furniture cause I can't afford any. :lol:
You can use my bedroom furniture, if you make a donation to Petezaa :yay:
 

duzzey1a

New Member
I got a letter in the mail that explained about the dividends, but I didn't see a check there. Is there a way to find out if you have received one?
 

Steve

Enjoying life!
Chasey_Lane said:
I was with them when I was 17 (Dads plan), but only for about a year. I then went with my own policy and switched to Nationwide. USAA wanted DOUBLE what Nationwide wanted. :faint: I've been with Nationwide since! :yay:
:yeahthat: We have Nationwide for auto and home. I call GEICO about once every year or two (since 1996) and they can never beat what we pay to Nationwide. And how much are we talking in these USAA dividend checks? Couple of hundred? Less?
 

crabcake

But wait, there's more...
duzzey1a said:
I got a letter in the mail that explained about the dividends, but I didn't see a check there. Is there a way to find out if you have received one?
Yes, call them and ask. If they sent them, and they weren't cashed, they'll see that and can reissue. I believe though that you'll only get dividend checks if you actually pay for something with them (i.e., an auto/home/life/etc. policy). :yay:
 

dustin

UAIOE
crabcake said:
Yes, call them and ask. If they sent them, and they weren't cashed, they'll see that and can reissue. I believe though that you'll only get dividend checks if you actually pay for something with them (i.e., an auto/home/life/etc. policy). :yay:
so you have to make a claim to get a dividend check :confused:
 

crabcake

But wait, there's more...
dustin said:
so you have to make a claim to get a dividend check :confused:
No ... they send them automatically each year. But I found a dividend check from last year that I forgot to deposit, and it was outside the "cash within 120 days" or whatever timeframe is written on the check. I didn't expect them to cut me a new one cuz it was my fault, but when I mentioned it in conversation with the USAA rep while updating my auto/property policies, she said they can pull it up, see which ones were not cashed, and reissue them to me -- no problem. :yay:
 

terbear1225

Well-Known Member
i got a letter from them too but instead ofa check, I got a notice that they had credited money to my account.
 

duzzey1a

New Member
Ok. I gave them a call. They told me that i got a check and it was credited against my account, which has a zero balance. Well gues what? I HIT THE JACKPOT!!!! :yahoo: I GOT A WHOPPING $15 dollars.
 

itsbob

I bowl overhand
Steve said:
:yeahthat: We have Nationwide for auto and home. I call GEICO about once every year or two (since 1996) and they can never beat what we pay to Nationwide. And how much are we talking in these USAA dividend checks? Couple of hundred? Less?

Depends on what the dividend checks are for.. NCOA got in trouble for this a few years ago.. they over priced their life insurance then at the end of the year they'd write you a dividend check for the difference, all the while they are making money off of the overcharge. Of course 15 - 150 doesn't sound like much, but consider how much money they can make at 10% interest if they have 1,000,000 customers. i think State Farm got in trouble for the same practice with Auto Insurance.

Next would be whole life used as an investment tool.. Insurance company takes your money, buys a term policy, then invests all the rest of your money, thay have a cap interest rate that they HAVE to make, anything over that they refund a small percentage back to you, or re-invest into your "cash value".

I sold life insurance for a couple of years.. GREAT money maker and good way to get rich, if you're the one selling it. Work hard for Ten years, then sit back and let the comissions roll in, especially now since most of the insurance companies sell investments, and "universal life" policies.
 

marianne

New Member
MMDad said:
Car insurance didn't work because of one ticket and the one time she was rear ended. Geico ended up being the better deal.

Geico ended up being a better deal for us at one point because USAA had incorrect information in their database on my husband :shrug:. A few years later USAA didn't rely on that anymore and gave us better rates than Geico (except motorcycle rates). Try getting a car insurance quote from USAA two years after the accident - that's the amount of time it seems to take for them to forgive any faults.

About the checks - I was disappointed in ours this year. Past years the check was easily over $100 but this year it was only about $30 and we didn't change much in terms of policies.
 

Pete

Repete
marianne said:
Geico ended up being a better deal for us at one point because USAA had incorrect information in their database on my husband :shrug:. A few years later USAA didn't rely on that anymore and gave us better rates than Geico (except motorcycle rates). Try getting a car insurance quote from USAA two years after the accident - that's the amount of time it seems to take for them to forgive any faults.

About the checks - I was disappointed in ours this year. Past years the check was easily over $100 but this year it was only about $30 and we didn't change much in terms of policies.
I switched to USAA about 8 years ago after years and years with State Farm. Christmas Eve 2002 in a blizzard in Maine I backed through a snow drift and slid down a hill into a tree - $500 damage. Then in Feb 2004 I dinged a Hundai in the parking lot at work - $500 damage. I left a note and notified USAA.

The next renewal time USAA said I had 2 "at fault accidents" and doubled my policy on the truck and bike. Truck went from $700 a year to $1300, bike went from $650 to $1100. They said it would be that way for 3 years. I checked around and GIECO beat them by 50% on the bike. Unfortunately no one would beat them on the truck because of the 2 at fault accidents.

As of last week the 2002 fender bender is over 3 years old. GIECO said next renewal my bike will drop another 30% . I plan on calling USAA and asking them if they are going to lower my truck and how much because the one accident is over 3 years old. If they don't make a huge drop I am going to bid them farewell.

I tried to insure my house with USAA and they were triple what everyone else charged. They said it was because of black mold in Texas or something. Since that time I have gotten about a undred mail solicitations from USAA saying they have revamped homeowners and to try again, figure the odds. I tried to insure my camper with them and they were a bunch higher on that too.

It seems that they only want to insure cars for drivers who never make claims. Loyalty is one thing but I have paid them over $13K for insurance over the years and they have paid out $1000. 13:1 profit margine and they are going to spank me?
 

FromTexas

This Space for Rent
Pete said:
I switched to USAA about 8 years ago after years and years with State Farm. Christmas Eve 2002 in a blizzard in Maine I backed through a snow drift and slid down a hill into a tree - $500 damage. Then in Feb 2004 I dinged a Hundai in the parking lot at work - $500 damage. I left a note and notified USAA.

The next renewal time USAA said I had 2 "at fault accidents" and doubled my policy on the truck and bike. Truck went from $700 a year to $1300, bike went from $650 to $1100. They said it would be that way for 3 years. I checked around and GIECO beat them by 50% on the bike. Unfortunately no one would beat them on the truck because of the 2 at fault accidents.

As of last week the 2002 fender bender is over 3 years old. GIECO said next renewal my bike will drop another 30% . I plan on calling USAA and asking them if they are going to lower my truck and how much because the one accident is over 3 years old. If they don't make a huge drop I am going to bid them farewell.

I tried to insure my house with USAA and they were triple what everyone else charged. They said it was because of black mold in Texas or something. Since that time I have gotten about a undred mail solicitations from USAA saying they have revamped homeowners and to try again, figure the odds. I tried to insure my camper with them and they were a bunch higher on that too.

It seems that they only want to insure cars for drivers who never make claims. Loyalty is one thing but I have paid them over $13K for insurance over the years and they have paid out $1000. 13:1 profit margine and they are going to spank me?

I disagree on the way you view the 13:1, Pete, but before I get to that part let me warn by saying I am biased toward USAA and can understand their trying to keep costs down. We have had two no fault incidents and as long as you don't have more than three no fault incidents over 3 years, your rates don't go up. I had previous insurance where one no fault raised my rates.

As to the dividend comment above yours, the dividend is based on what they had to pay out in the past year to the "profit" they have to pay out. They had Katrina and many other things to pay out this year. Most insurance companies don't pay you out for any amount they overestimated in your coverage (which is essentially what they are doing) they made to you that year. They take the profit.

Now, Pete, you can't claim they have a 13:1 profit for you. Insurance is not an individual calculation. Each year you pay, that money is lumped over all insured individuals caculating a rate to cover payouts, overhead, etc... If you want to caculate your benefit for using USAA, you would find you won by far over those 8 years. Here is why...

1) You were required to maintain insurance. So, you had to pay someone. Thus, you are in the insurance pool. USAA must cover the costs of payouts and overhead plus a little something extra (the rest is returned to you if they dont need it). Insurance is caculated at that rate and spread across the insurance pool (higher rates to those who are "riskier" and lower rates to those who are "safer) so people are paying what has been deemed statistically their fair share.

2) Over 8 years you certainly saved money over every other insurance company. So, you gained a benefit over those 8 years for what you were required to do. If you saved $300 a year over those 8 years that would be $2400 plus your ROR on that $2400 for having it in your pocket at that time. Now, eliminate the truck since you couldn't have saved money on it with any other insurance because of the incidents. That leaves you the bike. Over the three years are you going to save $2400 plus accumulated investment value? I doubt it. All this is a net effect even with 2 at fault incidents. Most other insurance companies would have screwed you both sides of the deal and you also wouldn't get that end of year payout of anything they took extra (which wasn't even caculated above and would have increased your benefit).

Just remember, insurance can't take loyalty into account. It is straight statistics. If they keep it that way, then you will win out over the long haul with USAA's practice of much lower rates during no incident times (or low non fault times) and pretty competitive rates during incident times. If they start deciding based on loyalty, emotion, or anything else about the way they feel a year will play out for someone, they jeopardize the security they provide and the low cost model.

Just MHO...
 

Wickedwrench

Stubborn and opinionated
FromTexas said:
They had Katrina and many other things to pay out this year.
And yet they still sent out financial statements to their investors stating that they had their highest gross profit year in their history.
 

FromTexas

This Space for Rent
Wickedwrench said:
And yet they still sent out financial statements to their investors stating that they had their highest gross profit year in their history.

You're insurance dividend is not calculated based on how the entire USAA company performs. It is calculated on a net return their insurance is supposed to recover, and then you get the rest. But you can go to a company that doesn't pay dividends instead and will probably charge you more. :shrug:
 
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