VanHollen is a POS!

[vraiblonde]

Thing is - I think Trump was unprepared for this avalanche of lunacy the first time around. What does he do this time? I know he has said that success will be his revenge - but I'm concerned it won't be enough.

Sometimes you have to do the right thing no matter how unpopular it is with stupid lazy corrupt people and let the chips fall where they may. If the stupid lazy corrupt people win and put your head on a pike, that's the way it goes. It's not like history isn't rife with stupid lazy corrupt people doing exactly that. Better men and women than any of us have been killed by savages for doing the right thing. I mean, we just had Easter, for Pete's sake.

I've said for years that our government is so effed up we need to burn it down and start over. It's that great little house that the owner started adding on to until it became a shitshow, then neglected it until it started falling apart. Now renovation is impossible and it's a tear down.

 

[vraiblonde]

Only Facebook? That literally happens here too.
It is extremely rare that a posted topic DOESN'T have a post about either Trump or evil Democrats.

It's what the people of this forum are interested in. Through the years I've had complaints that we're too political-centric. I've suggested the complainer start a thread about what they're interested in, and they rarely do. So fine, *I'll* start a thread about something other than politics....and it gets no activity.

It's like back in the day when we had tons of drama and catfight threads. People would be all, "Oh, there's too much drama! " and it was almost always the folks who were right there in the thick of it, either instigating or egging it on.

So now I don't worry about it.

 

[Kyle]

So now I don't worry about it.

… my impression has been that razor is just unhappy unless he’s sitting on a fence picket or wringing his hands and clutching his pearlsover something trivial.

 

[OccamsRazor]

It's what the people of this forum are interested in. Through the years I've had complaints that we're too political-centric. I've suggested the complainer start a thread about what they're interested in, and they rarely do. So fine, *I'll* start a thread about something other than politics....and it gets no activity.

It's like back in the day when we had tons of drama and catfight threads. People would be all, "Oh, there's too much drama! " and it was almost always the folks who were right there in the thick of it, either instigating or egging it on.

So now I don't worry about it.

My point was that political-speak is literally EVERYWHERE. Often infused into every conversation.

 

[Kyle]

My point was that political-speak is literally EVERYWHERE. Often infused into every conversation.

OK… So what do you wanna talk about that isn’t being discussed?

Did you start a thread about it?

 

[OccamsRazor]

… my impression has been that razor is just unhappy unless he’s sitting on a fence picket or wringing his hands and clutching his pearlsover something trivial.

Well, lets be honest about the situation here. This is an electronic forum comprised mostly of middle to older aged people who discuss and lament about the topics of the day or what is going on locally. Nothing will come of it and nothing is really going to change so... in fact, it is ALL trivial.

 

[Kyle]

Well, lets be honest about the situation here. This is an electronic forum comprised mostly of middle to older aged people who discuss and lament about the topics of the day or what is going on locally. Nothing will come of it and nothing is really going to change so... in fact, it is ALL trivial.

So then you just wanna bitch about everyone else bitching about something?

 

[vraiblonde]

My point was that political-speak is literally EVERYWHERE. Often infused into every conversation.

I rarely talk politics in my dirt life, mostly just on the internet. I think that's probably true of most people. When the neighbors and I are standing around yakking in the street we talk about our dogs or our yards or how management needs to clean the pool better.

 

[vraiblonde]

Well, lets be honest about the situation here. This is an electronic forum comprised mostly of middle to older aged people who discuss and lament about the topics of the day or what is going on locally. Nothing will come of it and nothing is really going to change so... in fact, it is ALL trivial.

Most conversation is trivial. It's entertainment.

 

[stgislander]

All of those /(state) subs are leftwing shills. They never talk about the actual state, they just bitch about Trump and spread propaganda.

There was a post on the r/Cumberland_Maryland sub complaining about all the MAGA Trump supporters living there.

 

[SamSpade]

I'm perfectly fine with discussions about Trump and politics - on political and news threads.

It's when you want to talk about parenting - or finance - or gardening - and some schmuck sees yet another reason to inject TRUMP into it.

Years ago, when my mother was alive - she always managed to insert something about her faith and religion into every conversation. I got used to it and honestly, it wasn't actually annoying or insulting. But it got tiresome, and it made me not want to discuss ANYTHING of importance to her, because it would inevitably drift to religion. PERIOD. Conversation was all small talk.

I feel profoundly sorry for people who cannot make it even one hour without a remark about Trump. I think somewhere in their mind they are just "spreading the word" about him by inserting a little jab here and there -

But it really just makes me want to avoid them.

 

[stgislander]

I don't know many places in the world where - in REALITY - this isn't true. Certainly about as good as it gets is, racial or ethnic pride - as say, in Japan, where if it's not Japanese, eff it.

I've certainly noticed that the whole atruistic idea of thinking planet or the globe or the human race SOUNDS noble until someone has to DO something - and then the truth comes out. It becomes, yeah, you first.

Humans are still tribal. JD Vance was correct about expanding circles of altruism.

 

[SamSpade]

There was a post on the r/Cumberland_Maryland sub complaining about all the MAGA Trump supporters living there.

You know, they - the left - do not realize the depth of their prejudice, racism, and general hatred for things that aren't - them.
To them, all right wing persons are dim-witted knuckle draggers - uneducated morons. I read on ALL of these various threads where they lampoon and ridicule "red states" as though every single person in a red state matches their caricature of a right winger.

And the discussion goes - they don't think such persons should have a voice - or vote - or have any say in how laws and the nation should be run.

You know - like high social classes and peerage who disdain "the masses".

 

[SamSpade]

expanding circles of altruism.

I like that. I plan to use it.

 

[OccamsRazor]

So then you just wanna bitch about everyone else bitching about something?

When in Rome...

 

[Gilligan]

There was a post on the r/Cumberland_Maryland sub complaining about all the MAGA Trump supporters living there.

You'll provide some much-needed balance when you move back there.

 

[Gilligan]

Humans are still tribal. JD Vance was correct about expanding circles of altruism.

Some of us are just more enlightened than others.

 

[stgislander]

Some of us are just more enlightened than others.

Yeah... that's it.

 

[vraiblonde]

You know, they - the left - do not realize the depth of their prejudice, racism, and general hatred for things that aren't - them.
To them, all right wing persons are dim-witted knuckle draggers - uneducated morons. I read on ALL of these various threads where they lampoon and ridicule "red states" as though every single person in a red state matches their caricature of a right winger.

And the discussion goes - they don't think such persons should have a voice - or vote - or have any say in how laws and the nation should be run.

You know - like high social classes and peerage who disdain "the masses".

Now I just do it to them. Especially since Trump came on the scene I'm fairly used to people who actually know me - have known me for decades - suddenly deciding I'm a racist misogynist drooling moron, and all that did was make me think differently about them and bid them good riddance when they stomped off in a huff.

 

[SamSpade]

I rarely talk politics in my dirt life, mostly just on the internet. I think that's probably true of most people. When the neighbors and I are standing around yakking in the street we talk about our dogs or our yards or how management needs to clean the pool better.

I guess I realized I'm that way too. IF I do, I tend to talk with people who aren't going to jump all over me if I say something they think is out of line.

Problem is, a lot of those people in real life aren't deeply informed (although typically much more than most people). My previous supervisor was like that. Agreed on most things, but his knowledge wasn't much more than an article or news broadcast.

I get more satisfactory discussion online, because I am engaging with people for whom this is important enough to keep up with. So I am often LEARNING things - unlike a lot of people who feel politics is for TEACHING people.
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But the real reason - for not discussing politics with everyone is -

It's not my life. My life is my kids - my wife and family - things we do and places we go. My future - and theirs.
Politics is not my "religion".