Victory Baptist Church, Charlotte Hall

[Dondi]

How is giving money worshiping god?

I mean, he doesn't need it or anything.

"...Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me." - Matthew 25:40

God owns the universe. No, He doesn't need anything, but what he wants is for us to be unselfish in giving to others out of our abundance, even sometimes out of our lack, which is sacrifice. Tithing is a discipline where you are willing to let go of something you have. That was the problem with the rich man in Matthew 19:16-24. He horded his possessions, and that is not Kingdom living.

BTW, some of the tithes that go into the general fund is set aside for benevolent needs, for such things as when a family member passes and needs some help for the funeral or when some other immediate situation arises. Early in the church, the disciples set up the means for sharing of things common in Acts 4:32-37, to take care of those in need.

 

[itsbob]

As far as tithing, that's between the individual and God, not the pastor or the church. I tithe regularly, but I do so as an act of worship towards God

working part time as pastor, until there is sufficient funds from the generous tithing of the members to allow him to draw a salary so he can direct all his attention to the ministry.


Yes, the churches are tax exempt, as they are not out to make a profit.

Why does the pastor take his 'salary' out of the tithing if as you say it's for God.. and between you and God?

What percentage of the tithing does the pastor get, all of it? Does God give him a comission??

I'd like you to walk through the Vatican and tell me they don't make a profit.

 

[Dondi]

Why does the pastor take his 'salary' out of the tithing if as you say it's for God.. and between you and God?

What percentage of the tithing does the pastor get, all of it? Does God give him a comission??

I'd like you to walk through the Vatican and tell me they don't make a profit.

In the first place, I'm not Catholic, so I have no idea why you would like me to tour the Vatican. This is a thread about Victory Baptist Church.

BTW, I am not a member of Victory Baptist Church, but I know people from there and have reason to believe that their church functions similiarly.

The salary for the pastor is determined by a board of trustees in our church out of the general fund. They factor everything from cost of living increases, housing allowance, medical and dental insurance, and retirement. Our pastor happens to live fairly modestly, not in extravagance. He also has four children with one in college.

When I give tithes, I'm giving to God. Just as the other members give in their conscience to God. Unlike some charities, all the members of the church have access to the monthly and yearly budget statements, which we discuss and vote on in a business meeting every year. The statements also reflect how the funds were allocated and spent in the previous year. So we know how the money is spend. There is accountability and transparency in every cent that is contributed.

 

[rkyner]

A reply from Pastor Kyner
I am pleased that some of of our "bathroom" reading material has been successful in getting into the hands of people in Southern Maryland.
Actually the "plot" was commanded by my Savior, Jesus Himself in the Bible.
Matthew 28:18-20 And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth. (19) Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost: (20) Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you always, even unto the end of the world. Amen.
Since you asked, my latest idea to carry out the "plot" is to put tracs in the sports pages of newpapers when I am finished reading them at lunch in local resturants. Also, myself and other members of the church have been known to leave tracs in many other places for people to read. Hey, you should thank us for providing reading material for you. I hope you were not offended with what you read but you do have a choice.
My wife and I have been known to leave tracs with people at yard sales when we invite people to visit our church and I am pleased to know that people do take notice.
The problem of unclean restrooms is another problem for all of us. The restrooms at the Victory Baptist Church are cleaned every day and fully stocked with paper products and you are invited to visit at any time.

 

[persimmoncf]

It is so funny how a little chit- chat can go FULL circle






Oh and Bless me, Pastor
And Bless you, Pastor

 

[itsbob]

When I give tithes, I'm giving to God. Just as the other members give in their conscience to God. Unlike some charities, all the members of the church have access to the monthly and yearly budget statements, which we discuss and vote on in a business meeting every year. The statements also reflect how the funds were allocated and spent in the previous year. So we know how the money is spend. There is accountability and transparency in every cent that is contributed.

THIS JUST IN!!!


God doesn't need MONEY!!

People do.. You don't give your tithe to God, you give it your church.. your church decides how best to spend it. How that is done is different for each church, but some PERSON(s) (not God) actually spends the money you "gave to God".

Some churches even buy investment property, or even entire companies (Coke).. artwork.. to make money off of your money. They spend a LOT of it on missionary work, so they can find more people to join their church so they too can give their money to God.. and they in turn have MORE money to spend.

A small percentage even goes into humanitarian causes, helping the poor, feeding the homeless..

but God? No, he doesn't need your money.

 

[itsbob]

A reply from Pastor Kyner
I am pleased that some of of our "bathroom" reading material has been successful in getting into the hands of people in Southern Maryland.
Actually the "plot" was commanded by my Savior, Jesus Himself in the Bible.
Matthew 28:18-20 And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth. (19) Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost: (20) Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you always, even unto the end of the world. Amen.
Since you asked, my latest idea to carry out the "plot" is to put tracs in the sports pages of newpapers when I am finished reading them at lunch in local resturants. Also, myself and other members of the church have been known to leave tracs in many other places for people to read. Hey, you should thank us for providing reading material for you. I hope you were not offended with what you read but you do have a choice.
My wife and I have been known to leave tracs with people at yard sales when we invite people to visit our church and I am pleased to know that people do take notice.
The problem of unclean restrooms is another problem for all of us. The restrooms at the Victory Baptist Church are cleaned every day and fully stocked with paper products and you are invited to visit at any time.

Sounds like you and your church goers are doing an awful lot of littering.

 

[kris31280]

A reply from Pastor Kyner
I am pleased that some of of our "bathroom" reading material has been successful in getting into the hands of people in Southern Maryland.
Actually the "plot" was commanded by my Savior, Jesus Himself in the Bible.
Matthew 28:18-20 And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth. (19) Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost: (20) Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you always, even unto the end of the world. Amen.
Since you asked, my latest idea to carry out the "plot" is to put tracs in the sports pages of newpapers when I am finished reading them at lunch in local resturants. Also, myself and other members of the church have been known to leave tracs in many other places for people to read. Hey, you should thank us for providing reading material for you. I hope you were not offended with what you read but you do have a choice.
My wife and I have been known to leave tracs with people at yard sales when we invite people to visit our church and I am pleased to know that people do take notice.
The problem of unclean restrooms is another problem for all of us. The restrooms at the Victory Baptist Church are cleaned every day and fully stocked with paper products and you are invited to visit at any time.

HAHAHAHAHAHA.... Ok... now that was just funny.

"Hey don't go to BJs and use the bathroom, come and use ours because they're clean! And I know that it's bizzarre that twice over things were gross in that bathroom, but that's God's master plan! Oh, and have some reading material!"

Speak again, oh bright angel, that I may laugh some more.