Virginia Tech

[Mateo]

It deserves to be news, as does the ceremony. But please, just spare me of the changing the world comments.

Kaine saying that just left a bad taste in my mouth. And, unfortanently, the media ran this story way into overdrive.

I'm sorry that this incident occured also, but VT is not special as it has been made out to be.
I have a neice who graduated from VT and she acted as if she was nobility of some sort and therefore was entitled to succeed. That she didn't infuriated her and she has been nothing else but sullen towards people because she felt she didn't get the break that VT was supposed to give her.
I also remember a game between VT and Maryland a couple years ago, when a injured Maryland player was carried off the field, he was harangued by a number of gleefulVT students, who should have respected that though an opposing player, this was not the way to treat him.
I won't even touch the example of Michael Vick .
I realize that these people are only a very small mote compared to the majority of students that attend VT, but nevertheless, the perceptions left are not good, and n the case of the injured MD player, should have been apologized for by the VT team.
However, beating a dead horse beyond its death is not a good thing. As mentioned, our 4000 dead countrymen and women in Iraq and Afghanistan hardly raise a whimper in comparison. Are they not as worthy to think that they also may have made a difference? Is it because, instead of being priviledged as the VT students are, these are young men and women who may have made that choice to serve the country may have postponed their own college plans because this was the only way to acheive that goal ?
I reiterate that I don't disparage the memory of those killed by a deranged student. It is a private moment for those students and their families and the rest of us need to move on and likewaise tell the media to shelve it.
We should again remember our own war dead first and foremost. They ARE making a difference.

 

[AndyMarquisLIVE]

I have a neice who graduated from VT and she acted as if she was nobility of some sort and therefore was entitled to succeed. That she didn't infuriated her and she has been nothing else but sullen towards people because she felt she didn't get the break that VT was supposed to give her.

I don't think where you go to school makes as much a difference as what you do with your education.

I can't afford a VT or UMD. And, I refuse to take out a student loan (especially in this economy).

 

[Mateo]

I don't think where you go to school makes as much a difference as what you do with your education.

I can't afford a VT or UMD. And, I refuse to take out a student loan (especially in this economy).

I agree that what you do is much more important then where you went. My point is that she felt herself a peg above others because she went to VT and therefore was entitled to the better things in life because of it. An excellent example of having book learning but no common sense,
Don't blame you for not taking out a student loan,,shows you are responsible and mature enough not to get yourself in dutch . I went to school on the GI Bill back when it was still an excellent program. I didn't go to an Ivy League or similar college, but I did get a good education.

 

[Geek]

I'm not saying they weren't.

But their accomplishments, likely, wouldn't have changed the world. Unless they invented a cure for the common cold, their affect, positive as it may be, is only minor.

I'm sure they were all great people - I just hate how everytime someone dies these people come up with the overdramatic stuff.

I guess the truth is, overall, I'm sick of hearing about Virginia Tech.

For the past year, everyone's about changing gun laws and everything else because of Virginia Tech (which was a gun-free zone in the first place).

Call me cynical or whatever, but there have been much more important stories in the past year than Virginia Tech. Still, everywhere I go, everyone has to stick the VT ribbon in my face.

Small actions can change the world. Your youth is showing with this foolish opinion.

 

[BuddyLee]

If I die, and somebody says at my funeral that I would've changed the world with my actions, please do me one last favor and shoot them.

Well, you really do.

Any action, no matter how small does have an effect on the world.

Prove me wrong.

 

[BuddyLee]

The kind of person that changes the world stands up and does something, they don't sit there and wait to get gunned down.

Who said they were even sitting...waiting for the bullet to hit them?

Maybe they were running. Maybe they were trying to stop the shooter. If you weren't there you just don't know.

 

[Geek]

Well, you really do.

Any action, no matter how small does have an effect on the world.

Prove me wrong.

This event doesn't effect Andy's little world. His outlook is similar to a toddler. It's actually amazing.

 

[AndyMarquisLIVE]

This event doesn't effect Andy's little world.

It didn't affect me, at all.

Tell me, how did Virginia Tech directly affect you?

 

[godsbutterfly]

The saying might have been a bit over dramatic but the truth of it is that every single kid that was killed a year ago was unfairly robbed of the chance to "Change the World". Some kid still in school just proved NASA wrong so who knows what one of these kids might have done?

 

[BuddyLee]

This event doesn't effect Andy's little world. His outlook is similar to a toddler. It's actually amazing.

Oh yeah, I forgot about that.

Him and PricklyGoo are in their own little internet battle royale world. I just can't wait until they take each other out with the steel chair.

 

[BuddyLee]

It didn't affect me, at all.

Tell me, how did Virginia Tech directly affect you?

That's the point. You may not know how it may have affected you directly or indirectly in some major or minor way.

You say it didn't affect you in some way but yet you're posting about it.

 

[AndyMarquisLIVE]

Oh yeah, I forgot about that.

Him and PricklyGoo are in their own little internet battle royale world. I just can't wait until they take each other out with the steel chair.

Yep. Not centering my life over some people who died at a college I don't go to makes me a bad person. Okay. I guess I should go out and cover my room with VT gear and say "Go Hokies" to avoid going to hell.

It didn't affect you. Kids die in car accidents every day. We have more than 3,000 dead soldiers in this war. My brother's been over in that war. But I should care more about what happened over a year ago at VT?

Quit the Mickey Mouse crap people.

 

[AndyMarquisLIVE]

That's the point. You may not know how it may have affected you directly or indirectly in some major or minor way.

You say it didn't affect you in some way but yet you're posting about it.

It was an observation. You post you observations about the football games but it doesn't affect your life in any major way. :shrug:

I thought the Governor's statement was way over the top. He cares nothing about those people. He made an unfair overstatement that will get him a spot on the 6 o'clock news for a few weeks.

And, quite honestly, it made me think a whole lot less of the situation. Got me to thinking that this whole thing isn't important in the big picture... That comment, especially, got me to that. I've seen and heard a lot of things said about VT, and that one comment just stuck out at me like a sore thumb, kind of like when some football announcer says something that might stick out at you.

 

[godsbutterfly]

Yep. Not centering my life over some people who died at a college I don't go to makes me a bad person. Okay. I guess I should go out and cover my room with VT gear and say "Go Hokies" to avoid going to hell.

It didn't affect you. Kids die in car accidents every day. We have more than 3,000 dead soldiers in this war. My brother's been over in that war. But I should care more about what happened over a year ago at VT?

Quit the Mickey Mouse crap people.

Okay, if some lunatic with mental problems strolls into one of the classrooms or schools where you are and starts blowing people away because his kid didn't get picked to be the Line Leader and he himself just got fired so he hates the world and 32 people die at that school should we feel the same way? I'm not sorry to say I just have too much heart to be that unfeeling, Andy.

 

[BuddyLee]

Yep. Not centering my life over some people who died at a college I don't go to makes me a bad person. Okay. I guess I should go out and cover my room with VT gear and say "Go Hokies" to avoid going to hell.

Whoever said that? I'm waiting.

It didn't affect you. Kids die in car accidents every day. We have more than 3,000 dead soldiers in this war. My brother's been over in that war. But I should care more about what happened over a year ago at VT?

Quit the Mickey Mouse crap people.

No one is making more out of one thing than another. Unless, of course, you're talking about the media. If you follow the media closely and religiously then you have other problems to work out.

You don't need to care about anything, really. To say that it doesn't have an affect on you in even the most minute way is just being obtuse to the world around you.

 

[AndyMarquisLIVE]

Okay, if some lunatic with mental problems strolls into one of the classrooms or schools where you are and starts blowing people away because his kid didn't get picked to be the Line Leader and he himself just got fired so he hates the world and 32 people die at that school should we feel the same way? I'm not sorry to say I just have too much heart to be that unfeeling, Andy.

I did my grieving, I prayed for the families victims. Nothing more I can do. :shrug:

I'm sorry for their losses, it was a sad situation, but it's been a year and I've got better things to worry about.

3 volunteer firefighters were killed in a wildfire in Colorado, on this day. They gave up their lives trying to prevent destruction of someone else's property or even someone else's life for little or no pay. Actions like that are noble deeds.

But, I don't see Tim Kaine and the LSM going on harping about how they could've changed the world.

 

[BuddyLee]

It was an observation. You post you observations about the football games but it doesn't affect your life in any major way. :shrug:

Perhaps. I could have read a book or done something else with my time. It might affect me in a major way or a minor way. I just don't know because there are a million choices in a day and they all blend in together. They all have an undeniable affect on me and those around me though. Sometimes they have an affect on those far away from me.

I thought the Governor's statement was way over the top. He cares nothing about those people. He made an unfair overstatement that will get him a spot on the 6 o'clock news for a few weeks.

And, quite honestly, it made me think a whole lot less of the situation. Got me to thinking that this whole thing isn't important in the big picture... That comment, especially, got me to that. I've seen and heard a lot of things said about VT, and that one comment just stuck out at me like a sore thumb, kind of like when some football announcer says something that might stick out at you.

I don't have any problem with that. I don't think the government should have given the families any money. I don't think the media should be covering it as much as they have. We basically agree on all these issues. The media and government suck Jupiters balls when looking at this particular situation.

 

[MMDad]

If you follow the media closely and religiously then you have other problems to work out.

Very wise, grasshopper.

Andy, read what BuddyLee said here. Read it over and over again.

 

[Geek]

I did my grieving, I prayed for the families victims. Nothing more I can do. :shrug:

I'm sorry for their losses, it was a sad situation, but it's been a year and I've got better things to worry about.

3 volunteer firefighters were killed in a wildfire in Colorado, on this day. They gave up their lives trying to prevent destruction of someone else's property or even someone else's life for little or no pay. Actions like that are noble deeds.

But, I don't see Tim Kaine and the LSM going on harping about how they could've changed the world.

And that is where your limited range of experience comes into play. There is always more you can do. You can honor people by enjoying your day, living your best life, doing something to celebrate their life and yours.

 

[sommpd]

"The world was cheated of these lives and the accomplishments these extrodinary individuals would have made."

Oh gawd. Here we go with the, they wouldve changed the world, crap.

If I die, and somebody says at my funeral that I would've changed the world with my actions, please do me one last favor and shoot them.

Wow, that is pretty cold hearted. I don't know, but there is a chance one of these brilliant minds going to a great school of engineering may have changed the world?