Virus created in a lab in China

kom526

They call me ... Sarcasmo
Oh yeah, and please explain to me how Wuhan shot-gunned so many infected to countries and cities all over the world, yet China only had Wuhan to worry about. Why weren't their big cities hit?

Wuhan International Airport
Return from Chinese New Year travel
Level 4 Bio Lab
Missing research doctors
Dead doctors and virologists
State run media
 

jazz lady

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Something I stumbled upon yesterday. Coincidence?

Federal prosecutors have brought charges against Harvard University’s Department of Chemistry and Chemical Biology chair for lying to the Defense Department about money he received from China’s Wuhan University of Technology. As reported by NBC News:

Charles M. Lieber, the chair of Harvard’s Department of Chemistry and Chemical Biology, allegedly violated federal law by not disclosing his involvement in China’s Thousand Talents Plan to the Defense Department, including money he received, according to the charging document.

“The charges brought by the U.S. government against Professor Lieber are extremely serious,” Harvard said in a statement. “Harvard is cooperating with federal authorities, including the National Institutes of Health, and is initiating its own review of the alleged misconduct.”

The documents presented by federal prosecutors on Tuesday allege that Lieber was paid $50,000 monthly, along with $158,000 in living expenses and $1.74 million to set up a research lab at Wuhan University.

 

jazz lady

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This is the first I've seen of this story that should be on every front page and leading every TV news show.
I totally agree and I literally gasped when I started reading it. But it was buried deep on some website last night and curiously I clicked on it. IMHO, right there is the smoking gun.
 

kom526

They call me ... Sarcasmo
This is the first I've seen of this story that should be on every front page and leading every TV news show.
I read about this guy and the program a couple of weeks ago. If he is found guilty of any wrong doing pertaining to this Wuhan Flu I would like to make the recommendation for the punishment. Unfortunately, it would violate every law known to man and nature so I can't spell it out here.
 

SamSpade

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California 14,336 total cases 343 deaths
Maryland 4,371 total cases 103 deaths.

I find it hard to believe CA only had 10k more cases than little ole MD.

Actually I find it fascinating that the two sets of numbers scale so well. California has roughly 3.33 times as many cases and the same ratio for death.
But it has almost exactly twice that ratio in population.

Then again as almost everyone overlooks on TV - geography, infrastructure, climate, mobility, age, demographics, population density and especially co-morbidities - they all factor into the spread of the virus. Your typical Californian is about 20% likely to be obese; your typical resident of New York City is better than 60% likely to be obese. Southern California tends to be fairly warm all year round, and respiratory diseases have a number of factors which inhibit its spread in warm dry environments.

It doesn't surprise me in the least that the most densely populated parts of Maryland have the highest RATES of infection. That follows.
 
Actually I find it fascinating that the two sets of numbers scale so well. California has roughly 3.33 times as many cases and the same ratio for death.
But it has almost exactly twice that ratio in population.

Then again as almost everyone overlooks on TV - geography, infrastructure, climate, mobility, age, demographics, population density and especially co-morbidities - they all factor into the spread of the virus. Your typical Californian is about 20% likely to be obese; your typical resident of New York City is better than 60% likely to be obese. Southern California tends to be fairly warm all year round, and respiratory diseases have a number of factors which inhibit its spread in warm dry environments.

It doesn't surprise me in the least that the most densely populated parts of Maryland have the highest RATES of infection. That follows.
I read the west coast virus is a different strain. Than the east coast. They act/attack differently. The east coast strain came from Europe and us the strongest of the two.
 

SamSpade

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I read the west coast virus is a different strain. Than the east coast. They act/attack differently. The east coast strain came from Europe and us the strongest of the two.

That's interesting. I haven't heard anything like that.
 

SamSpade

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I wanted to understand why the east coast was taking a bigger beating than the west. I visited scientific websites for non-biased insight. Now I understand.

Glad you did. But I also think other factors are playing into it as well. California is hot and dry; New York is - for the moment - cold and wet. Californians are young and more active; New Yorkers are less so, more likely to have any of a host of co-morbidities. Los Angeles is heavily populated but spread out - New York and northern Jersey is very densely populated, and they ride subways, trains and buses where they're packed in like sardines. Californians don't live in high rise buildings where the air is constantly recirculated. Lots of stuff. New York City is a freaking Petri dish.
 
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