Warning speed traps in the morning

Htdfb

New Member
Hey just wanted to let everyone know that the police are out in force. I just got stopped by one of St Mary's Finest and they said they are out on a special enforcement detail and that any violation of the law will be strictly enforced and they will be doing this for awhile. They are all in the area around the base and I think I saw some more down my the airport. I got stopped on Great Mills Rd. GOOD LUCK ON YOUR DRIVE INTO WORK.
 

bcp

In My Opinion
Why would you warn of speed traps?
Speeding is what causes the accidents, those speeding should be corrected.

I never warn. ever.
 

glhs837

Power with Control
Actually, poor driving causes most crashes. And this enforcement has more to do with being visible to citizens, and generating numbers of citations issued than preventing crashes, I believe.
 

Htdfb

New Member
Good so if that is the case I just helped the police by letting everyone know that they are Doing "special attention enforcement"! Now people will drive slow... Duh! And you don't say anything because you are a brown noser! Ha
 

bcp

In My Opinion
Good so if that is the case I just helped the police by letting everyone know that they are Doing "special attention enforcement"! Now people will drive slow... Duh! And you don't say anything because you are a brown noser! Ha

I dont say anything because I hate tailgaters, and tailgaters are most often speeders.
I like to see them get tickets. It makes me smile.

Now, I have been the proud owner of a speeding ticket, matter of fact, I got one as recently as 1986. 70 in a 55.
 

CrashTest

Well-Known Member
I dont say anything because I hate tailgaters, and tailgaters are most often speeders.
I like to see them get tickets. It makes me smile.

Now, I have been the proud owner of a speeding ticket, matter of fact, I got one as recently as 1986. 70 in a 55.

I tailgate all the time but never speed. I tailgate because you have to. If you leave a gap, someone will try and fill it and that causes crashes.
 
Speeding does cause problems because it disrupts what should be the normal flow of traffic. If everyone obeyed the posted speed limit, there would be natural gaps in traffic allowing people space to enter the flow of traffic, there would be no tailgating because you would be going the same speed as the car in front of you and you wouldn't have other cars darting in and out trying to get ahead of the next car and then the next and the next... etc.

I have no problem with the state of Maryland issue tickets to those who chose to break the law as a means of increasing revenue.
 

bcp

In My Opinion
I tailgate all the time but never speed. I tailgate because you have to. If you leave a gap, someone will try and fill it and that causes crashes.

On one hand I have to agree with you, leave a space and some ass is going to use it to cut fast across 3 lanes, or fly into it then jam his brakes to keep from hitting the car in front of you etc...
On the other hand, tailgaters take attention away from the car in front, you have someone riding up your backside and you now have to keep an eye on them, and the cars in front to insure that if you do have to stop quick, you can give numbnuts enough time to stop without hitting you. And this can cause accidents.
Kwillia is right, if people were to actually drive according to the laws and posted limits, none of this would be an issue. In your own words, you are adjusting your driving to an unsafe level in order to make up for those that drive in a less safe manner than you.
 

awpitt

Main Streeter
Why would you warn of speed traps?
Speeding is what causes the accidents, those speeding should be corrected.

I never warn. ever.

That's a myth.

Lack of attention. Improper lane changes. Failure to use turn signals. Not having headlights on. Texting. Putting on make up. These sort of things cause accidents.
 

bcp

In My Opinion
That's a myth.

Lack of attention. Improper lane changes. Failure to use turn signals. Not having headlights on. Texting. Putting on make up. These sort of things cause accidents.

speeding has nothing to do with accidents?
 

CrashTest

Well-Known Member
That's a myth.

Lack of attention. Improper lane changes. Failure to use turn signals. Not having headlights on. Texting. Putting on make up. These sort of things cause accidents.

You forgot one thing. Slamming on your brakes because you see a speed trap ahead also causes them. That's the exact reason why in California, they can't use radar on state roads or Interstates. Too dangerous.
 

bcp

In My Opinion
You forgot one thing. Slamming on your brakes because you see a speed trap ahead also causes them. That's the exact reason why in California, they can't use radar on state roads or Interstates. Too dangerous.

I never understood slamming the brakes because you see a speed trap.
With the looks, and the actions of the speeders when they pass you, it is evident that they think they are perfectly in the right with the speed they are doing.
By the speeders own standards, shouldn't I floor it when I see a speed trap?

Or, is this their way of telling me that Yes, I am correct with the way I drive.
 

glhs837

Power with Control
Bcp, nobody said speed has nothing to do with accidents, did they? Getting in your car has something to do with crashes:) We said speed doenst cause most crashes. And the NHTSA themselves is the source of that data. Like %3 of crashes have speed as the primary cause. Kwilla, we didn't say that speed doesn't cause problems, but do yourself a favor. Most folks speed to some degree. And that doesn't cuase problems, its the ones who speed stupidly (far outside the average speed) that are dangreous. But folks below the average speed are just as dangerous.
 
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bcp

In My Opinion
Old people cause accidents....:whistle:

Car Crash Statistics Based on Age

Teens = Highest Risk Group: For every mile driven, teens between the ages of 16 and 19 are four times as likely to be involved in a car crash
Teenage Car Fatalities: 5,000 teens in the 16 to 20 age group die each year as a result of a car crash
Teenage Car Injuries: 400,000 teens in the same age group are injured each year in car accidents
Disproportionate Population / Fatality Ratio: Teens make up 10% of the population but represent 12% of car crash fatalities
Cost: 30% or $26 billion per year in costs are accounted for by drivers under the age of 24
Driving Habits: Teenagers are more likely to speed, tailgate and only 10% report wearing seatbelts
Teen Male Drivers: Of male drivers ages 15 to 20 killed in car crashes, 38% were speeding and 24% were under the influence of alcohol
High Risk Age Groups: People between the ages of 15 and 24 and over 75 are the groups most likely affected by car accidents
Senior Drivers: Drivers over the age of 65 are second most likely to die in a car crash
Safety Disparity: Despite the fact that older drivers are on average slower, safer drivers, they are more likely to die in a car accident than younger drivers

Old people have a greater chance of dying in a crash due to existing health problems to start with. Old people dont heal as quickly, if at all.
 

awpitt

Main Streeter
speeding has nothing to do with accidents?

Traveling at an unsafe speed can increase the severity of an accident and can be a contributing cause. That is different than "speeding". Traveling down Chancellors Run Road at 50mph is speeding; however, it's not traveling at an unsafe speed.
 

bcp

In My Opinion
Nobody said that, did they? Getting in your car has something to do with crashes:) We said speed doenst cause most crashes. And the NHTSA themselves is the source of that data. Like %3 of crashes have speed as the primary cause. Kwilla, we didn't say that speed doesn't cause problems, but do yourself a favor. Most folks speed to some degree. And that doesn't cuase problems, its the ones who speed stupidly (far outside the average speed) that are dangreous. But folks below the posted speed are just as dangerous.

Fixed it. and the posted speed is the maximum speed for ideal conditions, so, if its raining, the posted speed might be high for those conditions. To put it in terms that people might understand better.
lets say the speed on the road is 55 mph, in good weather, the road can certainly handle 70, but lets put some snow, say 6 inches on the roadway, do we still do 55? or do we drop it down a bit to make up for those conditions?

Edited to add this.
I will not argue that the posted speed is too low on many roads. But at the same time it is also too high on some other roads.
 
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