Warning speed traps in the morning

[kwillia]

Traveling down Chancellors Run Road at 50mph is speeding; however, it's not traveling at an unsafe speed.

The posted speed limit was derived as the maximum safe speed for road conditions not only to satisfy the dude driving from one end of the road to the other, but for the several other cars that are also navigating onto and off that road as well as many other factors. You flying over a hill exceeding the speed limit is most certainly more of a danger to others than someone doing the posted speed limit.

 

[RoseRed]

I admit it, I am a speeder but not a tailgater. That being said, the commute to the base this morning was ridiculous. I was traveling at about 60mph in the center lane and was passed by 3-4 pickups and SUVs weaving in and out of all three lanes like I was sitting still. Too bad the speed trap wasn't in effect at that early hour.

And don't tailgate me, I can only go as fast, or slow, as the car traveling in front of me...

 

[bcp]

Traveling at an unsafe speed can increase the severity of an accident and can be a contributing cause. That is different than "speeding". Traveling down Chancellors Run Road at 50mph is speeding; however, it's not traveling at an unsafe speed.

I am not familiar with Chancellors Run Road, so I cant speak about it.

but lets take 214 for instance.
My driveway enters directly on to 214. Speed limit in front of the driveway is 50.
right before my drive is the crest of a hill,
People generally try to drive this section at 60 or 70 mph. They feel it is a safe speed.
Now, when I pull out of my driveway, I have to floor it if I head east because someone might be coming over the crest at 70 mph. I dont have the only driveway that comes out on this road.
I equate it to me driving at 50 through a neighborhood while people are trying to pull out of their driveways.

What you think is safe might not be safe if you see it from a different viewpoint.

 

[kwillia]

I am not familiar with Chancellors Run Road, so I cant speak about it.

but lets take 214 for instance.
My driveway enters directly on to 214. Speed limit in front of the driveway is 50.
right before my drive is the crest of a hill,
People generally try to drive this section at 60 or 70 mph. They feel it is a safe speed.
Now, when I pull out of my driveway, I have to floor it if I head east because someone might be coming over the crest at 70 mph. I dont have the only driveway that comes out on this road.
I equate it to me driving at 50 through a neighborhood while people are trying to pull out of their driveways.

What you think is safe might not be safe if you see it from a different viewpoint.

Exactly my point!

 

[awpitt]

The posted speed limit was derived as the maximum safe speed for road conditions not only to satisfy the dude driving from one end of the road to the other, but for the several other cars that are also navigating onto and off that road as well as many other factors. You flying over a hill exceeding the speed limit is most certainly more of a danger to others than someone doing the posted speed limit.

Yes, someone "flying" down Chancellors at 60mph would be traveling at an unsafe speed for that road. Driving at 50mph on Chancellors is not an unsafe speed but it is "speeding".

 

[RoseRed]

Traffic Safety Initiative Underway in St. Mary’s | Southern Maryland News Net

The St. Mary’s County Sheriff’s Office Special Operations Division, in cooperation with the Maryland State Police, Leonardtown Barrack, is conducting a Traffic Safety Initiative to address numerous traffic safety-related issues.

 

[kwillia]

Yes, someone "flying" down Chancellors at 60mph would be traveling at an unsafe speed for that road. Driving at 50mph on Chancellors is not an unsafe speed but it is "speeding".

Awww... you think you get to make up your own "safe" max speeds... how cute is that?

 

[awpitt]

I am not familiar with Chancellors Run Road, so I cant speak about it.

but lets take 214 for instance.
My driveway enters directly on to 214. Speed limit in front of the driveway is 50.
right before my drive is the crest of a hill,
People generally try to drive this section at 60 or 70 mph. They feel it is a safe speed.
Now, when I pull out of my driveway, I have to floor it if I head east because someone might be coming over the crest at 70 mph. I dont have the only driveway that comes out on this road.
I equate it to me driving at 50 through a neighborhood while people are trying to pull out of their driveways.

What you think is safe might not be safe if you see it from a different viewpoint.

What you've described is an example of traveling at an unsafe speed and speeding.

 

[awpitt]

Awww... you think you get to make up your own "safe" max speeds... how cute is that?

The SHA often sets the speed limit below what would be the maximum safe speed for a given road.

 

[puggymom]

And don't tailgate me, I can only go as fast, or slow, as the car traveling in front of me...

That drives me CRAZY!!

 

[kwillia]

The SHA often sets the speed limit below what would be the maximum safe speed for a given road.

But it is the law and therefore should be the expected max speed for those using that road. Do I get to go to Target and say, "I know that is your posted price, but I know you marked it up so I'm only going to pay x amount for it." Nope.

If you chose to speed than you accept the consequences of speeding when you get ticketed.

 

[TPD]

My observation is that a lot of drivers do not look far enough ahead of them while driving to anticipate what may happen. I believe most drivers are only watching the car immediately in front of them. I am always looking a quarter to half mile in front of me, giving me plenty of time to react to a change. If you are a tailgater, you should be using this technique - it could avoid some rear end collisions for you.

 

[DEEKAYPEE8569]

I tailgate all the time but never speed. I tailgate because you have to. If you leave a gap, someone will try and fill it and that causes crashes.

DING!DING!DING!DING! It doesn't matter what time of the day it is, either.
I get over into the lane I'll be turning from, as soon as possible; and I leave a car length or two between me and the car in front of me.
Anymore, that's just an invitation for someone to cut you off if he/she has a bumper's length on you.

Last night on my way home I got cut off three times that I counted.
People just turn in front of you; no signal; no mirror check; no "thank you wave" nothin'. They just come on over. NOT quoting Shania btw.

 

[RoseRed]

DING!DING!DING!DING! It doesn't matter what time of the day it is, either.
I get over into the lane I'll be turning from, as soon as possible; and I leave a car length or two between me and the car in front of me.
Anymore, that's just an invitation for someone to cut you off if he/she has a bumper's length on you.

Last night on my way home I got cut off three times that I counted.
People just turn in front of you; no signal; no mirror check; no "thank you wave" nothin'. They just come on over. NOT quoting Shania btw.

What about the yahoos that don't think they need to yield to oncoming traffic? I had one that refused to yield to me when I had the green light, traveling S/B on 235 at Wildewood. He came out of Wildewood and just kept up at the same speed as I on the shoulder of the road, after the merge lane ended. I suppose he was expecting me to slow down and let him merge into traffic. Umm, no.

 

[DEEKAYPEE8569]

What about the yahoos that don't think they need to yield to oncoming traffic? I had one that refused to yield to me when I had the green light, traveling S/B on 235 at Wildewood. He came out of Wildewood and just kept up at the same speed as I on the shoulder of the road, after the merge lane ended. I suppose he was expecting me to slow down and let him merge into traffic. Umm, no.

Well, I will say that merging into traffic on 235 is tough to begin with.
That said, many folks just don't know HOW to merge into traffic. The realization is just not there, that when you pull into oncoming traffic; 1) leave enough distance so you don't pull out and hit somebody and 2) After you pull out into traffic move your a**
That is another contributor to the increase in rear-end-collisions lately; that and TWD. Oh yeah.....it would've been nice if you could've PIT-ed him huh? He couldn't say he was "rear-ended" if you caught his right rear 1/4.

 

[MMM_donuts]

Hey just wanted to let everyone know that the police are out in force. I just got stopped by one of St Mary's Finest and they said they are out on a special enforcement detail and that any violation of the law will be strictly enforced and they will be doing this for awhile. They are all in the area around the base and I think I saw some more down my the airport. I got stopped on Great Mills Rd. GOOD LUCK ON YOUR DRIVE INTO WORK.

I'm glad they're out there and I hope they actually get an opportunity to enforce some traffic laws. I'm also ok with you letting everyone know, too, because I hope it encourages at least a few people to pay a little more attention to what they're doing.....sounds like a win for everyone....although it'll probably ruin the day of the people that get caught doing the less-than-legal stuff they're used to doing because it's rarely enforced. We all know what we've been getting away with.

 

[bresamil]

Well there went my plans to drive 235 today. I don't want to get distracted by the radio, go a few miles over the limit, and get a ticket. I'll do my errands tomorrow.

 

[RoseRed]

Well, I will say that merging into traffic on 235 is tough to begin with.
That said, many folks just don't know HOW to merge into traffic. The realization is just not there, that when you pull into oncoming traffic; 1) leave enough distance so you don't pull out and hit somebody and 2) After you pull out into traffic move your a**
That is another contributor to the increase in rear-end-collisions lately; that and TWD. Oh yeah.....it would've been nice if you could've PIT-ed him huh? He couldn't say he was "rear-ended" if you caught his right rear 1/4.

What he should have done, was wait for a break in traffic in order to merge into it. Not pace me at my green light highway speed on the shoulder of the road expecting me to yield to him. How hard is that to understand? Dumbass.

 

[DEEKAYPEE8569]

What he should have done, was wait for a break in traffic in order to merge into it. Not pace me at my green light highway speed on the shoulder of the road expecting me to yield to him. How hard is that to understand? Dumbass.

Heeey?? What'd I ever do to you??

 

[RoseRed]

Heeey?? What'd I ever do to you??