'Was Beethoven Black?': Bizarre post claims composer was African, Internet says 'history is being whitewashed'

[GURPS]

Beethoven was born in Bonn, Germany, to Johann van Beethoven and Maria Magdalena Keverich. The prefix van before Beethoven hints at the family's Flemish heritage, while the family surname Beethoven suggests that the family was involved with beetroot farming at some point. This is often coupled with descriptions of Beethoven being nicknamed “Spaniard” or “Moor” because of his dark complexion and certain portraits of the composer which show him with very dark skin.

A screenshot from a website called The Concordian claims that Beethoven was actually a black man. It says, "Ludwig van Beethoven was of African descent, and the truth of his ethnic origins was covered up through a mixture of white powder worn on his face when out in public, the use of body doubles for portrait and “euro-centric” historians, hiding the truth of his genetic heritage." Soon, Beethoven became a trending topic on Twitter, with users thrashing the education system for withholding this key piece of information from them and slamming the historians for "whitewashing" the history.

A user tweeted, "Wait was beethoven black and our f**ing history books really tried to make him white. is this a joke or like is it a conspiracy type sht OR IS THIS ACTUALLY REAL BC I WOULD NOT BE SURPRISED." Another user wrote, "I was today years old when i found out that Beethoven possibly wasn’t white and historical accounts stating that he was dark skinned and may have possibly been black!! Go figure they white washed history and his portraits."

https://meaww.com/ludwig-van-beetho...et-theory-history-whitewashed-composer-powder

 

[Hijinx]

Beethoven was born in Bonn, Germany, to Johann van Beethoven and Maria Magdalena Keverich. The prefix van before Beethoven hints at the family's Flemish heritage, while the family surname Beethoven suggests that the family was involved with beetroot farming at some point. This is often coupled with descriptions of Beethoven being nicknamed “Spaniard” or “Moor” because of his dark complexion and certain portraits of the composer which show him with very dark skin.

A screenshot from a website called The Concordian claims that Beethoven was actually a black man. It says, "Ludwig van Beethoven was of African descent, and the truth of his ethnic origins was covered up through a mixture of white powder worn on his face when out in public, the use of body doubles for portrait and “euro-centric” historians, hiding the truth of his genetic heritage." Soon, Beethoven became a trending topic on Twitter, with users thrashing the education system for withholding this key piece of information from them and slamming the historians for "whitewashing" the history.

A user tweeted, "Wait was beethoven black and our f**ing history books really tried to make him white. is this a joke or like is it a conspiracy type sht OR IS THIS ACTUALLY REAL BC I WOULD NOT BE SURPRISED." Another user wrote, "I was today years old when i found out that Beethoven possibly wasn’t white and historical accounts stating that he was dark skinned and may have possibly been black!! Go figure they white washed history and his portraits."

https://meaww.com/ludwig-van-beetho...et-theory-history-whitewashed-composer-powder

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Does anyone really care.? Still his music doesn't sound like rap, Blues, Jazz, or ragtime.

 

[GURPS]

Does anyone really care.?

Blacks apperantly do .... as well as claiming Cleopatra IIRC

 

[Hijinx]

They might be right.

 

[Bonehead]

Who cares what color his skin was it is his music that transcends all this race nonsense.

 

[CPUSA]

Who cares what color his skin was it is his music that transcends all this race nonsense.

Because NOW it can be claimed that Rap's roots NOW go back to...you guessed it!!!

 

[Smokey1]

Blacks apperantly do .... as well as claiming Cleopatra IIRC

Reminds me of the Cold War standing joke when the Russians claimed they invented everything.

 

[WingsOfGold]

Eric the Red was also black, everybody knows that.

 

[vraiblonde]

Blacks apperantly do ....

You know, I don't think they do. Some rando posted it on social media and a bunch of other randos jumped on to prove the millennial stereotype. I'm not sure you can translate that to, "Black people think Beethoven was black." This "story" doesn't include the screenshot, that I saw, but I would bet you cash that the person who posted it (if it's even true) is white.

And Cleopatra was almost certainly dark skinned and didn't look a thing like Elizabeth Taylor.

Psst, Jesus was dark skinned as well. Your little Bible thing at the doctor's office was wrong.

 

[PsyOps]

300 years from now people are going to look at the statue of Dr. MLK Jr and say he was white.

 

[DaSDGuy]

300 years from now people are going to look at the statue of Dr. MLK Jr and say he was white.

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Not if another group of psychopaths come along and justify tearing it down. Give them a hundred years or so for tides to turn. Heck, by then everything not chinese may be forbidden.

 

[vraiblonde]

Not if another group of psychopaths come along and justify tearing it down. Give them a hundred years or so for tides to turn. Heck, by then everything not chinese may be forbidden.

I like Chinese food so I'm probably okay with that.

 

[Monello]

300 years from now people are going to look at the statue of Dr. MLK Jr and say he was white.

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All this time I thought that was 50 cent.

 

[BOP]

You know, I don't think they do. Some rando posted it on social media and a bunch of other randos jumped on to prove the millennial stereotype. I'm not sure you can translate that to, "Black people think Beethoven was black." This "story" doesn't include the screenshot, that I saw, but I would bet you cash that the person who posted it (if it's even true) is white.

And Cleopatra was almost certainly dark skinned and didn't look a thing like Elizabeth Taylor.

Psst, Jesus was dark skinned as well. Your little Bible thing at the doctor's office was wrong.

Yeah, but Liz Taylor was pretty hot when she was Cleopatra's age.

 

[GURPS]

 

[herb749]

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That was the Mummy's woman.

 

[SamSpade]

And Cleopatra was almost certainly dark skinned and didn't look a thing like Elizabeth Taylor.

She was a Ptolemy - a descendant of the Macedonian general Ptolemy, who gained control of Egypt when Alexander conquered it.
She was probably the ONLY Ptolemy that ever bothered to learn the Egyptian language - all of her predecessors spoke Greek.


They were Greeks. They may have been olive skinned and darker, although Alexander himself was believed to have been blonde.
Cleopatra - whatever she looked like - was not in any way African - or Egyptian for that matter.

 

[Kyle]

300 years from now people are going to look at the statue of Dr. MLK Jr and say he was white.

Perhaps. That or....

 

[UglyBear]

What’s funny is that these dummies could find real examples of talented people of African descent, without having to invent ridiculous chit.
Pushkin, who is to Russian literary language is what Chaucer is to English, was quarter Ethiopian, with documented descent from African slave ennobled by Russian monarch.
as much as I dislike Russians, I truly admit Pushkin was truly talented and had remarkable effect on one of the major world languages.

 

[Bird Dog]

What’s funny is that these dummies could find real examples of talented people of African descent, without having to invent ridiculous chit.
Pushkin, who is to Russian literary language is what Chaucer is to English, was quarter Ethiopian, with documented descent from African slave ennobled by Russian monarch.
as much as I dislike Russians, I truly admit Pushkin was truly talented and had remarkable effect on one of the major world languages.

Tearing down statues, rewritting history, creating false narratives to raise world standings will never work. Doesn’t matter what your heritage is....