Was it a setup?

WingsOfGold

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I told Hubby most of the Democrats probably turned the debate off after the first couple of questions. Biden was horrible... mumbly... and dead looking. Trump was just spouting one lie after another and fact checkers were nowhere to be found. I'm afraid if the fact checkers had indeed been in Biden's ear, he couldn't have used the information anyway because he was too busy mumbling unintelligible stuff. AND I'm on Biden's side... lol

Here's another problem I have... Harris has got to give up the VP spot. People are not ready for a woman, let alone a non-white woman, as president. Biden needs to find a white male everyone can accept as a VP. Now my Dem Hubby says Harris did a good job as VP... and I do agree... but Biden looks like he's on death's door and Harris would be the next "man" standing! After the mess I saw last night... It is indeed an issue. And I like the guy... lol

I will not vote for Trump... I will write my name in instead on the Primary Ballot next month. I'm Independent anyway... No one is counting my vote yet.

Democrats... straighten out your ticket... you need a respected rich white man to be VP in order to beat Trump. AND for crying out loud get Biden a makeup person!!!! Give Biden some color... No one wants a corpse P and black VP... not even the never-trumpers.

Republicans... have Trump make up a bunch more lies since no one is going to be fact checking him. People will apparently buy anything he says... oh, and please encourage Trump to bring on the black guy for VP... so, he can trapse his Uncle Tom self around the south making black votes acceptable. Most men would vote for a black VP before they would vote for a woman VP.

OH man this is the worst election cycle I have ever witnessed. Ugh....

It was a horrible debate.... and yes, I watched all of it... and I saw Biden get better... but not good enough to cover for that woman on his ticket. He's not as young as he was in 2020.

Turning Point.... Lou Dobbs.... get the church out of politics... We do not combine church and state in the United States of America. I see Turning Point [WAVA radio] all over this election cycle. The church has no place in this. Take that money you are feeding Trump and give it to the poor as Christ instructed! Stop giving Herad the money collected for the poor.

:coffee:
LOLOLOL I'd have no problem with a woman IF she were capable. The lunatics essentially voted for a female that gave blowjobs for favor knowing she might have to take over via the 25th or better yet death by heart attack.
Blackburn............ bet your bible thumping Koran quoting ass.
 

herb749

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So what is going on with what happened after the debate. Biden's people know this was going on. Democrats knew what was going on. World leaders could see what was going on. Were they all covering for this guy .?
 
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BOP

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Yo idiot, it’s Newsom

Get the new presidents name right
Sure thing, dummy.

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SamSpade

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The moderators aren't there to "fact-check" and I would like to know what you think Trump "lied" about.

Be specific.
When people say stuff like this - I always ask “well what’s the WORST one? What’s the one that sticks out the most?”.

Because if he did it a lot, there’s gotta be ONE that sticks out.
 

CPUSA

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I told Hubby most of the Democrats probably turned the debate off after the first couple of questions. Biden was horrible... mumbly... and dead looking. Trump was just spouting one lie after another and fact checkers were nowhere to be found. I'm afraid if the fact checkers had indeed been in Biden's ear, he couldn't have used the information anyway because he was too busy mumbling unintelligible stuff. AND I'm on Biden's side... lol

Here's another problem I have... Harris has got to give up the VP spot. People are not ready for a woman, let alone a non-white woman, as president. Biden needs to find a white male everyone can accept as a VP. Now my Dem Hubby says Harris did a good job as VP... and I do agree... but Biden looks like he's on death's door and Harris would be the next "man" standing! After the mess I saw last night... It is indeed an issue. And I like the guy... lol

I will not vote for Trump... I will write my name in instead on the Primary Ballot next month. I'm Independent anyway... No one is counting my vote yet.

Democrats... straighten out your ticket... you need a respected rich white man to be VP in order to beat Trump. AND for crying out loud get Biden a makeup person!!!! Give Biden some color... No one wants a corpse P and black VP... not even the never-trumpers.

Republicans... have Trump make up a bunch more lies since no one is going to be fact checking him. People will apparently buy anything he says... oh, and please encourage Trump to bring on the black guy for VP... so, he can trapse his Uncle Tom self around the south making black votes acceptable. Most men would vote for a black VP before they would vote for a woman VP.

OH man this is the worst election cycle I have ever witnessed. Ugh....

It was a horrible debate.... and yes, I watched all of it... and I saw Biden get better... but not good enough to cover for that woman on his ticket. He's not as young as he was in 2020.

Turning Point.... Lou Dobbs.... get the church out of politics... We do not combine church and state in the United States of America. I see Turning Point [WAVA radio] all over this election cycle. The church has no place in this. Take that money you are feeding Trump and give it to the poor as Christ instructed! Stop giving Herad the money collected for the poor.

:coffee:
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vraiblonde

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When people say stuff like this - I always ask “well what’s the WORST one? What’s the one that sticks out the most?”.

Because if he did it a lot, there’s gotta be ONE that sticks out.

Note that none of them want to mention the nonstop litany of flat out absurd lies that Biden told. Forget all the hoax accusations against Trump that have been debunked (by liberal sources, no less). NO American soldiers died during his administration? Prescription drugs capped at $200? Border Patrol endorses him? <-- That one got fact-checked in real time on Twitter by the Border Patrol. And the most outrageous lie of all, Biden saying he has a 6 handicap.

:roflmao:

All over the progbot DNC owned media they're all, "Biden was lackluster but TRUMP LIED!!" Trump had a couple of exaggerations, but Biden flat out ****ing lied his face off.....and not a single one of them wants to admit it.
 

Chopticon64

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I’m walking back a lot of what I said earlier, polls are clearly showing Biden got more support after the debate. I think the more folks see Trump the more they are disgusted and Biden gets support.

This is weekend at Bernie’s level stuff.

Why didn’t you folks vote for Nikki?? She’d had won by a landslide.
 

Chopticon64

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I’m walking back a lot of what I said earlier, polls are clearly showing Biden got more support after the debate. I think the more folks see Trump the more they are disgusted and Biden gets support.

This is weekend at Bernie’s level stuff.

Why didn’t you folks vote for Nikki?? She’d had won by a landslide.
Wow, watched the full debate

Trump is acknowledging the deportation of 25 million folks
 

Chopticon64

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Note that none of them want to mention the nonstop litany of flat out absurd lies that Biden told. Forget all the hoax accusations against Trump that have been debunked (by liberal sources, no less). NO American soldiers died during his administration? Prescription drugs capped at $200? Border Patrol endorses him? <-- That one got fact-checked in real time on Twitter by the Border Patrol. And the most outrageous lie of all, Biden saying he has a 6 handicap.

:roflmao:

All over the progbot DNC owned media they're all, "Biden was lackluster but TRUMP LIED!!" Trump had a couple of exaggerations, but Biden flat out ****ing lied his face off.....and not a single one of them wants to admit it

He got us out of Afghanistan, something Trump never figured out.
 

LightRoasted

If I may ...
For your consideration ...

The moderators aren't there to "fact-check" and I would like to know what you think Trump "lied" about.

Be specific.

Doubt she will. Her opinions come from 'feelings', rather than factual critical and logical thinking processes. In addition to lacking a complete understanding of the US Constitution. She should just stick to religion where everything is mostly subject to interpretation.

He lied about the National guard request


Too funny ...

CLAIM: Former President Donald Trump signed an order to deploy 20,000 National Guard troops before his supporters stormed the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6, 2021, but was stopped by the House sergeant at arms, at the behest of Speaker Nancy Pelosi.

And ....“Trump signed an order to deploy 20,000 Guardsmen on J6. It was refused by the House sergeant at arms, who reports to Nancy Pelosi,” one user wrote Friday on Gettr. The claim also spread on Instagram and Twitter.

It's a "claim", without any reference to who said, or started, this. Show an actual quote from him. You can't do it.

It was a setup, of false information/disinformation to smear and discredit Trump. Simple as that.
 

SamSpade

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All over the progbot DNC owned media they're all, "Biden was lackluster but TRUMP LIED!!" Trump had a couple of exaggerations, but Biden flat out ****ing lied his face off.....and not a single one of them wants to admit it.
I'm not quite as put off by some kinds of lies. As I have said on here A MILLION TIMES ( <--- see? ) everybody lies, but it's not always malicious.

"The innocent lie because they don't want to be blamed for something they didn't do, and the guilty lie because they don't have any other choice." - Jeffrey Sinclair, "Babylon 5".

Repeating something false that you THINK is true is not lying, but the onus is still on you for repeating something harmful without confirming it. If for example, you repeat to a friend that someone you both know was driving drunk - and you think it's true but it isn't - it's still on you for not confirming it. It's the nature of gossip and why it's harmful - people repeat stuff not knowing if it's false - or because they HOPE it is true.

Repeating something to others because you don't UNDERSTAND the details and get it wrong is not a lie - but again, saying something false that casts someone in a bad light is STILL on you. I OFTEN hear people on the air repeat data that refers to rates - or small changes that result in HUGE percentage changes - and mix them up or repeat them thinking it's salacious. Say for instance, there's a school that has an illegal immigrant child, and not long after, they have another one, and it's reported there's a 100% surge in illegal kids. True, but misleading.

^ THAT *is* a lie if the speaker said it to deceive. It is not a lie if they just say it because they heard it and it sounded bad.
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Not to let Joe off the hook - but - a lot of his statements I don't regard as lies. STILL bad, but not lies because he's delusional enough to believe they are the truth. He'll hear something and in his dementia laden mind, confuse and conflate material. He'll hear from a source that something happened on his watch as a consequence of something that happened in Trump's administration - and he'll say the country was that way when he got it.

Again - a lie is the intent to deceive. Saying something that isn't true is not the same as lying. Lying is intentional. Saying bad things about someone else that aren't true and you think they are isn't lying. It's slander.
 
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