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Bruzilla
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Hopefully once Bush wins the election he'll take the gloves off.
UrbanPancake
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Yes he is saying that. As a Bush supporter he has suffered from a mental defect. (If you look on Bush's campaign website it says at the bottom in tiny wording that Bush supporters may suffer from diarrehea, headaches, and mental defects.......)
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Bruzilla
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J.South said:
Ahhhhh... what about US actions during the Greek Civil War from 1947 to 1949? How about counter-insurgency operations in Central America during the 1980s? How about numerous campaign efforts during WWI and WWII? I hate to say it, but you're painting yourself as just another of those mis-informed folks who think military history started with Vietnam.
What is true is that we don't win these types of military actions when we try to fight a political battle in parallel. We won in Greece because we knew where the bad guys were and we went in and killed them. We could have won in Vietnam by doing the same thing, just as we could gain control of Iraq. Unfortunately, Bush seems too afraid of world opinion and criticisim from the Dems.
Hessian
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How short is our memory?
How about 105 years ago in the Philippines?
We lost more men in that "insurgency" than in the Spanish American War.
But...we got an ally that bled and died by the thousands to protect our boys trying to escape the Japanese in WWII.
It took 4 years to "pacify" the Philippines. And the Liberals say "How can the world's most powerful nation fail to bring order to a small poverty stricken island chain?" "Oh..It cost so many lives and we didn't even get any oil! What industry was behind it? Dole Fruit???"
Insurgencies have never been an easy clean win. Time...and firmness.
How about 105 years ago in the Philippines?
We lost more men in that "insurgency" than in the Spanish American War.
But...we got an ally that bled and died by the thousands to protect our boys trying to escape the Japanese in WWII.
It took 4 years to "pacify" the Philippines. And the Liberals say "How can the world's most powerful nation fail to bring order to a small poverty stricken island chain?" "Oh..It cost so many lives and we didn't even get any oil! What industry was behind it? Dole Fruit???"
Insurgencies have never been an easy clean win. Time...and firmness.
J.South
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Bruzilla said:
From what I know Guatemala was a negotiated peace accord and In 1998, Colombian President Andres Pastrana granted FARC a 42,000 square kilometer safe haven which was the FARC condition for beginning peace talks. The peace process with the government continued at a slow pace for three years during which the BBC and other news organizations reported that FARC also used the safe haven to import arms, export drugs, recruit minors, and build up their military. After a series of high-profile actions, including the kidnapping of a Colombian presidential candidate, Ingrid Betancourt (who was traveling in guerrilla territory), Pastrana ended the peace talks in February 2002 and ordered Colombian forces to start retaking the FARC-controlled zone.
Steve
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J.South said:
The US doesn't have to win any guerilla war; we intend to hand the task of dealing with the insurgents/rebels/terrorists over to the Iraqi government. We already did the hard part: we abolished Saddam and his Army. The death of 49 Iraqi troops due to insurgent action simply proves further that these people will stop at nothing short of either establishing their own regime or maintaining total anarchy. They will not last forever. The Iraqi people will grow tired of this war and will eventually help their new government to round up these guys. Give it time...
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UrbanPancake
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J.South said:
I agree with you. What we should be doing is include some Middle Eastern countries in the training process. That would put some Arab faces on the ground in Iraq. It would help lessen the sentiment that we're there for exploitative reasons.
Which would improve our situation, and help lessen the strain on our over extended troops.
No one answered you on this incomplete question with improper punctuation and terrible spelling. Yes, Gen. Washington won a guerrilla war. The colonists were the guerrillas. You never studied American history did you? If you did, you must not have been paying attention.J.South said:
UrbanPancake
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2ndAmendment said:
You ding bat, he's talking about fighting guerillas who are the enemy. Now that I think about it, it seems that we should be fighting that way today since it works so well for our enemies.
