Welfare

Jaded

New Member
I have a friend in her 30's who quit her job a while back and now gets welfare.

She's a single mom with two children, doesn't get child support from either of the fathers, no disabilities, and recently started community college, bill footed by the state.

She has a cell phone and she has the internet and she goes out drinking and partying several times a week, all paid for by the state.

Is it wrong of me to think this is ludicrous?

I'm not trying to be judgemental but I am also a single mother of two and have always made it on my own with no help from the state.
I have never gotten welfare, I have always worked long hours and sometimes two jobs to make ends meet.

It's awkward when she asks me to go out and party with her.
Part of me doesn't want to go because I don't want to condone her partying on someones tax dollars.
The other part of me says what the hell, you're paying for it anyway.

I give her credit for trying to continue her education but I do not think that she should be getting all of this free from the state.

Are my feelings wrong? What do you think?

Thank you for letting me vent.
 

RoseRed

American Beauty
PREMO Member
Jaded said:
I have a friend in her 30's who quit her job a while back and now gets welfare.

She's a single mom with two children, doesn't get child support from either of the fathers, no disabilities, and recently started community college, bill footed by the state.

She has a cell phone and she has the internet and she goes out drinking and partying several times a week, all paid for by the state.

Is it wrong of me to think this is ludicrous?

I'm not trying to be judgemental but I am also a single mother of two and have always made it on my own with no help from the state.
I have never gotten welfare, I have always worked long hours and sometimes two jobs to make ends meet.

It's awkward when she asks me to go out and party with her.
Part of me doesn't want to go because I don't want to condone her partying on someones tax dollars.
The other part of me says what the hell, you're paying for it anyway.

I give her credit for trying to continue her education but I do not think that she should be getting all of this free from the state.

Are my feelings wrong? What do you think?

Thank you for letting me vent.

So are you.
 

janey83

Twenty Something
No, I understand where you're coming from. She shouldn't be spending money on cell phone/internet though, there should be limits on what state money should be spent for -- ie, baby food, groceries, basically helping to support the kids. Does your friend have a job?
 

mAlice

professional daydreamer
No, you're feelings aren't wrong. They're very right. Maybe if she can't find anyone to party with, she'll stay home and tuck her kids in at night, then go study.
 

Jaded

New Member
janey83 said:
No, I understand where you're coming from. She shouldn't be spending money on cell phone/internet though, there should be limits on what state money should be spent for -- ie, baby food, groceries, basically helping to support the kids. Does your friend have a job?
Not anymore.
She quit.

She's talking about getting a part time job now but I don't think she will once she realizes that she'll get kicked off welfare.
She can't work full time though because of school.
 

janey83

Twenty Something
Jaded said:
Not anymore.
She quit.

She's talking about getting a part time job now but I don't think she will once she realizes that she'll get kicked off welfare.
She can't work full time though because of school.


she could work full time & then take nightclasses. :shrug: do what you have to do.
 

mAlice

professional daydreamer
janey83 said:
she could work full time & then take nightclasses. :shrug: do what you have to do.


That's kind of pointless, unless she has family that will watch her kids for free.
 

Pete

Repete
Jaded said:
I have a friend in her 30's who quit her job a while back and now gets welfare.

She's a single mom with two children, doesn't get child support from either of the fathers, no disabilities, and recently started community college, bill footed by the state.

She has a cell phone and she has the internet and she goes out drinking and partying several times a week, all paid for by the state.

Is it wrong of me to think this is ludicrous?

I'm not trying to be judgemental but I am also a single mother of two and have always made it on my own with no help from the state.
I have never gotten welfare, I have always worked long hours and sometimes two jobs to make ends meet.

It's awkward when she asks me to go out and party with her.
Part of me doesn't want to go because I don't want to condone her partying on someones tax dollars.
The other part of me says what the hell, you're paying for it anyway.

I give her credit for trying to continue her education but I do not think that she should be getting all of this free from the state.

Are my feelings wrong? What do you think?

Thank you for letting me vent.
Why are you friends with a person like this?
 

mAlice

professional daydreamer
Jaded said:
She has people who watch her kids so she can drink.

My point is, if she's not with them, she has to pay someone else to watch them, unless family is doing it for free....working to pay for child care.
 

Jaded

New Member
Pete said:
Why are you friends with a person like this?
We've been friends a long time.
This just happened a few months ago.
I am re-evaluating the friendship at this point.
 

Pete

Repete
Jaded said:
We've been friends a long time.
This just happened a few months ago.
I am re-evaluating the friendship at this point.
People change, some for the better, some for the worse. I don't lend the term "friend" to people who's life choices and lifestyle are 180 degrees out from mine. They are free to suck off the teet of an overly generous government, but I don't have to embrace it or condone it by being their "friend".
 

Flipside

Don't do it !
Jaded said:
I have a friend in her 30's who quit her job a while back and now gets welfare.

She's a single mom with two children, doesn't get child support from either of the fathers, no disabilities, and recently started community college, bill footed by the state.

She has a cell phone and she has the internet and she goes out drinking and partying several times a week, all paid for by the state.

Is it wrong of me to think this is ludicrous?

I'm not trying to be judgemental but I am also a single mother of two and have always made it on my own with no help from the state.
I have never gotten welfare, I have always worked long hours and sometimes two jobs to make ends meet.

It's awkward when she asks me to go out and party with her.
Part of me doesn't want to go because I don't want to condone her partying on someones tax dollars.
The other part of me says what the hell, you're paying for it anyway.

I give her credit for trying to continue her education but I do not think that she should be getting all of this free from the state.

Are my feelings wrong? What do you think?

Thank you for letting me vent.

How do you know she isn't turning tricks on the side? :whistle:
That's not something a woman would share with a judgmental friend. :biggrin:
 

Jaded

New Member
elaine said:
My point is, if she's not with them, she has to pay someone else to watch them, unless family is doing it for free....working to pay for child care.
She has friends watch her kids.
I don't think she pays them.
She never paid me anyway.
 

Jaded

New Member
Flipside said:
How do you know she isn't turning tricks on the side? :whistle:
That's not something a woman would share with a judgmental friend. :biggrin:
This is true.
I wouldn't put it past her.
 
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