Well... it peaked my interest

[Radiant1]

The crate is for potty-training and to prevent "puppy destruction" when we aren't home. My malamute is quite content in her crate.

Yeah, I know. I happen to be lucky enough to work out of my home so I don't have to crate.

Seems like there's a major problems with NAIDs and "recreation" NAIDs. Hard to tell if you're really get one or if you're getting a fake. For that price, I better be getting a real one. Not in the market for another dog yet but when I am, I will keep NAIDs in mind.

That's what I understand, which is why there are only like 6 (?) "approved" breeders in the country. However, you have to wonder if the NAID is a true breed in and of itself or just a husky/wolf-hybrid type of mix? Wolf hybrids are illegal in Maryland.

Btw, if it's the look you like you may want to check out the Tamaskan.

 

[jetmonkey]

:shrug: Jazz was on travel.

 

[RareBreed]

Yeah, I know. I happen to be lucky enough to work out of my home so I don't have to crate.



That's what I understand, which is why there are only like 6 (?) "approved" breeders in the country. However, you have to wonder if the NAID is a true breed in and of itself or just a husky/wolf-hybrid type of mix? Wolf hybrids are illegal in Maryland.

Btw, if it's the look you like you may want to check out the Tamaskan.

Cool! I will have to look into the site more.

 

[itsbob]

Their temperament seems very similar to my border collie. To put that dog in a crate would be a travesty and harmful to his mental health. An NAID would be perfect for my household, lots of kids to love and play with, lots of room to run, and no need for a crate or chain. I just can't swing $1000.

PS - Chain729, if You're reading this.... i know what i want for Christmas, You have time to save up some $!

Dogs are animals, when they are on the wild, where would they sleep? in their living room? On the couch in the middle of a clearing in the woods?

They'd prefer, and feel safer in a cave, about the size of a good sized crate. Better able to defend themselves, and to not be accessible to predators while they are snoozing.

My dog loved his crate, and after a while never even had to shut the door, he'd go in by himself. If the kids got too noisy, or he was otherwise uncomfortable in whatever situation he would retreat to the comfort of his very own cave.

 

[RareBreed]

Dogs are animals, when they are on the wild, where would they sleep? in their living room? On the couch in the middle of a clearing in the woods?

They'd prefer, and feel safer in a cave, about the size of a good sized crate. Better able to defend themselves, and to not be accessible to predators while they are snoozing.

My dog loved his crate, and after a while never even had to shut the door, he'd go in by himself. If the kids got too noisy, or he was otherwise uncomfortable in whatever situation he would retreat to the comfort of his very own cave.

My Malamute is the same way. She loves her crate.

 

[misslady67]

My dog loved his crate, and after a while never even had to shut the door, he'd go in by himself. If the kids got too noisy, or he was otherwise uncomfortable in whatever situation he would retreat to the comfort of his very own cave.

BG is right darn it...you ARE smart

Yeah I crated my older dog until she was about a year old...I now crate my boxer...and she goes in there in the evenings on her own...it's a security thing.

 

[RareBreed]

BG is right darn it...you ARE smart

Yeah I crated my older dog until she was about a year old...I now crate my boxer...and she goes in there in the evenings on her own...it's a security thing.

My current dog is the first dog I've owned that was crated. I grew up in a house with atleast one dog at all times and my parents never crated them. When I was researching the breed of dog I wanted, it said it was best to crate them to help with potty-training and to lessen puppy destruction. The breeder also recommended it. I thought "how cruel" but after seeing how well my dog got accustomed to it and how she felt like it was a safe haven, not a prison, I will use this method for any other dog I might get in the future.

 

[Kohburn]

That's what I understand, which is why there are only like 6 (?) "approved" breeders in the country. However, you have to wonder if the NAID is a true breed in and of itself or just a husky/wolf-hybrid type of mix? Wolf hybrids are illegal in Maryland.

yeah - theres a lot of information out there about dogs that are part wolf - very intelligent - fence climbing dogs - temperament depends a lot on the breed they are crossed with. the ones that look the most wolf like are crossed with akitas,huskies,or shepards, all of which can result in a aggressive dog with strong instinctual behavior. when trained well they can be great pets but in their old age tend to revert back to more instinctual behavior. its a neat idea, and very attractive to some to think of having such a smart dog. But in reality its risky, and comes with side effects. like smart dogs get bored easily leading to them becoming destructive just out of trying to entertain themselves. wolf dogs will often dig HUGE holes (dens) out in the open or under sheds etc, and i mean HUGE.

 

[RareBreed]

yeah - theres a lot of information out there about dogs that are part wolf - very intelligent - fence climbing dogs - temperament depends a lot on the breed they are crossed with. the ones that look the most wolf like are crossed with akitas,huskies,or shepards, all of which can result in a aggressive dog with strong instinctual behavior. when trained well they can be great pets but in their old age tend to revert back to more instinctual behavior. its a neat idea, and very attractive to some to think of having such a smart dog. But in reality its risky, and comes with side effects. like smart dogs get bored easily leading to them becoming destructive just out of trying to entertain themselves. wolf dogs will often dig HUGE holes (dens) out in the open or under sheds etc, and i mean HUGE.

These are not wolf dogs. They don't have any wolf in them. They are just bred to "look" like them.

 

[Kohburn]

These are not wolf dogs. They don't have any wolf in them. They are just bred to "look" like them.

and if you could read you'd see that my reply was about the risk of fakes and the questioning of the true validity of the breed.

 

[RareBreed]

yeah - theres a lot of information out there about dogs that are part wolf - very intelligent - fence climbing dogs - temperament depends a lot on the breed they are crossed with. the ones that look the most wolf like are crossed with akitas,huskies,or shepards, all of which can result in a aggressive dog with strong instinctual behavior. when trained well they can be great pets but in their old age tend to revert back to more instinctual behavior. its a neat idea, and very attractive to some to think of having such a smart dog. But in reality its risky, and comes with side effects. like smart dogs get bored easily leading to them becoming destructive just out of trying to entertain themselves. wolf dogs will often dig HUGE holes (dens) out in the open or under sheds etc, and i mean HUGE.

Ok. I re-read your post and all you talk about are dogs mixed with wolves.

 

[Kohburn]

Ok. I re-read your post and all you talk about are dogs mixed with wolves.

yes in refference to the post that I quoted. is reading comprehension really that difficult? you have to look at things within the context of the discussion.

 

[RareBreed]

yes in refference to the post that I quoted. is reading comprehension really that difficult? you have to look at things within the context of the discussion.

I prefer the context of the experts that I've been in contact with over yours, but thanks. BTW, I'm done with this so go play with someone else. ok??

 

[Kohburn]

I prefer the context of the experts that I've been in contact with over yours, but thanks. BTW, I'm done with this so go play with someone else. ok??

These are not wolf dogs. They don't have any wolf in them. They are just bred to "look" like them.

well you started the tangent so feel free to end it

I'm already playing elsewhere

 

[Radiant1]

Dogs are animals, when they are on the wild, where would they sleep? in their living room? On the couch in the middle of a clearing in the woods?

They'd prefer, and feel safer in a cave, about the size of a good sized crate. Better able to defend themselves, and to not be accessible to predators while they are snoozing.

My dog loved his crate, and after a while never even had to shut the door, he'd go in by himself. If the kids got too noisy, or he was otherwise uncomfortable in whatever situation he would retreat to the comfort of his very own cave.

I believe you. I wasn't criticizing, I understand that dogs also dig to make for themselves such a place. My BC, however, will totally freak if he gets closed into a small bathroom let alone a smaller space like a crate. He has a pen with a doghouse outside and he never uses the dog house; he prefers to sleep outside of it. He does, however, exhibit that type of behavior during a thunderstorm when he will crawl under my desk or my bed, the big wuss.

 

[Radiant1]

yeah - theres a lot of information out there about dogs that are part wolf - very intelligent - fence climbing dogs - temperament depends a lot on the breed they are crossed with. the ones that look the most wolf like are crossed with akitas,huskies,or shepards, all of which can result in a aggressive dog with strong instinctual behavior. when trained well they can be great pets but in their old age tend to revert back to more instinctual behavior. its a neat idea, and very attractive to some to think of having such a smart dog. But in reality its risky, and comes with side effects. like smart dogs get bored easily leading to them becoming destructive just out of trying to entertain themselves. wolf dogs will often dig HUGE holes (dens) out in the open or under sheds etc, and i mean HUGE.

I think that's true for most dogs, my doberman did that as she got older.

I'm suspect of the NAID and it's breeding with wolves; however, Tamaskan breeding has been very strictly documented and regulated.

 

[RareBreed]

I think that's true for most dogs, my doberman did that as she got older.

I'm suspect of the NAID and it's breeding with wolves; however, Tamaskan breeding has been very strictly documented and regulated.

I found a breeder in Elizabeth City, NC that is just starting out. Bought their female last year and the male this year. Haven't started breeding yet because the female is too young but I will be keeping my eye on their website over the next year to see any litters. The owners are members of the Tamaskan registry and their female is from the first litter born in the USA.

http://tarheeltamaskan.webs.com/

 

[Radiant1]

I found a breeder in Elizabeth City, NC that is just starting out. Bought their female last year and the male this year. Haven't started breeding yet because the female is too young but I will be keeping my eye on their website over the next year to see any litters. The owners are members of the Tamaskan registry and their female is from the first litter born in the USA.

Tarheel Tamaskan |

How much do they cost? Considering it's an upstart breed in the USA I would think they would be more than the NAID.

 

[RareBreed]

How much do they cost? Considering it's an upstart breed in the USA I would think they would be more than the NAID.

Don't know. There are no puppies yet. Some of the other breeders in other countries say they will ship the puppies to the USA but that just seems wrong. I remember when my brother shipped his dog from Fla to VA. Poor thing was terrified when she got here and had pooped all over herself.

 

[Radiant1]

Don't know. There are no puppies yet. Some of the other breeders in other countries say they will ship the puppies to the USA but that just seems wrong. I remember when my brother shipped his dog from Fla to VA. Poor thing was terrified when she got here and had pooped all over herself.

Awwww, and it's a long haul from the UK to the States!