Well of course she lost weight

Czar

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Supposedly heart attacks and strokes are symptoms of our modern diet, so sayeth the hippies. If that were true, our ancestors should have never had strokes or heart attacks.
Folk didn't live long enough back in the day to have heart attacks. In the year 1900 life expectancy was around 47 years.
 

SamSpade

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Most shortened representations of “life span” take into account the very high number of infant/child mortality. As in, couples would MANY children that didn’t live until 3 or 4. Averaging THEM in makes it look like people didn’t live long.

AVERAGE is not the term you need. MEDIAN adult age at death is what you want. IF you lived through early childhood, you had a good chance to live to old age.

Even the Bible says the life of man is three score and ten - and a blessing if four score. So in Biblical times, old meant old.
 

PeoplesElbow

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Folk didn't live long enough back in the day to have heart attacks. In the year 1900 life expectancy was around 47 years.
The lower life expectancy was from the huge number of children that died before reaching 12. If you made it to 30 years old back then you had a pretty decent chance to make it to 70. Child mortality was brutal, all those evil vaccinations are largely responsible for the increased average life expectancy.
 

PeoplesElbow

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For your consideration ...


Regarding seed oils ... These oils are loaded with linoleic acid. While linoleic acid, an essential omega-6 fatty acid, is necessary for the body, in very very small amounts, (1-2% of total daily calories), that come from natural unprocessed foods such as eggs and nuts in one's diet, the cumulative intake of these industrially manufactured seed oils high in linoleic acid from daily consumption of processed foods wreak havoc in the human body causing ill effects such as increasing tissue oxidative damage, inflammation, obesity, and heart disease. And can also accelerate the biological clock, resulting in premature aging and death.

These seed oils, with unnaturally high concentrations of omega-6 fatty acids, are used in near all processed and ultra-processed foods. In addition to people having a bottle or two of canola oil, corn oil, etc., seed oils, in their cupboards to use when cooking, just adds to already consumed foods with seed oils in them. Our government, specifically the FDA without doing their own studies, allows the use of the term GRAS, (Generally Regarded As Safe), from food manufacturers concerning ingredients they use. Of course these manufactures, their, and other associated "studies", tout the benefits of omega-6 fatty acids, but without divulging the damaging effects they do cause in the quantities just one portion alone can begin to create.

Also, it can take years for the body to eliminate excess linoleic acid, if one were to want to get healthy.

Additionally and related: I would bet my last dollar food manufacturers, if they wanted, could get away with just using plain old dirt as a filler for manufactured processed foods using the GRAS standard if they said they washed, filtered, sterilized, pasteurized, and homogenized it from only high quality dirt obtained from an area untouched-by-human-activity region in flyover country that was deposited from the ice age glaciers receding as they melted.

Hell, they already use wood pulp as a filler, which is listed as "cellulose gum" found in ingredient lists, that is used in breakfast syrups, salad dressings, pie fillings, ketchup, barbecue sauce, tomato sauce, ice cream, and many many other everyday processed foods. But hey, it's "plant based", so it must be good for you, right?

If one were to really think about it, one could/might come to the conclusion that food manufacturers, and government, are out to get and keep people sick, ensure they continue passing through the revolving door that is medical industrial complex, and shorten their lifespan. In addition to extracting high health insurance premiums, high deductibles, and other out-of-pocket medical costs.

Topic related videos:

A short primer regarding Dr. Price before a Dr. Price video ....



Here is a short video, a film produced Dr. Weston A. Price, that studied various peoples eating natural diets to their area, and problems caused by the introduction commercial foods, from the 1930's. Imagine what he would find today if he were here to do a similar study?


More like blaming shootings on guns rather than how they are used.
 

vraiblonde

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Even the Bible says the life of man is three score and ten - and a blessing if four score. So in Biblical times, old meant old.

But 70 or 80 isn't old in this day and age. 70yos are still active, many of them still in the workforce, and many in good health. 80yos are starting to slow down, but are largely not on death's door.

My great-grandmother died in her early 70s, and was fragile for at least 10 years prior to.
My grandmother was 80 when she died, and was clearly starting to break down in the years before.
My mother just celebrated 80 years by dancing on the table top at her party. <--she drank, smoked, and ate junk way more than her mom and grandmother.

This is scary for me because I hadn't planned on living past 80 and now it's looking like my expiration date will be pushed back a good bit. I need to start eating organic and whole foods so I'll die sooner. :jet:
 

SamSpade

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But 70 or 80 isn't old in this day and age. 70yos are still active, many of them still in the workforce, and many in good health. 80yos are starting to slow down, but are largely not on death's door.

My great-grandmother died in her early 70s, and was fragile for at least 10 years prior to.
My grandmother was 80 when she died, and was clearly starting to break down in the years before.
My mother just celebrated 80 years by dancing on the table top at her party. <--she drank, smoked, and ate junk way more than her mom and grandmother.

This is scary for me because I hadn't planned on living past 80 and now it's looking like my expiration date will be pushed back a good bit. I need to start eating organic and whole foods so I'll die sooner. :jet:
I mentioned the whole thing though to indicate - two THOUSAND years ago, they said 70-80 was about normal. People are somehow under the impression they just didn’t live that long, but they usually did.
 

LightRoasted

If I may ...
For your consideration ...


This guy's commentary will crack you up while showing the nature of seed oils. BTW. Linoleic acid is used in the production of linoleum flooring, hence the name, and in the production of certain other products. That is what you are eating when you use, or eat foods containing, seed oils.

Watch these two videos for more understanding.



 

vraiblonde

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For your consideration ...


This guy's commentary will crack you up while showing the nature of seed oils. BTW. Linoleic acid is used in the production of linoleum flooring, hence the name, and in the production of certain other products. That is what you are eating when you use, or eat foods containing, seed oils.

Watch these two videos for more understanding.





Why would anyone give a damn what some rando YouTuber has to say? You only care because he says what you want to hear.
 

LightRoasted

If I may ...
For your consideration ...

Why would anyone give a damn what some rando YouTuber has to say? You only care because he says what you want to hear.


OMG. He is showing what is in these oils that people consume on a daily basis and how they can plasticize due to the linoleic acid when it is used for cooking and frying, compared to other oils and natural saturated fats.

I really don't care if you don't believe what is said about seed oils. Have at them. Cook and fry away with them. Consume them to your heart's content. Order foods fried in the stuff whenever you eat out. More power to ya.

For the class though, and those that might want to learn of the dangers, cumulative or otherwise . . . How about an article from the British Medical Journal, with all the necessary citations one would need to further research the issues regarding seed oils to come to their own conclusions?


Oh and lookie here ... a restaurant that understands that seed oils are bad. And are instead working to serve healthy, seed oil free and other unnatural additive free, food to their patrons and genuinely care about the health of their customers.

https://www.ronsoriginal.com/uncategorized/processed-seed-oil-the-bad-and-the-ugly/

Sure would be nice to have a restaurant like this around these parts.
 

vraiblonde

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How about an article from the British Medical Journal, with all the necessary citations one would need to further research the issues regarding seed oils to come to their own conclusions?

Is that the same British Medical Journal that said covid was going to kill us all?

Yeah, I'ma pass on that.

Again, you believe what you want to believe and picky choosy your sources to "back you up". I couldn't care less what kind of oil you choose to consume so stop evangelizing the ones I choose.
 

phreddyp

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For your consideration ...




OMG. He is showing what is in these oils that people consume on a daily basis and how they can plasticize due to the linoleic acid when it is used for cooking and frying, compared to other oils and natural saturated fats.

I really don't care if you don't believe what is said about seed oils. Have at them. Cook and fry away with them. Consume them to your heart's content. Order foods fried in the stuff whenever you eat out. More power to ya.

For the class though, and those that might want to learn of the dangers, cumulative or otherwise . . . How about an article from the British Medical Journal, with all the necessary citations one would need to further research the issues regarding seed oils to come to their own conclusions?


Oh and lookie here ... a restaurant that understands that seed oils are bad. And are instead working to serve healthy, seed oil free and other unnatural additive free, food to their patrons and genuinely care about the health of their customers.

https://www.ronsoriginal.com/uncategorized/processed-seed-oil-the-bad-and-the-ugly/

Sure would be nice to have a restaurant like this around these parts.
No! A restaurant that THINKS seed oils are bad, just like YOU PADRE.
 

LightRoasted

If I may ...
For your consideration ...

Is that the same British Medical Journal that said covid was going to kill us all?

Yeah, I'ma pass on that.

Again, you believe what you want to believe and picky choosy your sources to "back you up". I couldn't care less what kind of oil you choose to consume so stop evangelizing the ones I choose.


Probably. Just like every medical association outlet, CDC, FDA, AMA, health departments across the continent, etc., etc.,etc., here in the US said as well. It's almost like people can't trust anything any government, or any for profit medical corporation, says. Go figure. :sshrug:

P.S. I don't know which seed oils you use, or choose to consume. The post was never about you anyway. Hey are you becoming a narcissist? Asking for a friend.
 

vraiblonde

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Probably. Just like every medical association outlet, CDC, FDA, AMA, health departments across the continent, etc., etc.,etc., here in the US said as well. It's almost like people can't trust anything any government, or any for profit medical corporation, says. Go figure. :sshrug:

I've lived a freakishly healthy life by ignoring doctors and government saying things are going to kill me.

P.S. I don't know which seed oils you use, or choose to consume. The post was never about you anyway. Hey are you becoming a narcissist? Asking for a friend.

ACTUALLY this is a thread *I* started about a woman eating nothing but sardines and - surprise surprise - losing weight. No really, go look. *You* are the one who jumped in to be some nutrition expert spouting junk science.

So there.
 

LightRoasted

If I may ...
For your consideration ...

I've lived a freakishly healthy life by ignoring doctors and government saying things are going to kill me.

ACTUALLY this is a thread *I* started about a woman eating nothing but sardines and - surprise surprise - losing weight. No really, go look. *You* are the one who jumped in to be some nutrition expert spouting junk science.

So there.


I was opening the doors and windows of the echo chamber?
 
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