What a country

[Chris0nllyn]

Federal law also prohibits people coming into this country without a legal reason; which liberal judges, mayors, governors, and our last president (all people who took an oath to support and defend) decided to ignore.

That's the point. Federal immigration law. As in, federal. Not state. Arizona was trying to create their own immigration law which is why SCOTUS ruled the way they did. Arizona made their own state law that is preempted by federal law, hence why it was struck down.

 

[Chris0nllyn]

I see... so a judges orders are above the law. I guess two wrongs do make it right... or something like that. Did occur to you that the judge got it wrong? Did it occur to you that judges also must enforce the law, and not create law from the bench? We get your hate for cops, but my God, how do you condemn one while ignoring the other for doing essentially the same thing?

Contempt of court is the perogative of the court. It's a charge issued by a judge that also happens to be law.

The judge gave ample time for him to comply (18 months) and he outright refused all the while bragging that he didn't care what happens in court or who sues him.

 

[Kyle]

SCOTUS ruled the way they did because federal law prohibits illegal entry. Arizona made their own state law that is preempted by federal law, hence why it was struck down.

And the Federal Government wasnt' doing their ####ing job!

If the federal government wont enforce it then just kill the ones you find in the crossing, don't report it, and throw the bodies in a land fill.

 

[Gilligan]

That's the point. Federal immigration law. As in, federal. Not state. Arizona was trying to create their own immigration law which is why SCOTUS ruled the way they did. Arizona made their own state law that is preempted by federal law, hence why it was struck down.

What are the reasons behind your total support of illegal immigration and illegal immigrants? Because it's a standard far-left position? Because you always root for underdogs? Because they all vote Democrat? What?

 

[Chris0nllyn]

What are the reasons behind your total support of illegal immigration and illegal immigrants? Because it's a standard far-left position? Because you always root for underdogs? Because they all vote Democrat? What?

Is that how you're reading this? Not as me explaining the case to a group of people who clearly have no ####ing clue about it, but as my unwaivering support for illegal immigration?

 

[Chris0nllyn]

And the Federal Government wasnt' doing their ####ing job!

If the federal government wont enforce it then just kill the ones you find in the crossing, don't report it, and throw the bodies in a land fill.

Deportations from this country during that time were at an all-time high. One could argue the govt. was doing their job, no? You can certainly argue it wasn't good enough, but deportations were happeneing while ICE and Border Patrol were enjoying cushy budgets.

 

[Kyle]

Deportations from this country during that time were at an all-time high. One could argue the govt. was doing their job, no? You can certainly argue it wasn't good enough, but deportations were happeneing while ICE and Border Patrol were enjoying cushy budgets.

And we can get a lot more by checking the status of EVERY one they catch.

 

[Gilligan]

Is that how you're reading this? Not as me explaining the case to a group of people who clearly have no ####ing clue about it, but as my unwaivering support for illegal immigration?

Can only go by what you post.

 

[Chris0nllyn]

Can only go by what you post.

I'm curious. Could you point out which posts lead you to believe that?

 

[This_person]

Deportations from this country during that time were at an all-time high. One could argue the govt. was doing their job, no? You can certainly argue it wasn't good enough, but deportations were happeneing while ICE and Border Patrol were enjoying cushy budgets.

I think the argument was that in order to get the "all-time high" numbers, the method of counting was changed to include turn-arounds at the border and calling them "deportations".

Lies, damned lies, and statistics; and all that.

 

[Chris0nllyn]

I think the argument was that in order to get the "all-time high" numbers, the method of counting was changed to include turn-arounds at the border and calling them "deportations".

Lies, damned lies, and statistics; and all that.

I get that argument, but if the argument is that the federal govt. is "not doing their ####ing job", what were they doing while deporting and following up on immigration crimes?

 

[Gilligan]

I'm curious. Could you point out which posts lead you to believe that?

Sure. All of them.

 

[Wishbone]

Sure. All of them.

.... In many differing threads on the subject of illegal immigration.

 

[This_person]

I get that argument, but if the argument is that the federal govt. is "not doing their ####ing job", what were they doing while deporting and following up on immigration crimes?

Well, I don't think anyone thinks they were sitting in their offices playing solitaire, but the larger point of they were not going out and actively seeking illegal aliens where they could, they were doing sweep up and piddly work. The proof of that being the almost daily barrage of stories across the nation of illegal aliens killing, raping, hurting, and otherwise being in the United States.

 

[Chris0nllyn]

Sure. All of them.

So it should be easy to come up with a quote or 2?

Well, I don't think anyone thinks they were sitting in their offices playing solitaire, but the larger point of they were not going out and actively seeking illegal aliens where they could, they were doing sweep up and piddly work. The proof of that being the almost daily barrage of stories across the nation of illegal aliens killing, raping, hurting, and otherwise being in the United States.

I don't have enough info on the inner workings of ICE/BP to know what they're doing in terms of enforcement, but if they weren't doing their job I'd think deportations (including turnarounds at the border) wouldn't be happening.

It's like a personnel issue.

 

[This_person]

So it should be easy to come up with a quote or 2?



I don't have enough info on the inner workings of ICE/BP to know what they're doing in terms of enforcement, but if they weren't doing their job I'd think deportations (including turnarounds at the border) wouldn't be happening.

It's like a personnel issue.

I guess it's all in how you look at it. If a security guard notices that a window is broken and he blocks as many people from getting into the bank through that window as he can, he's "doing his job." If he also calls for help and tries to stop the people that got past him from stealing within the bank, he's "actually doing his job".

The argument is that, yes there were people doing something other than playing solitaire 40 hours a week, but there's a lot more they could/should have been doing. Especially if the measure of "doing one's job" used to be counting how many of the people in the bank you caught, and is now how many people you stopped from getting into the bank in the first place.

 

[Chris0nllyn]

I guess it's all in how you look at it. If a security guard notices that a window is broken and he blocks as many people from getting into the bank through that window as he can, he's "doing his job." If he also calls for help and tries to stop the people that got past him from stealing within the bank, he's "actually doing his job".

The argument is that, yes there were people doing something other than playing solitaire 40 hours a week, but there's a lot more they could/should have been doing. Especially if the measure of "doing one's job" used to be counting how many of the people in the bank you caught, and is now how many people you stopped from getting into the bank in the first place.

Could it be simple govt. ineptitude? Bad allocation of resources? Who knows, but you're right, it's how you look at it. If their job is to set up and stand around a "border" checkpoint 50 miles inside the United States, they likely aren't finding too many illegals. If those same resources were tasked with working along the actual border, who knows...

 

[Gilligan]

So it should be easy to come up with a quote or 2?

Too easy.

 

[Chris0nllyn]

Too easy.

So, put up or shut up.

 

[Wishbone]

So, put up or shut up.

Unnecessary... We all recognize you for the Prog-wort Warrior you yearn to be!