What do you think (opinions needed)

citysherry

I Need a Beer
I gave my niece an American Girl doll for her 5th birthday last year...well my sister-in-law called last night to tell me that over the weekend they had company over and a 9 year old girl asked if she could play with the AG doll. SIL said that after the company left she was picking up and noticed that AG doll now has certain body parts (nipples, pubic hair, butt crack) drawn on it in ink. SIL said she was able to get most of it off but wanted to let me know. My first concern was not the condition of the doll but what would make a little girl draw anatomically correct body parts on a baby doll that didn’t even belong to her. My mind immediately began questioning what could be going on in this little girls life. Is this common at this age (she will be 10 in 2 months) and am I over reacting or reading too much into it?
 

baileydog

I wanna be a SMIB
My humble opinion is...it sounds like the 10 yr old was just wanting to be a big show off smarty pants and see what she could get away with. Im sure one good azz whoopin would help her realize that you cant destroy other peoples things and get away with it. But this is where the parents come in. I would call the mother , explain the situation, see what she has to say and go from there.
 

Tinkerbell

Baby blues
I don't think my daughter would have done that when she was that age. Heck, I don't think she'd do that now. It's not that my daughter didn't/doesn't know what they are, but rather that she doesn't mess up other people's belongings.

The girl might have thought it would be funny, though I'd have to question where she gets this type of sense of humor.
 

ocean733

New Member
citysherry said:
I gave my niece an American Girl doll for her 5th birthday last year...well my sister-in-law called last night to tell me that over the weekend they had company over and a 9 year old girl asked if she could play with the AG doll. SIL said that after the company left she was picking up and noticed that AG doll now has certain body parts (nipples, pubic hair, butt crack) drawn on it in ink. SIL said she was able to get most of it off but wanted to let me know. My first concern was not the condition of the doll but what would make a little girl draw anatomically correct body parts on a baby doll that didn’t even belong to her. My mind immediately began questioning what could be going on in this little girls life. Is this common at this age (she will be 10 in 2 months) and am I over reacting or reading too much into it?

That child is old enough to know better. I would also be concerned about what is going on in that child's life.
 

citysherry

I Need a Beer
ocean733 said:
That child is old enough to know better. I would also be concerned about what is going on in that child's life.

See, you went there too....."concern about what is going on in that child's life." What/why would a child want to put adult body parts on a "baby doll's body"
 

cattitude

My Sweetest Boy
I dunno...at 10, I'm assuming she knows a "little" of what goes on. My daughter "started" at 10. Probably just being silly. When my mom used to go to the grocery store and I'd stay back with girlfriends (we were probably 11/12) we used to do all sorts of silly things. We'd get her bras (she has large boobs) and fill water balloons, stick them in the bra cups and prance around the house.
 

citysherry

I Need a Beer
cattitude said:
I dunno...at 10, I'm assuming she knows a "little" of what goes on. My daughter "started" at 10. Probably just being silly. When my mom used to go to the grocery store and I'd stay back with girlfriends (we were probably 11/12) we used to do all sorts of silly things. We'd get her bras (she has large boobs) and fill water balloons, stick them in the bra cups and prance around the house.

Maybe I am over reacting....I haven't see this behavior in my girls - although they’re very immature 9 year olds going on 10.
 

jenbengen

Watch it
I'd first be concerned with explaining it to my five year old! I'm on the fence about this one- If I knew the parents well enough to know they would be horrified with what was done, I'd tell them in a heartbeat. If I knew nothing of the parents, I'm not sure what I'd do. Regardless, I'm not sure my 5 year old would be hanging around the 9 year old until I got better info on the family. My kid wouldn't dream of vandalizing somebody's property. Sure, kids can do stupid things, but this is far from the normal poor decision making, in my opinion.
 

vraiblonde

Board Mommy
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baileydog said:
My humble opinion is...it sounds like the 10 yr old was just wanting to be a big show off smarty pants and see what she could get away with. Im sure one good azz whoopin would help her realize that you cant destroy other peoples things and get away with it. But this is where the parents come in. I would call the mother , explain the situation, see what she has to say and go from there.
I agree with this :yeahthat:
 

bcp

In My Opinion
citysherry said:
I gave my niece an American Girl doll for her 5th birthday last year...well my sister-in-law called last night to tell me that over the weekend they had company over and a 9 year old girl asked if she could play with the AG doll. SIL said that after the company left she was picking up and noticed that AG doll now has certain body parts (nipples, pubic hair, butt crack) drawn on it in ink. SIL said she was able to get most of it off but wanted to let me know. My first concern was not the condition of the doll but what would make a little girl draw anatomically correct body parts on a baby doll that didn’t even belong to her. My mind immediately began questioning what could be going on in this little girls life. Is this common at this age (she will be 10 in 2 months) and am I over reacting or reading too much into it?
according to the list of things to be cautious of when thinking child molestation or abuse,
this is one that would raise flags big time with the social workers.

Could be nothing, but then again,,, I would question the whole thing.

and I also would not be worried about the AG doll... yet, they are expensive,, my daughter has like 5 of those things. I choke everytime she gets one.
 

citysherry

I Need a Beer
bcp said:
according to the list of things to be cautious of when thinking child molestation or abuse,
this is one that would raise flags big time with the social workers.

Could be nothing, but then again,,, I would question the whole thing.

and I also would not be worried about the AG doll... yet, they are expensive,, my daughter has like 5 of those things. I choke everytime she gets one.

The "list of things..." that you're referring to, is it published somewhere? TIA
 

JeweledSkye

I Make Nerd Look Good
I've got three younger siblings, and not even the one with an engineer's mind(lots of literal thinking and often decides to just tell it like it is, even if it might be inappropriate... she just doesn't seem to comprehend why people can't handle the truth lol), would want to do something like that. I understand your concern for what's going on in her life, I'd be worried too. Besides... it never hurts to call a counselor at a local school or something and ask if it's normal behavior. They understand the way kids think pretty well, and know what the warning signs are. Would help even better if you could call the girl's school and mention it to them, just saying you're concerned. They can at least look into it. If nothing else, it comes to the parent's attention and they know its time to sit down and have a little chat.
 

JeweledSkye

I Make Nerd Look Good
FireBrand said:
Bottom line (no pun intended :killingme ) a good ass whoopin' is in order for property destruction !


So you would punish a child for acting out like that, even if it turns out that they're being abused?
 

JeweledSkye

I Make Nerd Look Good
FireBrand said:
Yes ! two wrongs don't make a right !

Way too much hypothetical going on here !

So you would rather just punish her and not bother to think that there might be something going on behind the scenes to make her act that way? No concern for the child's welfare at all?
 
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missperky

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JeweledSkye said:
So you would rather just punish her and not bother to think that there might be something going on behind the scenes to make her act that way? No concern for the child's welfare at all?

I think you read a lil too far into FireBrands post. :shrug:
 

JeweledSkye

I Make Nerd Look Good
missperky said:
I think you read a lil too far into FireBrands post. :shrug:


Two posts back, I asked if he would rather just punish her, never mind that there might actually be a reason for her acting that way, and he answered with "two wrongs dont make a right". Mind you we are talking about a 9 year old girl here. Children have a hard enough time comprehending right and wrong on their own when they're not being abused.

After all... punishing a child if they are abused would be like the cops telling you it's your fault someone robbed you just because you left a window open and they got through the screen and stole your stuff. Victimizing the victim.
 
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