What progs should know about Trump voters

vraiblonde

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Not that any of them will read this because their handlers have told them it's poison to consume any information outside of what they've been programmed with, but here it is:


Progs glom onto these celebrities and politicians and gobble up the ugly rhetoric, but most Americans don't like that. We don't idolize the likes of Maxine Waters, and Kirsten Gillibrand seems like a fluffy dingbat to us, while Chuck Schumer is just flat out mean and Adam Schiff is that kid you want to punch. We don't think Madonna is cool, we think she's a desperately aging slut. We don't laugh at Ron Perlman or Johnny Depp - we think they're drug addled thugs.
 

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A superb article by the incomparable Victor Davis Hanson. Thanks, Vrai, for the post.

Speaking of VDH, I had the opportunity to hear him speak at length in a professional setting a few years back when I was still on active duty. While I would never characterize him as a riveting speaker as far as oration style goes, one does find oneself hanging on his every word. So rich and dense and full of thought and contemplation. Not mesmerizing in a rock concert sense, but mesmerizing in the things that matter.

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Not that any of them will read this because their handlers have told them it's poison to consume any information outside of what they've been programmed with, but here it is:


Progs glom onto these celebrities and politicians and gobble up the ugly rhetoric, but most Americans don't like that. We don't idolize the likes of Maxine Waters, and Kirsten Gillibrand seems like a fluffy dingbat to us, while Chuck Schumer is just flat out mean and Adam Schiff is that kid you want to punch. We don't think Madonna is cool, we think she's a desperately aging slut. We don't laugh at Ron Perlman or Johnny Depp - we think they're drug addled thugs.


Funny how YOU always claim the EVERYONE else is programmed. Funny how you always b!tch about the incivility of OTHERS.

In any case...read your pathetic attempt to justify Trump all the way thru...let's have some fun shall we spitbubble???
 

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(CNN)Progressives wonder how in the world could anyone still support President Donald Trump. So here are ten reasons why more than 40% of the electorate probably does -- and will.



The author fails miserablely in his opening two sentences. The plain fact of the matter is that a significantly broader range of the political spectrum than just “progressives” wonders how anyone can still support President Trump. Trump draws every bit of his support from a minority of America. For those who can’t do math, 40% is not enough to win.
 

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“Voters”??? That is not the criteria established in the first paragraph. In any case, Trump and his policies have done nothing---not one god damned thing to change the trajectory or trend lines of job creation. The focus on the unemployment rate is for the really brain dead. The same people who bitched about the Labor Force Participation rate 5 years ago are the same morons who are ignoring it today.

WTF is “virtual” 3% GDP growth? We had two quarters of above 3% GDP growth. They are over. It will cost this country roughly $2T in debt to achieve those two quarters of above 3% GDP growth. Wages have begun to increase, finally. Again, this is not a function of Trump policies…it was where we were headed before he took office. Trump has done nothing to increase oil or nat gas production or consumption. Technology did that with fracking and the ability to remove oil from “tight” formations. The President’s infantile approach to trade has hurt this country’s and the world’s economic growth. Trump is a decided negative.

Additionally, the current economic recovery is about to have its 10th anniversary. Oh...and just to be persnickety...it is not a recovery...it is an expansion. A very basic difference of definition that someone writing a treatise like this should know and understand.
 

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  • Trump does not exist in a vacuum. Many supporters turned off by some of his antics are still far more appalled by an emerging radical neo-socialist Democratic agenda. If the alternative to Trump is a disturbing tolerance among some Democrats for anti-Semitism, the Green New Deal, reparations, a permissive approach to abortion even very late in pregnancy, a wealth tax, a 70-90% top income tax rate, the abolition of ICE, open borders, and Medicare for all, Trump's record between 2017-20 will seem moderate and preferable. Progressives do not fully appreciate how the hysterics and media coverage of the Kavanaugh hearings, the Covington teenagers and the Jussie Smollett psychodrama turned off half the country. Such incidents and their reportage confirmed suspicions of cultural bias, media distortions, and an absence of fair play and reciprocity.

Where are these Trump supporters who are turned off by his antics??? For Christ sake, the majority of his supporters on here and the OP on this thread revel in Trump’s asinine and embarrassing commentary/actions. It is so bad, Spitbubble claims to be unable to understand what the concept of “Being Presidential” actually means.

The author is completely wrong in his statement that the only alternative to Trump is a far left progressive. The best alternative to Trump is a actual Republican, someone with actual experience, someone with actual character.
 

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Trump can be uncouth and crass. But he has shown an empathy for the hollowed-out interior, lacking from prior Republican and Democratic candidates. His populist agenda explains why millions of once traditional Democratic voters defected in 2016 to him -- and may well again in 2020. Some polls counterintuitively suggest that Trump may well win more minority voters than prior Republican presidential candidates.

Trump is more than uncouth and crass. He is an ass. Traditional Democrats mostly stayed home in 2016…Trump has done little to nothing for the working family. His policies has been devastating to farmers…the tax changes punished people living in “blue” states. Those folks aren’t going to vote for Trump in 2020. Trump fails miserably in every poll in every racial category except old and white.
 

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This is the cult…the brainwashed...it is the spitbubbles of the world and their "programming". Go look at what his poll numbers did during the shutdown. His support was eroding faster than a barrier island in a hurricane. BTW…whenever Trump hits an impasse…he caves. Trump has failed on almost every promise he made during the campaign. Mexico isn’t paying for the wall…military school kids are. He has failed to make any progress in North Korea. He has failed to make any meaningful progress on trade. He gave wonderful tax breaks to himself and others like him…and stuck the bill to the rest of us. Judges have been confirmed…but Rs had control of both houses of Congress…ANY R would have had judges confirmed. McConnell destroyed the Senate in hopes of an R President…he didn’t give a sh!t who it was.
 

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Voters are angry over the sustained effort to remove or delegitimize a sitting president. Many of the controversies over Trump result from the inability of Hillary Clinton supporters to accept his shocking victory....

There is a sustained effort to determine how deep foreign adversaries meddled in our last election. Donald Trump’s own words/actions and the words/actions of those around him led to the need to investigate him and his associates. Trump acts like a guilty man. Trump fired Comey then said on national TV that he did it to stop/delay/impede the “Russer” investigation. That is obstruction. Everyone around Trump lied to federal authorities about their contact with Russians during the campaign or during the transition. The media coverage of Trump is negative because damn near everything Trump says is negative. He is always attacking…everyone. His skin is so thin you can see thru it.
 

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  • Progressives seemingly do not appreciate historical contexts. By past presidential standards, Trump's behavior while in the White House has not been characterized by the personal indiscretions of a John F. Kennedy or Bill Clinton....

All one has to do is note the “while in the White House” qualified to understand what a piece of rationalized BS this point is.
 

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  • Globalization enriched the two coasts, while America's interior was hollowed out. Anywhere abroad muscular labor could be duplicated at cheaper rates, it often was -- especially in heavy industry and manufacturing. Trump alone sensed that and appealed to constituencies that heretofore had been libeled by presidents and presidential candidates as "crazies," "clingers," "deplorables" and "irredeemables." Fairly or not, half the country feels that elites, a deep state, or just "they" (call them whatever you will) are both condemnatory and yet ignorant of so-called fly-over country. Trump is seen as their payback.
This may come as a shock to the ignorati, but the US economy is not a stagnant beast. It is ever changing. Most of you Trump supporters who b!tch about globalization are driving foreign made cars…buy all your crap off the internet (putting your neighbors out of business).

The US economy and the country as a whole has flourished by trading internationally.

Donald Trump claims to be a billionaire. There is nothing more elitist than that.
 

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  • For a thrice-married former raconteur, the Trump first family appears remarkably stable, and loyal. The first lady is winsome and gracious. Despite the negative publicity, daughter Ivanka remains poised and conciliatory. The appearance of stability suggests that if Trump may have often been a poor husband, he was nonetheless a good father.
WTF does this have to do with his policies? WTF does this have to do with his incompetence? WTF does this have to do with “executive time”? WTF does this have to do with his failure to listen to advice from experts in their fields? WTF does this have to do with alienating our allies and bowing before our enemies?

What…we are supposed to give the guy a cookie because he has a hot wife who exists under an iron clad pre-nup???

Obama had a beautiful family too with well behaved children. The ignorati crowd belittled and attacked them at every turn.
 

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  • Trump is a masterful impromptu speaker. Increasingly he can be self-deprecatory, and his performances are improving. Even his marathon rallies stay entertaining to about half the country. He handles crowds in the fashion of JFK, Bill Clinton, or Barack Obama rather than of a flat Bob Dole, Hillary Clinton or Mitt Romney.
Trump is a buffoon as an impromptu speaker. Trump is a buffoon in general, but when speaking off the cuff or on an impromptu basis he is at his worst. He has no grasp of facts…he is inconsistent on his policy statements…the only thing he can do with any expertise is call people names and rile up poor, old white people who are petrified of their own shadows. Reference his glorification of all the “good people” who are white supremacists and Neo Nazis…witness his pathetic and continued disrespectful comments towards John McCain…witness his attacks on gold star families. The most amazing thing is that people like spitbubble and the rest of Trumps defenders on here claim to be sooooo family orientated—as Trump institute policies that permanently separate children from the parents—and these same people claim to be Patriots—as Trump spits on McCain and those gold star families!!!

Trump’s marathon rallies stay entertaining to a VERY small minority of Americans. Fox doesn’t show you the actual crowds…only the angles they want you to see…but Fox isn’t biased….NOOOO!!!!!!!!!

Trump is a carnival barker…with no substance and no character. He doesn’t speak of grand ideals or visions….he speaks of fear and pettiness. He doesn’t preach to our better angels…he blusters to the lowest common denominator. He doesn’t look for solutions, he looks for people to blame.

He is no comparison to JFK Bill Clinton or Barack Obama (when Obama was “on”). Trump is a disgrace to the country.

To conclude: no it isn’t just progressives that can’t understand how anyone could support such a worthless, petty, uneducated and ignorant man as Trump as President. The actual unaversive of those who wonder this include 55-65% of the American electorate and the majority of those in the rest of the free world. Only our enemies understand and relish your support of Trump.
 

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