what we import from India

[itsbob]

That is a sad reality that our American schools are still dominated by the white demands and Caucasian privileges which gives many disadvantages to the nonwhite people.

The US gov has to forcibly intervene to stop the discrimination by the whites, and enforce laws so there can be some equality and fairness in our schools.

As in that high level University in India did not get started until the white racist regime was removed from India - which use to hold everyone down.

What type of Affirmative Action does India have that produces these great minds of theirs?

Or do they have a performance based system?

 

[bcp]

What type of Affirmative Action does India have that produces these great minds of theirs?

Or do they have a performance based system?

Their system is performanced based, they could not care less about equality in admissions. The only thing they look for is the brightest of those applying.

If the same standards had been used here for the last 50 years, we might still be leading in education.

 

[VoteJP]

Response.

What type of Affirmative Action does India have that produces these great minds of theirs?

Or do they have a performance based system?

The "Affirmative Action" in India was done when they removed the white racist from ruling their Country.

Link = Indian independence movement - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

So of course in India it is performance based now.

The USA still needs to remove the white racist mentality from our Country.

 

[bcp]

The "Affirmative Action" in India was done when they removed the white racist from ruling their Country.

Link = Indian independence movement - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

So of course in India it is performance based now.

The USA still needs to remove the white racist mentality from our Country.

But wait a minute,
with obammy we have a black racist in office, we got rid of the white racists (according to you)
So why cant we now get rid of a racist affirmative action program and go strictly performance based..

 

[Cheeky1]

The USA still needs to remove the white racist mentality from our Country.

I agree with you, JP. Removing the racism AGAINST folks that have "white" skin would do well for the USA.

All racism, against everyone, exists in the USA. It is called affirmative action. Just because a piece of legislation assists a group of people (grouped together due to there skin color, but you could really use any demographic you choose) economically does not mean that is helps them be all they can be.

Example: there is a "white" applicant and "non-white" applicant applying for the same job and the "non-white" applicant is accepted based mearly upon fulfilling a quota that this percentage of the company is required to be "non-white"......that is racism AGAINST the "white" applicant. Consider this when speaking of the "white racist mentality". So, I agree with you, it would seem some "white" folks take the position to be racist towards other "white" folks.

In the example, you could also replace the "white" and "non-white" applicants with "non-white 1" and "non-white 2" applicants, respectively. Then, you'd have racism between folks that are not "white" at all.

Cheers.

 

[itsbob]

The "Affirmative Action" in India was done when they removed the white racist from ruling their Country.

Link = Indian independence movement - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

So of course in India it is performance based now.

The USA still needs to remove the white racist mentality from our Country.

So once they removed the racists and affirmative action, and based their education solely on performance this is the result??

WOW, about time you came around.

 

[BOP]

This message is hidden because the white race-hating rump ranger VoteJP is on your ignore list.

 

[itsbob]

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My wife's cousin, a white female, just earned her Degree and is doing her residency, soon to become a full MD general practitioner. If only affirmative action hadn't prevented her from becoming a doctor

Just imagine how great a doctor she could have been without the dumbing down of the schools so those less capable could graduate from the same schools.

 

[Monello]

Just like the NFL imposed the Rooney rule to increase the number of minority head coaches to better reflect the percentage of minorities in the general population.

No word yet when they are going to implement the Hillis/Welker/Gerhart rule. (The percentage of white players increased slightly from 30 percent in 2009 to 31 percent in 2010, while the percentage of African-American players remained at 67 percent.)
http://tidesport.org/RGRC/2011/RGRC_NFL_2011_FINAL.pdf

To the best of my knowledge females have not been permitted in the boys club that is the NFL. In the new diversified US, how is that possible?

We now return you to your original thread, already in progress.

 

[thatguy]

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My wife's cousin, a white female, just earned her Degree and is doing her residency, soon to become a full MD general practitioner. If only affirmative action hadn't prevented her from becoming a doctor

Just imagine how great a doctor she could have been without the dumbing down of the schools so those less capable could graduate from the same schools.

Admission and graduation are two different things. I don't think that there is evidence that medical schools in the US have dumbed anything down. As far as I know the best medical schools in the world (and the best medical treatment too) are still in the US. Hell, johns Hopkins is definitely one of the best and it is just up the road.

 

[itsbob]

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Admission and graduation are two different things. I don't think that there is evidence that medical schools in the US have dumbed anything down. As far as I know the best medical schools in the world (and the best medical treatment too) are still in the US. Hell, johns Hopkins is definitely one of the best and it is just up the road.

Affirmative action didn't just apply to admissions, but graduation percentages too.

Law schools, med schools, engineering, you name it, affirmative action was asked to both ends of college.

 

[thatguy]

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Admission and graduation are two different things. I don't think that there is evidence that medical schools in the US have dumbed anything down. As far as I know the best medical schools in the world (and the best medical treatment too) are still in the US. Hell, johns Hopkins is definitely one of the best and it is just up the road.

Affirmative action didn't just apply to admissions, but graduation percentages too.

Law schools, med schools, engineering, you name it, affirmative action was asked to both ends of college.

Can you show me? I searched and don't see requirements for graduation, only admissions. I am sure that admission requirements will effect the percentage of minorities graduatiing, but that doesn't mean the schools have reduced their standards necessarily.
Like I said before, the best medical schools are still in America, and the top ten are all in countries with affirmative action.

 

[itsbob]

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Can you show me? I searched and don't see requirements for graduation, only admissions. I am sure that admission requirements will effect the percentage of minorities graduatiing, but that doesn't mean the schools have reduced their standards necessarily.
Like I said before, the best medical schools are still in America, and the top ten are all in countries with affirmative action.

Than why are all of our doctors from India?

 

[thatguy]

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Can you show me? I searched and don't see requirements for graduation, only admissions. I am sure that admission requirements will effect the percentage of minorities graduatiing, but that doesn't mean the schools have reduced their standards necessarily.
Like I said before, the best medical schools are still in America, and the top ten are all in countries with affirmative action.

Than why are all of our doctors from India?

They aren't. Roughly 75% of American doctors are white.
Besides, Indian doctors immigrating to the US aren't a product of affirmative action.

 

[Dougstermd]

Wow that was a waste of several minutes. Do you all think affirmitive action is the reason for or against kids studying and being " smarter" earlier? High achievers did not just learn that trait during post secondary education.

 

[Tilted]

As long as this country is burdened with programs like affirmative action, this type of education will be out of our reach.
You cannot have a entrance requirement based on percentage of minorities and expect to gain top credentials.

Correct my understanding if it is mistaken, but I was of the understanding that quotas with regard to public college admissions were prohibited (with the further effect being that quotas were also effectively prohibited at most private colleges). Is that not the case?

The only way any institution in this country would be able to compete is for them to be allowed to recruit only the best, regardless of how the racial breakdown ends up.

once again, another example of how political correctness is destroying this country.

Are they not allowed to do that as it is? Some states may not choose to with regard to their public colleges, but some states do. And private colleges are free to recruit / admit based on merit criteria, without regard to race, if they want to, no? If anything, it is the other choice - the degree to which colleges can consider race, rather than their ability to not consider it at all - that is limited.

 

[Tilted]

And, yes, it seems that we import some skills because there's a general lack of domestic supply of them. Unfortunately, we also sometimes export the jobs, rather than import the skills, in response to the lack of supply.

 

[punjabigyrl]

Than why are all of our doctors from India?

Two answers.
1. to make the american dream....money etc.
2. there is a quota for foreign medical doctors that this country can take in. Since the local american kids after graduating don't want to work in small towns, the govenrment goes and looks for people willing to work in small towns in the middle of nowhere for a set amount amount of time in return get a greencard and path to citizenship. Alot of young people would not want to go work in a small town after they graduate.

This does't apply to medical doctors. About 4 years ago there was a shortage of Pharmacists(since they switched the bachelors to a doctorate program) as a result they went to different countries and recruited pharmacists. my husbands cousin(from England) came in that way, CVS(in a small town) asked him to work for them for 3 years and they applied for a greencard. Fast forward 6 years he's got his citizenship and is getting ready to open his own pharmacy in a small town in PA.

I wish with the shortages if they could have given incentives to the existing pharmacists, medical doctors etc. and limiting the imports would have been a win win situation. As a result, you have newgraduates being underpaid, and an overage of pharmacists.

 

[Mongo53]

You can't rule, immigration is working with India, and similiar east nations, with the best of their people coming to the U.S. to live the American Dream, combined with an India that is at least functional enough the best rise to the top and get the resources to be able to emmigrate properly.

That can carry over to several generations of that family, for work ethic, and inherited traits from the original parents that had it to escape the East for the U.S.

Nations that you can walk to the U.S. from them, and throw in their disfuntion that would suppress those that are NOT corrupt and you wonder why we see less doctors and more gardeners that snuck into the country. Thats NOT a comment on their worth as human beings, its a comment on their societies and immigration policy.

 

[bcp]

What we really need from India is not more doctors, we need more of their single 20 something womens,,