What's next for Tim Tebow?

[Larry Gude]

Another point I'd like to make with regards to Denver, as soon as he was traded, there was a fuss by the Broncos locker room about how they couldn't stand him...so again, I don't think he was inspiring anyone...I think it was the product of the schedule and a weak AFC West.

Now, we're getting somewhere. I hadn't heard that.

 

[Beta84]

If this doesn't open the eyes of the Tebowtards nothing will..

Just because Tebow spanked your beloved Bucknuts a few years ago doesn't mean he's a bad QB. You really need to get over your hatred for him.

The guy took a 1-4 team, led by what most people were calling a pretty good QB in Kyle Orton, and took them to 8-8, then a playoff win. That's a 7-4 record. By comparison, Manning has the team at 13-3. Better, sure, but why heap all the praise on Manning if he has a team that merely needed a competant QB? They made other upgrades to help Manning out.

The Denver defense was decent last year, but there were plenty of games they didn't show up. Tebow's passing numbers weren't great, but he made plays when he needed to (4th quarter and OT), he helped the running game, and the bottom line is he won games.

I don't get it. We saw the guy, with all his limitations, pick up Denver and lead them to the playoffs AND a first round win. How in the hell could his stock have fallen so far that he isn't ahead of Sanchez???? That not one team, not the Chiefs, not the Jags, not the Raiders, Mark is, to me, all the accuracy of Tebow (slam) absent the leadership skills and absent the running skills.

The Jets never even gave him a chance. Not even in the last freaking game so he could audition for someone else AND bring them maybe something in trade.

I wonder what it really is? Do they hate him in the film room? In practice? Good lord. Rex Grossman started two years ago. :shrug:

Simple -- he's not a very good QB in a traditional sense. His passing isn't very good and in practice his skills don't translate. When you're practicing in a pass-oriented offense and you're not a pass-oriented QB, you struggle. He needs the type of run-oriented, option-based offense that they used for him in Denver. He doesn't fit the Jets system beyond their wildcat package.

Nonetheless, I think they made a mistake by not trying him out the way Denver did. What did they have to lose? McElroy clearly isn't the solution and Sanchez isn't either. With Tebow, you at least know he led a winning team the previous year.

Sanchez and Tebow based on skill alone isn't even a contest, Sanchez wins easily....

Another point I'd like to make with regards to Denver, as soon as he was traded, there was a fuss by the Broncos locker room about how they couldn't stand him...so again, I don't think he was inspiring anyone...I think it was the product of the schedule and a weak AFC West.

I disagree. Sanchez was the only other QB that couldn't complete 50% of his passes half the time, so I don't see a sizeable passing advantage by Sanchez. On top of that, Tebow is a better leader, crunch-time player, and a far superior runner and play action passer. You can't discount all of that when discussing skill.

As for the locker room crap, you're overblowing that. A couple of guys didn't like the way he led because they're whiny crybabies and then the rest of them didn't like the locker room circus that the was caused by the MEDIA, not Tebow.

But if you want to talk about weak schedule and weak AFC West, Manning has 1 less loss than Tebow on a significantly upgraded Denver team. Why all the praise on him if he's on a team with an easy schedule in a bad division that's better than it was last year?

 

[thurley42]

Just because Tebow spanked your beloved Bucknuts a few years ago doesn't mean he's a bad QB. You really need to get over your hatred for him.

The guy took a 1-4 team, led by what most people were calling a pretty good QB in Kyle Orton, and took them to 8-8, then a playoff win. That's a 7-4 record. By comparison, Manning has the team at 13-3. Better, sure, but why heap all the praise on Manning if he has a team that merely needed a competant QB? They made other upgrades to help Manning out.

The Denver defense was decent last year, but there were plenty of games they didn't show up. Tebow's passing numbers weren't great, but he made plays when he needed to (4th quarter and OT), he helped the running game, and the bottom line is he won games.




Simple -- he's not a very good QB in a traditional sense. His passing isn't very good and in practice his skills don't translate. When you're practicing in a pass-oriented offense and you're not a pass-oriented QB, you struggle. He needs the type of run-oriented, option-based offense that they used for him in Denver. He doesn't fit the Jets system beyond their wildcat package.

Nonetheless, I think they made a mistake by not trying him out the way Denver did. What did they have to lose? McElroy clearly isn't the solution and Sanchez isn't either. With Tebow, you at least know he led a winning team the previous year.



I disagree. Sanchez was the only other QB that couldn't complete 50% of his passes half the time, so I don't see a sizeable passing advantage by Sanchez. On top of that, Tebow is a better leader, crunch-time player, and a far superior runner and play action passer. You can't discount all of that when discussing skill.

As for the locker room crap, you're overblowing that. A couple of guys didn't like the way he led because they're whiny crybabies and then the rest of them didn't like the locker room circus that the was caused by the MEDIA, not Tebow.

But if you want to talk about weak schedule and weak AFC West, Manning has 1 less loss than Tebow on a significantly upgraded Denver team. Why all the praise on him if he's on a team with an easy schedule in a bad division that's better than it was last year?

Doesn't have anything to do with College, I have no problem being objectional.

you can whoop, hollar, and what if all you want...the proof is in the pudding..no one wants anything to do with him....

 

[thurley42]

Just because Tebow spanked your beloved Bucknuts a few years ago doesn't mean he's a bad QB. You really need to get over your hatred for him.

The guy took a 1-4 team, led by what most people were calling a pretty good QB in Kyle Orton, and took them to 8-8, then a playoff win. That's a 7-4 record. By comparison, Manning has the team at 13-3. Better, sure, but why heap all the praise on Manning if he has a team that merely needed a competant QB? They made other upgrades to help Manning out.

The Denver defense was decent last year, but there were plenty of games they didn't show up. Tebow's passing numbers weren't great, but he made plays when he needed to (4th quarter and OT), he helped the running game, and the bottom line is he won games.




Simple -- he's not a very good QB in a traditional sense. His passing isn't very good and in practice his skills don't translate. When you're practicing in a pass-oriented offense and you're not a pass-oriented QB, you struggle. He needs the type of run-oriented, option-based offense that they used for him in Denver. He doesn't fit the Jets system beyond their wildcat package.

Nonetheless, I think they made a mistake by not trying him out the way Denver did. What did they have to lose? McElroy clearly isn't the solution and Sanchez isn't either. With Tebow, you at least know he led a winning team the previous year.



I disagree. Sanchez was the only other QB that couldn't complete 50% of his passes half the time, so I don't see a sizeable passing advantage by Sanchez. On top of that, Tebow is a better leader, crunch-time player, and a far superior runner and play action passer. You can't discount all of that when discussing skill.

As for the locker room crap, you're overblowing that. A couple of guys didn't like the way he led because they're whiny crybabies and then the rest of them didn't like the locker room circus that the was caused by the MEDIA, not Tebow.

But if you want to talk about weak schedule and weak AFC West, Manning has 1 less loss than Tebow on a significantly upgraded Denver team. Why all the praise on him if he's on a team with an easy schedule in a bad division that's better than it was last year?

Please don't try to compare that assclown with one of the greatest QB's in the history of football..it makes the rest of your arguement look silly.

 

[Beta84]

Doesn't have anything to do with College, I have no problem being objectional.

you can whoop, hollar, and what if all you want...the proof is in the pudding..no one wants anything to do with him....

The proof is in a 7-4 season with a playoff win. The Jets are a crap team and nobody else wants the media circus that Tebow regretably brings by no fault of his own. It has nothing to do with his performance. He's shown that he can win.

Please don't try to compare that assclown with one of the greatest QB's in the history of football..it makes the rest of your arguement look silly.

All I did was compare two back to back seasons for a team with their two quarterbacks. Obviously Tebow isn't on Manning's level as a passer and Manning has had a great season, but people are trying to say "with Tebow they won 8, with Manning they won 13" when that's wrong, since Tebow only had part of the season. Had they won 10 games (same winning percentage across a 16 game season) and a playoff game, and add the other pieces to the puzzle, it almost makes the Manning acquisition look like 1-2 wins instead of 5.

 

[Larry Gude]

Nonetheless, I think they made a mistake by not trying him out the way Denver did. What did they have to lose? ?

I'm going with Thurley, here. I had not heard the Bronco players were happy to see him go and we certainly have not heard Jet's players grumbling out him not getting a chance this year, even amidst the disaster the season was so, my position has changed to 'there's more to the story and it ain't good'.

 

[Hank]

 

[SG_Player1974]

Maybe old Timmy can play 3rd string for Great Mills

I can tell you for sure what is NOT next for Tim Tebow....

Playing for New England this season

 

[SoMdDude]

Either Tebow plays H-Back or TE, or he slowly fades into the sunset, he is not a starting caliber QB in the NFL

I called it then, and I'll stick by my statement today... he's not a starting caliber QB, he couldnt even be a backup this season, if someone picks him up, its because they lost their game day pastor to lead the team in prayer before games.

 

[puggymom]

CDC Officials Still Trying To Clear Tim Tebow's Stench Of Failure From Patriots Locker Room - ProFootballMock.com - ProFootballMock.com

FOXBOROUGH, MA – Decontamination specialists from the national Center for Disease Control#are still hard at work today inside the New England Patriots locker room, using industrial strength cleansers and other disinfectants to remove the powerful stench of failure from recently released QB Tim Tebow’s former locker, team sources confirmed today.#“The challenge here is to contain the spread of the failure before it infects the other areas of the Patriots’ complex,” said CDC spokesman Carlos Espinoza. “This contamination spreads like a virus, and if we don’t act fast, the entire franchise could soon reek of an ineptitude that might take four to five college drafts to properly cleanse.”

 

[Hank]

Poor guy... Should have worked on his skills instead of a signature move.

 

[Larry Gude]

Poor guy... Should have worked on his skills instead of a signature move.

"Poor guy' is not the first thing that comes to mind when I think of TT.

Not many pro's have their post playing career(s) set after just a few years. Many hang on well past when it might be smart for their health to give it up but, they have no idea what else they can do nor many people beating on their door to do it.

He does.

 

[puggymom]

"Poor guy' is not the first thing that comes to mind when I think of TT.

Not many pro's have their post playing career(s) set after just a few years. Many hang on well past when it might be smart for their health to give it up but, they have no idea what else they can do nor many people beating on their door to do it.

He does.

I bet he makes a killing as a motivational speaker or something.

 

[Beta]

I read something recently where scouts were comparing his current skill level to how he played in college and they said it's not even close. The theory is he took way too many hits and it's taken a major toll on his body. He's apparently not as accurate, strong, or fast as he was before. So if that's the case, then he's already passed his prime. Such a shame. Everyone forgets he had great PASSING stats in college and was a solid QB.

He seemed to have a hard time with accuracy this preseason, but he was on the run because the backup OL he played behind was horrendous. Who knows. Looks like he's done, unless Brady or Mallett gets hurt. Then maybe they'd resign him. I doubt it though.

 

[Larry Gude]

I read something recently where scouts were comparing his current skill level to how he played in college and they said it's not even close. The theory is he took way too many hits and it's taken a major toll on his body. He's apparently not as accurate, strong, or fast as he was before. So if that's the case, then he's already passed his prime. Such a shame. .

He has taken incredible shots. It's just not highlight stuff like a Vick or RGIII getting creamed, rag doll style, because TT is so damn big it looks more like a LB/RB collision or a LB/TE battle, which is what it amounts to and we don't see LB's and RB's and TE's much throwing the ball; the constant battering on their shoulders makes the finer motor skill of throwing accurately problematic.

Good point.

 

[Hank]

He has taken incredible shots. It's just not highlight stuff like a Vick or RGIII getting creamed, rag doll style, because TT is so damn big it looks more like a LB/RB collision or a LB/TE battle, which is what it amounts to and we don't see LB's and RB's and TE's much throwing the ball; the constant battering on their shoulders makes the finer motor skill of throwing accurately problematic.

Good point.

poor guy

 

[Larry Gude]

I bet he makes a killing as a motivational speaker or something.

At minimum. Add to that his potential for product endorsements and a potential corporate job at any number of places just to have him as a positive force on your business team.

Unless, of course, he starts Tiger-ing the place up and flying around in a 35,000 foot high gentlemens clubs.

 

[Larry Gude]

poor guy

Hey, he chose to play the game. All those guys are wrecks. High school, college. Brutal game.

 

[Monello]

Tebow signs with the Philadelphia Eagles

Tim Tebow joins Chip Kelly's quarterback crew

 

[Beta]

Tim Tebow joins Chip Kelly's quarterback crew

Good for him. He got a pretty raw deal. He replaced Kyle Orton as the starter for a 1-4 team, went 7-4 as starter and 1-1 in the playoffs, and then got replaced because Peyton Freaking Manning was available. Orton goes on to play another 3 years as a backup, then finished his career with 1 season as the Bills starter, while Tebow played 1 season with the Jets and then was kicked to the curb (other than the Pats in training camp). Hopefully he'll be given a good chance with Philly. If the chump who went 1-4 as a starter can stick in the league and eventually get another chance to start, surely the guy who went 7-4 with a playoff win is worth a roster spot. There aren't many playoff winning QBs on the streets these days.