Who done it?

[pearlie369]

I have asked this question to many preists, and preachers. None could answer me because they didnt know. I am interested in seeing what is said. One question, really simple.

Who wrote the bible? (In the FIRST place)

 

[mAlice]

Key Word search "who wrote the bible".

 

[pearlie369]

I can go and make a site that says I wrote it, I know thats a lie, you know thats a lie, and I want the truth. Not a bunch of lies.

 

[vraiblonde]

None could answer me because they didnt know.

Sure they do - if a dummy like me knows, a priest or minister surely knows.

The Bible is a collection of writings from various sources and oral history passed down through the generations, either inspired/dictated by God or not, depending on what you believe.

Or am I misunderstanding the question?

 

[Toxick]

I have asked this question to many preists, and preachers. None could answer me because they didnt know. I am interested in seeing what is said. One question, really simple.

Who wrote the bible? (In the FIRST place)

Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers, Deuteronomy: Moses - 1400 B.C.
Joshua = Joshua - 1350 B.C.
Judges, Ruth, 1 Samuel, 2 Samuel = Samuel / Nathan / Gad - 1000 - 900 B.C.
1 Kings, 2 Kings = Jeremiah - 600 B.C.
1 Chronicles, 2 Chronicles, Ezra, Nehemiah = Ezra - 450 B.C.
Esther = Mordecai - 400 B.C.
Job = Moses - 1400 B.C.
Psalms = several different authors, mostly David - 1000 - 400 B.C.
Proverbs, Ecclesiastes, Song of Solomon = Solomon - 900 B.C.
Isaiah = Isaiah - 700 B.C.
Jeremiah, Lamentations = Jeremiah - 600 B.C.
Ezekiel = Ezekiel - 550 B.C.
Daniel = Daniel - 550 B.C.
Hosea = Hosea - 750 B.C.
Joel = Joel - 850 B.C.
Amos = Amos - 750 B.C.
Obadiah = Obadiah - 600 B.C.
Jonah = Jonah - 700 B.C.
Micah = Micah - 700 B.C.
Nahum = Nahum - 650 B.C.
Habakkuk = Habakkuk - 600 B.C.
Zephaniah = Zephaniah - 650 B.C.
Haggai = Haggai - 520 B.C.
Zechariah = Zechariah - 500 B.C.
Malachi = Malachi - 430 B.C.
Matthew = Matthew - 55 A.D.
Mark = John Mark - 50 A.D.
Luke = Luke - 60 A.D.
John = John - 90 A.D.
Acts = Luke - 65 A.D.
Romans, 1 Corinthians, 2 Corinthians, Galatians, Ephesians, Philippians, Colossians, 1 Thessalonians, 2 Thessalonians, 1 Timothy, 2 Timothy, Titus, Philemon = Paul - 50-70 A.D.
Hebrews = unknown: best guesses are Paul, Luke, Barnabas, or Apollos - 65 A.D.
James = James - 45 A.D.
1 Peter, 2 Peter = Peter - 60 A.D.
1 John, 2 John, 3 John = John - 90 A.D.
Jude = Jude - 60 A.D.
Revelation = John - 90 A.D.

 

[2ndAmendment]

Christians believe or at least should, in my opinion (added for the sticklers), believe that the Bible was written by God moving the minds and hands of the actual men that set down the actual written word.

 

[Toxick]

believe that the Bible was written by God moving the minds and hands of the actual men that set down the actual written word.

I think the Old Testament was literally written so.

I believe that He guided the minds and hands of the New Testament authors, by giving them the opportunity to actually witness Jesus first hand, and by giving them the fortitude to share it.

 

[Dupontster]

James Frey.... :shrug:

 

[mAlice]

Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers, Deuteronomy: Moses - 1400 B.C.
Joshua = Joshua - 1350 B.C.
Judges, Ruth, 1 Samuel, 2 Samuel = Samuel / Nathan / Gad - 1000 - 900 B.C.
1 Kings, 2 Kings = Jeremiah - 600 B.C.
1 Chronicles, 2 Chronicles, Ezra, Nehemiah = Ezra - 450 B.C.
Esther = Mordecai - 400 B.C.
Job = Moses - 1400 B.C.
Psalms = several different authors, mostly David - 1000 - 400 B.C.
Proverbs, Ecclesiastes, Song of Solomon = Solomon - 900 B.C.
Isaiah = Isaiah - 700 B.C.
Jeremiah, Lamentations = Jeremiah - 600 B.C.
Ezekiel = Ezekiel - 550 B.C.
Daniel = Daniel - 550 B.C.
Hosea = Hosea - 750 B.C.
Joel = Joel - 850 B.C.
Amos = Amos - 750 B.C.
Obadiah = Obadiah - 600 B.C.
Jonah = Jonah - 700 B.C.
Micah = Micah - 700 B.C.
Nahum = Nahum - 650 B.C.
Habakkuk = Habakkuk - 600 B.C.
Zephaniah = Zephaniah - 650 B.C.
Haggai = Haggai - 520 B.C.
Zechariah = Zechariah - 500 B.C.
Malachi = Malachi - 430 B.C.
Matthew = Matthew - 55 A.D.
Mark = John Mark - 50 A.D.
Luke = Luke - 60 A.D.
John = John - 90 A.D.
Acts = Luke - 65 A.D.
Romans, 1 Corinthians, 2 Corinthians, Galatians, Ephesians, Philippians, Colossians, 1 Thessalonians, 2 Thessalonians, 1 Timothy, 2 Timothy, Titus, Philemon = Paul - 50-70 A.D.
Hebrews = unknown: best guesses are Paul, Luke, Barnabas, or Apollos - 65 A.D.
James = James - 45 A.D.
1 Peter, 2 Peter = Peter - 60 A.D.
1 John, 2 John, 3 John = John - 90 A.D.
Jude = Jude - 60 A.D.
Revelation = John - 90 A.D.

That's on the internet...key word search "who wrote the bible". Why should anyone believe it?

 

[K_Jo]

James Frey.... :shrug:

 

[MMDad]

Sunday at 8 on the History Channel: "Who wrote the Bible"

http://www.historychannel.com/

 

[aps45819]

Some jewish guy

 

[Ken King]

Scribes.

 

[Bustem' Down]

There's actually the possiblility that Matthew, Mark, Luke and John were not written physically by them, but that it was passed by oral tradition and later written. Some historians place the first written record of Matthew for example at something like 60 years after his death. All of this is still unconfirmed because there is such little historical evedince left.

 

[2ndAmendment]

There's actually the possiblility that Matthew, Mark, Luke and John were not written physically by them, but that it was passed by oral tradition and later written. Some historians place the first written record of Matthew for example at something like 60 years after his death. All of this is still unconfirmed because there is such little historical evedince left.

"such little historical evedince left." What a miss statement of fact.

Toxic posted this:

The oldest manuscripts of ancient writers like Aristotle, Plato, Herodotus (among other) amounts to a small number of copies that were made a thousand years or more after the originals were written. There are no more then ten manuscripts of Julius Caesar's Gallic Wars, and the oldest copy of that was written over 900 years later than the original. Scholars accept these documents as adequate reprentations of the originals.

Why not the bible?

The earliest portions of The New Testament date to within just 25 years of the originals. Some nearly complete books of the new testament date to within one century or less from the originals. And we're not even talking about a handful of copies that can be compared with one another to determine accuracy or consistance. There are nearly 25,000 complete manuscripts of the New Testament, with more than 15,000 that date to before the 7th Century A.D. (or C.E. if you prefer). These include 5,300 copies in the original Greek, over 10,000 in Latin Vulgate, 4,100 Slavic tranlations, 2,000 Ethiopian thranslations and about 1,000 other early translations.

Further, in the first centuries after Christ, thousands of letters, and other documents were written in which people quoted from other documents that would later be assembled into what was to become the New Testament.. These quotes are so extensive that even if there wasn't a single bible in existence, you could go back to those letters and documents and using only those written within 250 years after the death of Christ, you could find every word of the New Testament, with the exception of 11 verses.

There are small differences in all those manuscripts - however, all these differences, most are a matter of spelling or word order changes that were made as the styles changed over the ages. In fact a total of only about 200 words, or 1/10 of 1 percent of the entire new testament are subject to more than trivial differences. And no single doctrine of Christiantiy in all it's denominations througout history depend on a piece of disputed text.


As for the Old Testament, the discovey of the Dead Sea Scrolls show that in over 2,000 years those who copied the Old testament were so meticulous that no significant changes were made to the texts. The Dead Sea Scrolls represent a major library of over 800 total documents dating between 250 B.C. to 68 A.D. Every book of the Old Testament is included except for some minor prophets, and Esther.




I can provide citations for all the above facts, if anyone's remotely interested. Might take a while for me to dig that stuff back up though...

 

[MMDad]

Sunday at 8 on the History Channel: "Who wrote the Bible"

http://www.historychannel.com/

Somebody gave me red because they didn't like this joke. Guess what: It wasn't a joke. This show will be on tomorrow night.

 

[fttrsbeerwench]

I watched, "Passion of the Christ" for the first time tonight..
I ran from the room bawling.
I sobbed so hard I hurt myself and what is worse.. After having seen that.. I know in my heart that his pain was that horrible, his persecution that graphic and real, because it all boiled down to the two things I hate about religion most of all... Power and greed, and nearly certain that someone was afraid of what Jesus had to say and merely wanted to get rid of him.
Mind you, I know it's just a movie, but the underlying truth was that men who want power and control, could not see the truth in something so simple and beautiful as Jesus.. Very few saw that in the beginning and few see it now.. THE CHURCH uses Jesus as a selling point these days.. I would blast anyone who would say they would not deny him today if faced with death. Men are weak and scared and easily charmed.

Ask who ever you want about the Bible.. It's a book, written and rewritten a hundred times. When you read it, it reads as any other book does. You interpret it's meaning as it was written by the person who interpretted it before, and so on and so forth.
I don't believe in such a thing as a holy book, not the Koran, the Bible or the Khama Sutra. The word of God is in a person's heart, even crazy people know the reason between right and wrong when they really think about it.
I don't need a book to tell me not to kill people or steal, it's embedded in my soul.

 

[Toxick]

That's on the internet...key word search "who wrote the bible". Why should anyone believe it?

Someone asked a question, I looked for, and found, an answer from a source that I have found to be quite trustworty over the years (The Straight Dope/Cecil Adams).

Incidentally, I have done first-hand research on this particular subject (back in the lazy hazy daze of college), and going by memory, the list appears to coincide with what I have discovered all those years ago.

However, I do not have a bibliography handy, and should you choose to think I'm full of it, that's your prerogotive.

 

[mAlice]

Someone asked a question, I looked for, and found, an answer from a source that I have found to be quite trustworty over the years (The Straight Dope/Cecil Adams).

Incidentally, I have done first-hand research on this particular subject (back in the lazy hazy daze of college), and going by memory, the list appears to coincide with what I have discovered all those years ago.

However, I do not have a bibliography handy, and should you choose to think I'm full of it, that's your prerogotive.

 

[Toxick]

Ok - Woosh indeed.

Since you wooshed me, I went back and read your original response three times, and I can't see any secondary or double-entendre meaning.

I don't get it.

If you weren't saying, "" then what were you saying?