Who will be the Democrat nominee?

Ken King

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Wasn’t there talk of holding a conference call to nominate him before the actual convention? That would explain it
Might be, but that might be a double edge sword - he gets the nomination and "forgets" to drop out.
 

Hessian

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Will they reach for the edges of their party...knowing they are facing an extremely thin chance of success.
Buttgiggles?..."Married"...Fmr Mayor...Veteran Military...Green Agenda...Pro Homo...Cabinet member...and ZERO chance to fire up the base & win.
Gretchen Witmer...Michigan vote stays in Dem category...Woman at the top of the ticket...Aggressive
Andy Beshear...KY Govnr,...champion of African American causes, champion of Abortion rights, education reformer...Climbed up through very tight elections. New face for the Dem party.

NONE of the above will win, but they will attempt to put a brave face on a younger Democratic party. Better choices await 2028.
 

22AcaciaAve

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If Biden is out, which appears very likely, the only person it can logically be replacing him is Kamala Harris. The Biden campaign actually had more fundraising money than Trump through the first quarter. That may not be true now. Even so, that's a lot of money and the only one who can access that is Harris. It would be too big of a disadvantage to put someone out there starting from scratch financially. Then there is the black vote. Bypassing Kamala Harris will surely infuriate them. She checks the woman and the black box. The more interesting question is who will be on the ticket with her?
 

vraiblonde

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If Biden is out, which appears very likely, the only person it can logically be replacing him is Kamala Harris. The Biden campaign actually had more fundraising money than Trump through the first quarter. That may not be true now. Even so, that's a lot of money and the only one who can access that is Harris. It would be too big of a disadvantage to put someone out there starting from scratch financially. Then there is the black vote. Bypassing Kamala Harris will surely infuriate them. She checks the woman and the black box. The more interesting question is who will be on the ticket with her?

Maybe. It's gonna have to be someone who's ready for their career to be over, and she has no place to go anyway.
 

LightRoasted

If I may ...
At this point it's pretty certain it won't be Joe Biden.

Do you think they're stupid enough to make it Kamala? I would pay cash money to watch a Trump/Harris debate. :lol:

I don't think it will be Newsom. He actually wants to be president some day and he knows this election is a big ass loser. I think he'll wait until 2028.

Who will the Democrats throw to the wolves? :popcorn:

It doesn't matter who. There is absolutely no democrat that could even come close to the popularity, tenacity and charisma needed to beat Trump. Especially since all democrats are anti-American, anti-Republic, and anti-Constitution. Any such chosen democrat would be a figurehead only, a place holder, a table mat to be thrown away after use.
 

GURPS

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I don't think it will be Newsom. He actually wants to be president some day and he knows this election is a big ass loser. I think he'll wait until 2028.

I was talking to my mom about this last night, DNC is saving Newsome for a different run, the DNC needs a front, but I think at this point they all know there is NO Beating Trump and if they CHEAT enough to win, Americans will know
 

Bann

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Kamala is going to go down with this ship and she has no choice, either! She could refuse to run (which I doubt they will allow?) and be a LOSER OR she's gonna be ascended into the POTUS role and still go down in history as a LOSER.
 

Morticia

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Saw this as to whom according to polling, were the most popular replacements - and I can guess - why --

The results, published in a draft by Politico on Tuesday, showed all of the alternative candidates ahead of Biden, including Harris. The four who performed best, outpacing Biden by roughly 5 points, were U.S. Senator Mark Kelly from Arizona, Maryland Governor Wes Moore, Pennsylvania Governor Josh Shapiro and Michigan Governor Gretchen Whitmer.

Why those, do you suppose? You will notice of course, that on that short list - neither Kamala's nor Newsom's name appears.

But most of those have close to zero national recognition. Yep. They're "popular" - because no one knows who the hell they are. Heck, I live IN MARYLAND and I don't know crap about Moore.

They're up against the wall legally and financially - they can't get Joe's money UNTIL HE IS NOMINATED and then quits -but at that point, an alternative name on some state ballots is too late. THAT, plus I don't believe they can nominate anyone else until the convention, and if they skip Kamala, a lotta people will be pissed. Lots of DONORS.

Still - I don't like the idea of someone surging ahead of Trump because they pulled a switch late in the game, because their guy was losing.
Please for the love of Maryland. Let it be the worthless Wes Moore.
 

stgislander

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Please for the love of Maryland. Let it be the worthless Wes Moore.
Oh no. Wes Moore is an unknown quantity... like Obama. Dems vote on emotion, and Moore has not done anything yet to turn people off. There are plenty of known worthless Dems to run.
 

SamSpade

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My reading on the Internet is all over the place.

Some polls - probably most - show that replacing Biden won't change much. There's a pile of Dems who will never ever vote for Trump even if he parts the waters and raises the dead - and ditto for Trump supporters. There's also some who just aren't voting even though they have an opinion.

So it doesn't surprise me to see that persuading the Independents - the guys in "the middle" so to speak - won't change things much. They're split, but not evenly, and so, events won't adjust the bigger picture - much. Trump's challenge is to get the Republican voters sitting on the fence - and it looks to be working.

Unless there's an October surprise - don't look for the numbers to do much. The Dem Convention will change things briefly. But that's about it.
 

SamSpade

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The other thing is - whoever replaces Biden isn't going to have ANY different ideas. GOP is a big tent - Dems have a hive mind.

With Dems, it's like flavors of Kool-Aid - they are all the same, just different colors. Don't believe me, try to tell the difference between raspberry and grape, blindfolded. You can't. It's just sugar water. Same with different colored M&Ms. Different appearance, exactly the same.

Dems really don't like differences - at least, not anymore. Used to be, a Dem from the South would support guns and the second amendment. NOT anymore. They're all the same now.
 

stgislander

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So it doesn't surprise me to see that persuading the Independents - the guys in "the middle" so to speak - won't change things much. They're split, but not evenly, and so, events won't adjust the bigger picture - much.
One of the few times I disagree with you Sam. This is strictly a gut feeling, but I fully expect the Dems to pull this out. Why? Because I have no faith that Ind women, especially in swing states, can vote without abortion the issue that drives them to the polls. If somehow Trump can pull them in in large enough numbers, he wins.

I really hope you are seeing something different in the numbers.
 

SamSpade

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One of the few times I disagree with you Sam. This is strictly a gut feeling, but I fully expect the Dems to pull this out. Why? Because I have no faith that Ind women, especially in swing states, can vote without abortion the issue that drives them to the polls. If somehow Trump can pull them in in large enough numbers, he wins.

I really hope you are seeing something different in the numbers.
They're going both ways, and I try to go to more left-leaning sites for this - and it is still both ways. Some ahead, some behind.

Trump's declared position is - let states decide. Yeah, there are conservatives that want a national ban. They're not Trump. To "save" democracy, the most democratic thing I can think of is. let the voters choose. If they want all abortions allowed, they can. If they want it banned - they can. IF they change their mind - they can. The Democrats DON'T WANT THAT. They want their solution across the nation with no voter input. If the voters disagree they will shout "Barabbas" louder (sorry - Biblical reference).

I think Trump will do a world of good if he makes that case, loud and clear. Most of the states that have made abortion illegal - many of those were old laws that came to the fore and were voted down by voter referendum. The Dems have actually issued statements that Trump will have cops on the borders looking for pregnant women who are trying to skirt their state's laws. THAT - is absurd. It's against what he believes, and even if he wanted, it's completely impossible.
 
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