Why are people so rude???

[Ken King]

Originally posted by bknarw


With all due respect, Ken, that's all wrong. The law clearly states that all traffic in the #1 lane is to yield to cars that are traveling faster, regardless of how fast they're going.
I've become quite accustomed to it, and NEVER flash my beams at anyone, but when I drive up there from Richmond every week, I make great time until I hit So. MD! The right lane is for slower traffic, the left lane is for faster traffic, and that's it!
And, just as an added note, I take great delight in giving over the fast lane to the speed demons who rush up behind me. They're usually the ones I see a little further down the road next to the car with the flashing blue lights; then I give them a little honk and a wave!

With all due respect back at you, you are wrong. What are you going by Virginia Law? In Maryland it might be different as Section 21-301 of the Transportation Article states,
(a) On every roadway that is wide enough, a vehicle shall be driven on the right half of the roadway, except:
(1) While overtaking and passing another vehicle going in the same direction, under the rules governing this movement;
(2) Where there is an obstruction that makes it necessary to drive to the left of the center of the highway, but the driver of any vehicle doing so shall yield the right-of-way to any other vehicle that is traveling in the proper direction on the unobstructed part of the highway and is so near as to be an immediate danger;
(3) On a roadway that is divided into three or more clearly marked lanes for vehicular traffic, subject to the rules applicable to these roadways;
(4) On a roadway designated and signposted for one-way traffic; or
(5) On a roadway that is marked or signposted in a manner indicating that a contrary rule exists.

As we are talking about multi-lane roads, marked one-way for their direction of travel it seems that this is an exception to your claim (see (a)(4) above). Additionally, if you read my post I said I wouldn’t clear the way until safe to do so (which is covered in (a)(1) above) as I am already overtaking another vehicle. Additionally, in another section of the Transportation article it states that you may not travel faster then the posted limit. So please if you can direct me to the section of law you are talking about, do so, because I personally don't believe it exists.

 

[Ken King]

Originally posted by AnonymousPenguin


911 is a great thought!! However, I personally don't have too much respect or interest in dealing with the police or EMT. I've been in an ambulance where the EMTs were laughing at me... not very professional at all. The police?... especially in SOMD...I'd rather not deal with. They pull you over for absolutely no reason... and race seems to be an interesting factor associated with the somd police. Since I'm not white, the police don't always work to my advantage.

More importantly, if you call 911 for an emergency, they send an ambulance and take you to the NEAREST hospital... this would not have helped at all. I needed to take my dad to the hospital that treats his condition AND has been treating him, which is NOT the NEAREST hospital.

For several reasons, I found driving to be the best choice.

I really didn't care to go into all these details to point out a simple situation.
As far as letting someone pass by when they request to do so...
I say again...
You don't have to do it... but does it really hurt you to do it??

I think a lot of times a person's selfishness and pride gets in the way of doing something for another individual.

Well Chilly Willy, if you aren't going to use the emergency services then do the speed limit. You do not have the right to place people who have no idea what it is you are doing at risk . When I have dealt with EMS personnel they seem very professional and interested in helping. They have the ability to transmit data to the hospital to get them ready for the patients arrival. While you might not end up at the hospital that you want you will be at one where treatment can begin. In an "emergency" isn't that what's important?

 

[Ken King]

Originally posted by cariblue
Sounds like you guys just said the same thing, only using different words.

Cariblue,

How do you say thay are the same? BKNARW says whenever a faster car comes up behind you you must give way. The law says you don't have to. So please tell me how they are the same.

 

[SxyPrincess]

Originally posted by cariblue
Sounds like you guys just said the same thing, only using different words.

My thoughts exactly!

 

[bknarw]

Okay, first of all, relax a bit.
Secondly, I clearly expressed confusion over the types of road you were discussing.
A four lane highway, with two lanes in each direction, is not a "one way" road, I believe, as outlined in one of your subtitles, sections, or whatever.
The law clearly states that you are to STAY IN THE RIGHT HAND LANE unless passing.
I'm sorry I don't have the traffic code at immediate disposal, but I know that the law clearly defines that you are to stay to the right unless passing. I didn't criticize you for not pulling over when you're passing, although I suspect that you pass very slowly, and therefore probably don't really need to pass at all.
And, you're really missing the point. While you clearly cite traffic law, the original intent expressed was that you can't stand people who come up behind you and want you to get in the right lane. Some feel it necessary to slow down or do spiteful things simply because you don't like it when they try to get around you.
The point is that if you're going slowly in the left lane, and people are trying to get around you, YOU are a hazard. You need to get in the right lane and quit playing games with people's lives on the highway. You need to get over the ego thing and just do what you should do and quit worry about the nth degree of the law.

Just to clarify, however, I HATE tailgaters myself. If I'm on a road with traffic traveling one lane in each direction, and I'm doing the speed limit, I don't make special exceptions for those exceeding the speed limit. As I even said, I like to pull over just to watch them get pulled by the cops later down the road.
However, not using common sense just because you've decided to be a hardass about it makes you the dangerous one, and that's where you and Joey are simply wrong!

 

[Ken King]

Originally posted by bknarw
Okay, first of all, relax a bit.
Secondly, I clearly expressed confusion over the types of road you were discussing.
A four lane highway, with two lanes in each direction, is not a "one way" road, I believe, as outlined in one of your subtitles, sections, or whatever.

You relax, and the roads are marked as one-way. Ever seen "do not enter", "wrong way", or an arrow pointing in one direction saying with the words "one way" on it. Ever guess what any of those mean?

 

[LPMEDIC]

my turn

Ok,

I have heard all of your ideas and opinions and I have kept quiet so far. I just want to know one thing.. Where in the world does it say that you are allowed to SPEED and break the law just because you want to drive in the left or FAST lane. The last time I checked the speed limit was for the entire road.......

As far as the EMS issue, get with it you guys... The system is for EMERGENCIES!!!!! If you are so concerned about what hospital you are taken to then it is NOT an emergency. You may think so, but for those of us involved the system works. If it is necessary to get someone to a higher level of care then we as EMS providers have the resources to make it happen.. i.e.. helicopters.. Don't forget, the people on that ambulance aren't doing it for the $$$$$$ hence the term VOLUNTEER........ In an emergency the main thing is to get the patient to the care needed. Unfortunately we live in a rural community and don't have the luxury of picking and choosing what hospital an ambulance goes to..

 

[M Bucker]

Here's the thing, we all know that it is common curtousey to get in the right lane if a faster driver comes up behind you in the left lane. When people are like "Oh, I'll stay in the whatever lane I want because I'm doing the speed limit" you're just being an enormous ass!!!!! It may not be a law but it is just common decency and all of you playing devil's advocate or not getting out of the way are just doing it to be a pain. Hope it makes you happy.

 

[bknarw]

Originally posted by M Bucker
Here's the thing, we all know that it is common curtousey to get in the right lane if a faster driver comes up behind you in the left lane. When people are like "Oh, I'll stay in the whatever lane I want because I'm doing the speed limit" you're just being an enormous ass!!!!! It may not be a law but it is just common decency and all of you playing devil's advocate or not getting out of the way are just doing it to be a pain. Hope it makes you happy.

Well said, Bucker, and your choice of words was much more economical than mine!

And, while I agree with what most of what was said about the emergency services , I'm NOT a huge speeder, but I do exceed the limit because I know I can operate safely at certain speeds. The day the cops quit driving over the limit ALL OF THE TIME (regardless of whether they're on a call) will be the day I strictly adhere to the speed limit.

 

[RoseRed]

Originally posted by cariblue
just in case someone would like to point out to me that one person did in fact say "speeding", I'm speaking for the average guy on the road who IS doing the speed limit and would like to pass the guy in the right lane that is going 10-15 mph UNDER the speed limit....then you often have a guy in the left lane, matching speed with the guy in the right lane, and no one will let you by. Rude. Inconsiderate.

That's my beef and that's all I've got to say about that!

AMEN!! I completey agree with you!

 

[LPMEDIC]

new topic

While we are on the subject of driving, how about those of you that insist on holding a cell phone to your head while cruising down the road. Maybe that's why you don't pay attention and move over like you should

 

[bknarw]

ZERO tolerance for idiots messing up in traffic while on their cell phones...ZERO!

 

[AnonymousPenguin]

Re: my turn

Originally posted by LPMEDIC
As far as the EMS issue, get with it you guys... The system is for EMERGENCIES!!!!! If you are so concerned about what hospital you are taken to then it is NOT an emergency. You may think so, but for those of us involved the system works. If it is necessary to get someone to a higher level of care then we as EMS providers have the resources to make it happen.. i.e.. helicopters.. Don't forget, the people on that ambulance aren't doing it for the $$$$$$ hence the term VOLUNTEER........ In an emergency the main thing is to get the patient to the care needed. Unfortunately we live in a rural community and don't have the luxury of picking and choosing what hospital an ambulance goes to..

Woah... hold up!!!
First:
Just because the hospital is important...does not make a situation any less of an emergency. There are hospitals that do not treat all illnesses. Untill you know the exact medical circumstances, it is not upon YOU to decide whether it is or it is not an emergency. For you, it may just be another life....another patient... no big deal!!! For the patient's family, it is not the same. So, don't judge so harshly....without any sympathy... until you can experience the dangers of a loved one's health!!!

Second:
Just because they are VOLUNTEERS....gives them a right to behave as they chose? I think NOT!!! ...when an ambulance responds to an emergency, I don't think it is too much to ask the EMT guys to treat their patients w/ respect.... ie...not laughing at them. This is not a requirement of a job.... it is human decency!!

Third:
In any area... you are not able to choose the hospital...rural or not. I have no complaints against that... it makes sense to take the person to the nearest hospital until the doctor's are able to make a decision. However, knowing about a chronic illness and the conditions involved.... I am able to avoid the ambulance crap if it is of no benefit.

What some people lack... HUMAN DECENCY.

 

[LPMEDIC]

Re: Re: my turn

First.. It IS up to me to decide on the status of the Emergency.. As a medic I am trained to assess the situation and handle it accordingly. So I will decide if the patient needs to go to a specialty center. We have protocols that direct us to act accordingly depending on the emergency. True, there are some things that just cannot be handled at certain hospitals. But as a 911 ambulance WE cannot control certain things. When YOU decide to call 911 then you have to realize that those EMTs can only do so much. That's reason for getting to closest hospital the fastest and let the Doctors make the ultimate decision on the disposition on the patient.

 

[LPMEDIC]

Re: Re: my turn

Speaking for myself, I treat ALL my patients will respect and compassion.. Sure there are some EMS people out there that are less than professional. You can't do anything about that. But also I do try to get my patients to feel better, and YES if they can LAUGH then that's GREAT!!! If I can take their mind off their illness or injury for the brief time I am with them then I WILL DO IT. ** and I HAVE personally dealt with loved ones health having my Grandmother pass away from cancer and my youner brother killed in a car wreck all within 4 months of eah other.

If you chose to avoid the ambulance issue then fine, there are commercial ambulance services that will take you from door to door where you want to go..

 

[AnonymousPenguin]

Originally posted by M Bucker
Here's the thing, we all know that it is common curtousey to get in the right lane if a faster driver comes up behind you in the left lane. When people are like "Oh, I'll stay in the whatever lane I want because I'm doing the speed limit" you're just being an enormous ass!!!!! It may not be a law but it is just common decency and all of you playing devil's advocate or not getting out of the way are just doing it to be a pain. Hope it makes you happy.

My sentiments exactly!!


I don't care to discuss the particular situation I brought up any more. It is a very sensitive subject for me...and I don't need to justify to any of you why I chose to respond the way I did.

I notice that most of you have brought up laws, rules of the road, emergency procedures.... all of which I feel are completely unnecessary to the subject of the thread!....
The subject of the thread being "why are people so rude???"
Being rude is not against the law... it is about humans respecting one and another... considering each other.

So, to answer the question... "why are people so rude???"...
Obviously, as this thread has shown...
people are so rude because people are pre-occupied with laws and blah blah blah.... they are worried about what they HAVE to do... what is REQUIRED of them....
and kindness is forgetten!!! sad...

 

[AnonymousPenguin]

Re: Re: Re: my turn

Originally posted by LPMEDIC
When YOU decide to call 911 then you have to realize that those EMTs can only do so much.

THAT is exactly why I chose NOT to call 911.

 

[LPMEDIC]

Re: Re: Re: Re: my turn

So you will choose to put your loved ones at risk by NOT calling 911 and delaying them getting medical attention that they may urgently need.. Glad I am not related to you!!!

THAT is exactly why I chose NOT to call 911. [/B][/QUOTE]

 

[AnonymousPenguin]

Re: Re: Re: my turn

Originally posted by LPMEDIC
I do try to get my patients to feel better, and YES if they can LAUGH then that's GREAT!!!

There is nothing wrong with that. That is not the type of circumstance I speak of. When I said laugh, I was referring to EMTs making fun of and laughing at an unconscious person... SICK!!

Ofcourse this is not to say that all EMTs are sick... it is just to say that MY personal experience has not been so pleasant...

 

[Ken King]

Chilly Willy,

Isn't it equally rude to come flying up behind someone, flash your lights expecting them to read your mind that something critical is going on when you could have called 911, got an ambulance, and had the lights and sirens blaze the way for you where everyone knows it is an emergency and moves out of the way.