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vraiblonde

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I have someone who comes up as CBE Group calling my work number about a thousand times a day. It's a debt collection agency looking for someone who is not me and who I've never heard of. The first time I answered I figured it was just a wrong number and told them there was nobody named so-and-so at this number. The second time I told them to stop calling here and take my number off their list because THERE WAS NO ONE NAMED SO-AND-SO AT THIS FREAKING NUMBER.

They continue to call every single day. This has been going on for weeks and now I don't even bother to answer. I either ignore it or hit the Talk and let them listen to air.

Why do spammer orgs do that? I can think of no reason except for the pure harassment of it. Obviously it's a robocall, but what is the purpose of that? Do they think so-and-so is suddenly going to magically appear in my office? Are they just trying to piss me off? There must be money involved in some form - that is what always motivates these callers/spammers/junk mail idiots - but I cannot think for the life of me how that would transpire.

Anyone?
 

twinoaks207

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I have someone who comes up as CBE Group calling my work number about a thousand times a day. It's a debt collection agency looking for someone who is not me and who I've never heard of. The first time I answered I figured it was just a wrong number and told them there was nobody named so-and-so at this number. The second time I told them to stop calling here and take my number off their list because THERE WAS NO ONE NAMED SO-AND-SO AT THIS FREAKING NUMBER.

They continue to call every single day. This has been going on for weeks and now I don't even bother to answer. I either ignore it or hit the Talk and let them listen to air.

Why do spammer orgs do that? I can think of no reason except for the pure harassment of it. Obviously it's a robocall, but what is the purpose of that? Do they think so-and-so is suddenly going to magically appear in my office? Are they just trying to piss me off? There must be money involved in some form - that is what always motivates these callers/spammers/junk mail idiots - but I cannot think for the life of me how that would transpire.

Anyone?

Annoying, isn't it? Do you have a good old-fashioned gym whistle? If so, use it. And then contact your phone company to see if you can have the number blocked.
 

MadDogMarine

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I have someone who comes up as CBE Group calling my work number about a thousand times a day. It's a debt collection agency looking for someone who is not me and who I've never heard of. The first time I answered I figured it was just a wrong number and told them there was nobody named so-and-so at this number. The second time I told them to stop calling here and take my number off their list because THERE WAS NO ONE NAMED SO-AND-SO AT THIS FREAKING NUMBER.

They continue to call every single day. This has been going on for weeks and now I don't even bother to answer. I either ignore it or hit the Talk and let them listen to air.

Why do spammer orgs do that? I can think of no reason except for the pure harassment of it. Obviously it's a robocall, but what is the purpose of that? Do they think so-and-so is suddenly going to magically appear in my office? Are they just trying to piss me off? There must be money involved in some form - that is what always motivates these callers/spammers/junk mail idiots - but I cannot think for the life of me how that would transpire.

Anyone?

This is a robocall with a live person on the other end?Correct?
Next time they call, take the time to talk to them and ask for the name of their organization and the caller 's name you are talking to. Then tell them you want(demand) written verification of the debt they are alleging you owe.(it is required they respond in writing-it is the law)
It is important you use the term "verification" because that invokes the FDCPA(Fair Debt Collection Procedure Act)
Once a demand for verification(or validation) exists, and you respond in writing,the law states they MUST CEASE AND DESIST from all collection activities immediately pending debt verification.
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Read the law here and maybe even cite the law to them so they know you know!
The Fair Debt Collection Practices Act
§ 809. Validation of debts [15 USC 1692g]

(a) Within five days after the initial communication with a consumer in connection with the collection of any debt, a debt collector shall, unless the following information is contained in the initial communication or the consumer has paid the debt, send the consumer a written notice containing --

(1) the amount of the debt;

(2) the name of the creditor to whom the debt is owed;

(3) a statement that unless the consumer, within thirty days after receipt of the notice, disputes the validity of the debt, or any portion thereof, the debt will be assumed to be valid by the debt collector;

(4) a statement that if the consumer notifies the debt collector in writing within the thirty-day period that the debt, or any portion thereof, is disputed, the debt collector will obtain verification of the debt or a copy of a judgment against the consumer and a copy of such verification or judgment will be mailed to the consumer by the debt collector; and

(5) a statement that, upon the consumer's written request within the thirty-day period, the debt collector will provide the consumer with the name and address of the original creditor, if different from the current creditor.

(b) If the consumer notifies the debt collector in writing within the thirty-day period described in subsection (a) that the debt, or any portion thereof, is disputed, or that the consumer requests the name and address of the original creditor, the debt collector shall cease collection of the debt, or any disputed portion thereof, until the debt collector obtains verification of the debt or any copy of a judgment, or the name and address of the original creditor, and a copy of such verification or judgment, or name and address of the original creditor, is mailed to the consumer by the debt collector.

(c) The failure of a consumer to dispute the validity of a debt under this section may not be construed by any court as an admission of liability by the consumer.

I will tell you how to deal with robo messages on another post if that is a problem.
 

tommyjo

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I have someone who comes up as CBE Group calling my work number about a thousand times a day. It's a debt collection agency looking for someone who is not me and who I've never heard of. The first time I answered I figured it was just a wrong number and told them there was nobody named so-and-so at this number. The second time I told them to stop calling here and take my number off their list because THERE WAS NO ONE NAMED SO-AND-SO AT THIS FREAKING NUMBER.

They continue to call every single day. This has been going on for weeks and now I don't even bother to answer. I either ignore it or hit the Talk and let them listen to air.

Why do spammer orgs do that? I can think of no reason except for the pure harassment of it. Obviously it's a robocall, but what is the purpose of that? Do they think so-and-so is suddenly going to magically appear in my office? Are they just trying to piss me off? There must be money involved in some form - that is what always motivates these callers/spammers/junk mail idiots - but I cannot think for the life of me how that would transpire.

Anyone?

If all you have done is said "no one by that name here" or let them "listen to air, why do you have any expectation that they will stop calling?
 

vraiblonde

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Marine, they are not looking for me. They are not alleging that *I* owe anything. They don't ask for me, nor did they try to sell me anything once I informed them that the person they were looking for is not at this number.

If all you have done is said "no one by that name here" or let them "listen to air, why do you have any expectation that they will stop calling?

That is my question: why would they continue to call?
 

MadDogMarine

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Marine, they are not looking for me. They are not alleging that *I* owe anything. They don't ask for me, nor did they try to sell me anything once I informed them that the person they were looking for is not at this number.

It doesn't matter they are looking for you or not. You are in their database AS A MATTER OF RECORD! They may not even have your address, There is NO reason for them to stop calling unless you give them a reason by invoking the FDCPA, You have to make it clear to them you are not a pushover or easy target. The callers are usually paid by commission and many of them make repeated calls thinking this may be the one that hits.
I had this same thing happen to me. Illegal immigrants getting a loan and using a business line as a contact number for the loan company. They skip town and the calls come to the business. They don't want to give the loan company a private number so tell them they can contact them at work, hence the need for a business number. The stupid loan company buys the applicant as legitimate since applicant didn't hesitate to give them a contact phone number that can be checked as legitimate.
These people for the most part are trained on the FDCPA and know when someone invokes it. By a simple computer click they can remove your phone number to a "uncollectable" file. Responding in writing establishes a paper trail that THEY KNOW could end up in litigation. They are sued all the time over this stuff and will make an effort to avoid it. BY not demanding verification, they will continue collection because the law says they can. These people are brain dead and if you are in their system, they will call,usually by robocall.
Just asking for a verification may be enough for them to stop since they make most of their money from phone calls. You can't just ignore debt collectors and expect them to go away. It costs them very little to harass and call you, and they think the next call will hit gold!
People need to learn the law and start using it to their advantage.


One additional comment. Don't you realize that the majority of all their "legitimate" calls they make, the person answering the phone says "no one here by that name" Their assumption is you are saying what everyone else is saying and you are lying. They don't go away that easy-sorry!
 
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MadDogMarine

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I just checked on CBE. They are a legitimate collection agency.
Here is their address.
Corporate Office and Operational Center
PO Box 900
Waterloo, IA 50704

Send them a letter stating you are receiving calls(give them your number) and no one by that name lives here. Then, based upon that fact, demand verification of this alleged debt and that this person lives here. Absent verification, you demand your number be removed immediately per the FDCPA. On the bottom of the letter place a comment that says
cc:litigation file!

Cost to you - one first class stamp.

If you obtain an account number from the caller, The home office says they will take your call at (866) 912-1312 regarding that account.
But you will need the account number they are collecting on and the caller should have no hesitation supplying it.
 
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vraiblonde

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I don't want to write letters and make phone calls trying to get these people to stop calling. They can call all day for all I care. This isn't my problem and I have no interest in spending one second of my time resolving something that has nothing to do with me.

I'm just curious why they keep calling a zillion times a day when this is a business line and I've already told them there is no one here by that name. It seems a waste of their time and money for them to continue calling, yet they do it anyway. That makes no sense.
 

MadDogMarine

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I don't want to write letters and make phone calls trying to get these people to stop calling. They can call all day for all I care. This isn't my problem and I have no interest in spending one second of my time resolving something that has nothing to do with me.

I'm just curious why they keep calling a zillion times a day when this is a business line and I've already told them there is no one here by that name. It seems a waste of their time and money for them to continue calling, yet they do it anyway. That makes no sense.

So wasting my time trying to help does make sense??
 

vraiblonde

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So wasting my time trying to help does make sense??

I am starting to doubt my ability to communicate in what I thought was my native language.

I appreciate your suggestions, but I'm interested in why they continue to call when a) this is a business line; b) it is clearly a business line; and c) I have already told them that the person they are trying to reach does not work here, nor have they ever worked here. You'd think they'd try calling somewhere else to find this person. Perhaps somewhere he actually *is*. It makes no sense for them to continue to call here and I was curious if maybe there is a reason, like they get paid by the call whether they connect or not.

I know that if I were trying to get ahold of someone, and the person who answered the phone said they were not at that number, I wouldn't call there again. Especially if it were long distance.

*ringring*
Good afternoon, Virtually Everything Southern Maryland Online
Hello, may I speak to Enrique Delgado?
I'm sorry, there is no one here by that name.
Okay, thank you.
*click*

(an hour later)

*ringring*
Good afternoon, Virtually Everything Southern Maryland Online
Hello, may I speak to Enrique Delgado?
I'm sorry, there is no one here by that name.
Okay, thank you.
*click*

(another hour later)

*ringring*
Good afternoon, Virtually Everything Southern Maryland Online
Hello, may I speak to Enrique Delgado?
I already told you freaking morons there was nobody here by that name.
Okay, thank you.
*click*

(two hours later)

*ringring*

It makes absolutely no sense.
 

Bann

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This has to be most annoying for you, since it's a business line. We just screen our calls here, with the answering machine. I have had the same number for 8 years, and for 8 years the bill collectors call for same person(s) who apparently had the same number years ago. They never quit calling! The extra bonus fun is when it is an automated recorded call and they "threaten" you by saying it is a confidential call & if I am not "Gail Bynum" I should hang up immediately. :jet:

A few years ago, I got bill collector calls for my EX, who has never lived in this house, and who's name has never been on *this* loan! I gave him HIS phone number and address in Florida and they have never bothered me again. :lol:
 

vraiblonde

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The extra bonus fun is when it is an automated recorded call and they "threaten" you by saying it is a confidential call & if I am not "Gail Bynum" I should hang up immediately.

That's what this recording says. So I hang up as I'm told, only to have them call right straight back.

:banghead:

There has to be a better method of debt collection because I cannot imagine that calling people who aren't the person you're looking for or playing a recording that they're going to hang up on can possibly be effective. That's why I was wondering if there was more to it; some other motive for them to be calling incessantly.
 

MMM_donuts

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So, I've gone through this with my mother. When the debt collectors couldn't reach her they would call anyone publicly listed as a relative. They wouldn't believe me when I stated that I didn't have contact with her or could provide any information about her and they wouldn't remove me from their phone list. To this day, I occasionally get something in the mail about her even though she has filed bankruptcy.

I think they do this hoping that they'll trip you up and eventually get some information out of you. And if that doesn't happen, they're going to annoy the crap out of you until you give them information out of sheer frustration just to get them off your back. I don't think they believe you when you say it's the wrong number.
 

Baja28

Obama destroyed America
What I have learned from this thread is if I get one of these calls, I will make $hit up to give them. :yay:
 

nobody really

I need a nap
What I have learned from this thread is if I get one of these calls, I will make $hit up to give them. :yay:

yeah really...."oh he's not here right now, how much does he owe? i'll get that amount right out to you, and just for your trouble i'll buy lunch for you and your whore of a mother". I'd def have fun with them.

:killingme
 
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