Why do....

[Bird Dog]

young wannabee street rodders in rice burners with loud mufflers think they can still challenge an All American V8????

It is laughable as the sound of their mufflers trail off into the distance behind you, especially in second gear.

Is it an age thing or is it they never had the chance to drive something with 425hp and bigger gears than their engines?

 

[Gwydion]

I was a wannabe wannabe (note two) street racer. I thanfully never wasted the money on my last car. But I always thought it was funny walking into high school. You could hear these guys from a mile away come pouring in. You'd ask them what they were runnin and it was -all- stock, except for the muffler. And even then it wasn't a muffler, 99% of the time it was a screw on pipe that actually INHIBITED airflow to make the noise.....taking away from their 110 hp cars.

One guy at school had a 67 gto. He wasn't a racer, but he never backed down from some tool revving his engine at the lights. By the time the rice burner got through the intersection, the goat was a good half mile down the road.

 

[Mousebaby]

I saw one of the funniest things on the rode yesterday. It was a cavalier with a whale fin and a huge muffler and exhaust pipes. He started down the road and it sounded like my husband farting. I thought I was going to die laughing.

I will never back down from a little snot in a 4 banger either. I love Hammy's challenging my Hemi!

 

[DreamBlaze]

young wannabee street rodders in rice burners with loud mufflers think they can still challenge an All American V8????

It is laughable as the sound of their mufflers trail off into the distance behind you, especially in second gear.

Is it an age thing or is it they never had the chance to drive something with 425hp and bigger gears than their engines?

Adding lightness works, but they don't have the $$ to put into the new motors. It's a culture, just like motorcycles, rat rods, and the like. There are muscle car killers out there lurking, but they are most likely given away by the sound of turbo's and chargers or the smell of nitros

 

[Gtmustang88]

Wouldn't know, i have always had v8 american muscle, except for my 4 banger lx which was completely bone stock and was my daily driver in college.

 

[MrX]

I guess its beacause they have heard some ricer buddy of theirs claiming to "always beat XXX domestic car" when in reality they only passed them in traffic or the car in question wasnt actually racing. So they think that because their ricer buddy can beat those cars, that their car will too. Then it manifests to all the others. Granted there are some very quick imports running around, the majority of them are not.

 

[blazinlow89]

young wannabee street rodders in rice burners with loud mufflers think they can still challenge an All American V8????

It is laughable as the sound of their mufflers trail off into the distance behind you, especially in second gear.

Is it an age thing or is it they never had the chance to drive something with 425hp and bigger gears than their engines?

Its pretty sad considering that my 2.5 ton SUV can keep up with or beat some of them.

 

[Michael Delaney]

Some of them can. look up STI's, Evo's, etc...
Add a few turns, and my STI will pulverize most American V8 vehicles.

young wannabee street rodders in rice burners with loud mufflers think they can still challenge an All American V8????

It is laughable as the sound of their mufflers trail off into the distance behind you, especially in second gear.

Is it an age thing or is it they never had the chance to drive something with 425hp and bigger gears than their engines?

 

[Geek]

I saw one of the funniest things on the rode yesterday. It was a cavalier with a whale fin and a huge muffler and exhaust pipes. He started down the road and it sounded like my husband farting. I thought I was going to die laughing.

I will never back down from a little snot in a 4 banger either. I love Hammy's challenging my Hemi!

 

[Gwydion]

Some of them can. look up STI's, Evo's, etc...
Add a few turns, and my STI will pulverize most American V8 vehicles.

I <3 WRXs...although I think the gold wheels on the STIs look absolutely horrific. My brother had a non-STI when he was living up in Boston...we threw on some off road tires and when crazy when the snow hit.

 

[KillJoy]

Ricers ARE annoying, but you have to be able to establish the difference between ricers, and tuners. I love cars that are domestic, as well as imports. There are a few sleepers running around here that I know personally, as well as tuned imports that are pushing great numbers.

Ever driven a 1100whp street legal Supra? I have. We were cruising down I-5 outside of Newman, CA one night last summer and I had one of these ever-so-praised All American v8 pull up and challenge. His attempt was cute. Tuner.

Alright, I'll jump off that. I've got a friend driving around in a GSX; no body kit, no neons, no 6ft spoiler, no ridiculous sound system. It's funny how his engine is pushing double the numbers of a v8, with half the engine. 510whp/495wtq isn't bad, right? Tuner.

Although, there are always the few kids who put a bad name on imports. When a kid drops into the store to pick up the latest Fast and the Furious (I hate the series with a passion) after picking up his civic that he found on autotrader, it's a lethal combination. That produces what you see sitting in a lot of local parking lot: civics, cavaliers, v6 stangs and v6 camaros. All of whom have euro tail lights, ebay exhausts, and ridiculous body kits and spoilers. They seem to red-line their car wherever they go. Ricer (both imports and some domestics).

I will say that some body kits and spoilers have potential on some cars, but not all. I do not drive a tuner car, import or domestic. I do not feel the need to. I know my fair share about both worlds and love it. I've driven anything from 400+ whp civics, integras, evo's, sti's, bmw's, and wrx's to domestic engines putting out the same amount. I love the potential that all cars in the import and domestic world, as long as its done right.

If you think I am calling anyone out, you're wrong.

 

[glhs837]

Yep, there's fast and slow everything. My Neon was just as fast as my 425hp V8. Took about 4K, and two days labor by myself alone to install a Mopar kit.

Automobile mag tested a car equipped to mine, you can read it here.

Dodge Neon SRT4 Stage 3 - Road Test & Review - Automobile Magazine

How common? Well, two years ago, there were three Neons with this kit in St Marys alone, and two of them had extras beyond that, making them faster than the average 425hp v8.

Where are they now? Mine was sold to someone in FL, one still lives here, and the other was sold off to I dont know where. As noted before, theres ricers, and theres tuners. You dont know whats inside (mostly), til you see it run. Theres at least two civics around here would take my SRT-8s lunch money with ease.

 

[Dougstermd]

Some of them can. look up STI's, Evo's, etc...
Add a few turns, and my STI will pulverize most American V8 vehicles.

oh and i am soo shakin in my boots... over a subaru

 

[Baja28]

Here's a proposal to all those who wanna brag

Since all the rice burners brag how powerful they're lil rags are, lets spend dollar to dollar based on cost of the car to enhance performance.

If your ricer costs $18K stock and you drop $4K in tune ups, that's 23% of the cost of your car.

Now I get to take my $60K vette and spend 23% ($13.8K) in tune up's.

1. My stock vette would kick your ass.
2. Still wanna meet me at the track???

 

[MrX]

Ricers ARE annoying, but you have to be able to establish the difference between ricers, and tuners. I love cars that are domestic, as well as imports. There are a few sleepers running around here that I know personally, as well as tuned imports that are pushing great numbers.

Ever driven a 1100whp street legal Supra? I have. We were cruising down I-5 outside of Newman, CA one night last summer and I had one of these ever-so-praised All American v8 pull up and challenge. His attempt was cute. Tuner.

Alright, I'll jump off that. I've got a friend driving around in a GSX; no body kit, no neons, no 6ft spoiler, no ridiculous sound system. It's funny how his engine is pushing double the numbers of a v8, with half the engine. 510whp/495wtq isn't bad, right? Tuner.

Although, there are always the few kids who put a bad name on imports. When a kid drops into the store to pick up the latest Fast and the Furious (I hate the series with a passion) after picking up his civic that he found on autotrader, it's a lethal combination. That produces what you see sitting in a lot of local parking lot: civics, cavaliers, v6 stangs and v6 camaros. All of whom have euro tail lights, ebay exhausts, and ridiculous body kits and spoilers. They seem to red-line their car wherever they go. Ricer (both imports and some domestics).

I will say that some body kits and spoilers have potential on some cars, but not all. I do not drive a tuner car, import or domestic. I do not feel the need to. I know my fair share about both worlds and love it. I've driven anything from 400+ whp civics, integras, evo's, sti's, bmw's, and wrx's to domestic engines putting out the same amount. I love the potential that all cars in the import and domestic world, as long as its done right.

If you think I am calling anyone out, you're wrong.

Not funny, its called forced induction. Its also an apples to oranges comparison since you are obviously comparing a pretty well modded 4cyl to a unmodded v8 (dont know of any v8s that are as modded that only make 200 hp). Not taking anything away from imports, as with anything , if you throw enough money, time, and work at it....it will make a decent amount of power.

There are plenty of ricers that drive domestics too, no doubt about it. Just like with imports, there are also domestics that are pretty quick too.

 

[KMPaddy2255]

Not funny, its called forced induction. Its also an apples to oranges comparison since you are obviously comparing a pretty well modded 4cyl to a unmodded v8 (dont know of any v8s that are as modded that only make 200 hp). Not taking anything away from imports, as with anything , if you throw enough money, time, and work at it....it will make a decent amount of power.

There are plenty of ricers that drive domestics too, no doubt about it. Just like with imports, there are also domestics that are pretty quick too.

Remember my ZX2? I miss that car!!!!

 

[MrX]

Remember my ZX2? I miss that car!!!!

lol... of course i remember it.

 

[KillJoy]

Not funny, its called forced induction. Its also an apples to oranges comparison since you are obviously comparing a pretty well modded 4cyl to a unmodded v8 (dont know of any v8s that are as modded that only make 200 hp). Not taking anything away from imports, as with anything , if you throw enough money, time, and work at it....it will make a decent amount of power.

There are plenty of ricers that drive domestics too, no doubt about it. Just like with imports, there are also domestics that are pretty quick too.

I'm aware of the forced induction fact. While I was visiting a friend down in TX last year he got stomped in his GT with 6k of work by an RSX (S) that was non-turbo. I'm trying to point out that not all cars with a Honda/Acura/Mitsu. emblem and exhaust should be known as just a car with a fart can. I don't know why I said double (must have been in a different state of mind) that the power of a v8 and you're right. I meant that I have yet to see a v8 (with work) keep up.

Speaking of forced induction, you might like this. My uncle might sell me his '86 SVO Stang within the next two or three months. It's in decent shape but needs a little work and some TLC. It'll make a great project.

 

[KillJoy]

You could hear these guys from a mile away come pouring in.

Worst part is that if it's not the exhaust you hear a mile away, it's the sound system. I'm guilty of having a sound system but it is small (200w amp) and I only used it for sound quality, not loudness. I normally drive with it at between 1/4 and 3/4 the way up depending where I am; I always turn it down very low (maybe at 3-4) if I'm coming to a stop with other cars around, or in a parking lot.

 

[G1G4]

My mom beat some tool in the gheyest looking purple Integra I've ever seen. He got to the light at Chancellors and 235 and tried to rev at her. He took off and bottomed out. If you think you have a sweet car, you could atleast learn how to drive it.