you are an arrogant little twit, onel. This is in response to the other thread you posted. Like I said, we have been over this, so been there and done that. To think you can command someone to answer you, and only answer you in the way you chose is beyond condescension and smarminess. Once one is dead, and in hell (either the bosum of Abraham if you are saved), or in that other lost place separated by the, as we Protestants call it as referred to in the Bible, but which you call purgatory, which has no biblical reference at all. Once one is dead, and in hell/hades (either the bosum of Abraham if you are saved), or the other part of hell/hades for the lost, there ain't no getting out of either side for the soul. One is stuck for eternity. You show me, from a catholic source, that purgatory is not a real place in the catholic mind or creed that one's soul can be recovered or "purified" from lost eternity in hell to be with the Father in heaven. Must be a really, really powerful and conceited person to know that the work of Jesus on the cross was not sufficient for anyone to get into heaven, but that human efforts from here on earth have the power to change God's plan for the soul. More power to ya, onel!