Why I am a Calvinist

[camily]

I'm a pre-trib'er and not a Calvinist so I guess I have nothing to contribute here.....

 

[Railroad]

Yo Railroad! I personally believe that Calvinism negates the Gospel Message of Christ (John 3:16-18) and many others where Scripture mentions that people are called to repentance and to believe upon the Name of God's Only Begotten Son, Jesus Christ for the Salvation of their soul.

I personally believe that Calvinism negates Scriptures where Jesus said that He came to save sinners of which all mankind are and that He will not turn anyone away if they call upon His Name.

Words need not be said since, in your personal view, that would make me be "misguided" because I don't agree with the Calvinist teaching that God has predestined souls to Heaven or Hell through His Choice.

One thing is for sure, if I was living in the day of John Calvin and boldly expressed my oppostion to his teaching (as I do here) you can bet he would be gathering some green wood and matches to have me burned at the stake. Would you and Zguy28 help him light the fire?

Nope. Your personal beliefs are between you and God, and it's not my place to judge you in any way. By the way, if Calvin was the fellow he has been described as, I'd have nothing to do with him; he'd be a poisonous man regardless of his professed beliefs. I separate the beliefs from the person. My relationship with the Lord has grown and continues to grow, partly because every time I see His hand at work (and that's pretty frequently), I praise Him. The communication is cool, because He has used silent and very eloquent and powerful expressions of His thoughts, and sometimes there's no doubt it's in response to my prayer. I have no doubt that He knows where my knowledge and ideas are flawed, but He hasn't rejected me because of it, and so I believe that we who know Him and believe in Jesus will spend eternity in heaven - spending a bit of that time laughing about our crazy ideas and mistakes of this life.

 

[Starman3000m]

Nope. Your personal beliefs are between you and God, and it's not my place to judge you in any way. By the way, if Calvin was the fellow he has been described as, I'd have nothing to do with him; he'd be a poisonous man regardless of his professed beliefs. I separate the beliefs from the person. My relationship with the Lord has grown and continues to grow, partly because every time I see His hand at work (and that's pretty frequently), I praise Him. The communication is cool, because He has used silent and very eloquent and powerful expressions of His thoughts, and sometimes there's no doubt it's in response to my prayer. I have no doubt that He knows where my knowledge and ideas are flawed, but He hasn't rejected me because of it, and so I believe that we who know Him and believe in Jesus will spend eternity in heaven - spending a bit of that time laughing about our crazy ideas and mistakes of this life.

Thank you for your sincere response Railroad. Good answer.

Indeed, John Calvin was "the fellow" he has been described to be by the historical accounts of his actions. If you were never aware of this, perhaps it was time that this was to have been revealed to you and many others who were never informed.

 

[Railroad]

Indeed, John Calvin was "the fellow" he has been described to be by the historical accounts of his actions. If you were never aware of this, perhaps it was time that this was to have been revealed to you and many others who were never informed.

Of COURSE it was time! All part of the plan.

 

[Starman3000m]

Of COURSE it was time! All part of the plan.

Amen!

The True God of the Bible will never lead you astray; man will.

 

[StoneThrower]

Why then, do most non-denominationals, quote Paul, rather than Jesus?
Scripture is full of quotes from Jesus, but Paul seems to be quoted more often.

Just asking?

BTW, I think Calvin also had many good ideas, not all good , but many.

Guessing Paul is quoted more, because he wrote two thirds of the New Testament and for no other reason and since his word is inspired its actually Gods word no matter if it was Paul or Jesus that said it.

 

[StoneThrower]

I never said you didn't. My comment was aimed at the understanding that the church has been dealing with people choosing to follow one person or another when the teaching and understanding of a person is flawed no matter how good.

I dont think its a matter of following. The main line denominations fall into one or the other camp based on their stated beliefs. You either believe in the doctrines of grace or you dont. Now churches try to hide it, but if you look at their orgins you can see what they are. As for Bible Churches they can fall in either camp depending on their doctrinal statement or what the current pastor teaches. :-(

 

[StoneThrower]

Re: John Calvin

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I can find an article that says Obama is a Christain, but that doesnt make it true!

 

[StoneThrower]

I personally believe that Calvinism negates Scriptures where Jesus said that He came to save sinners of which all mankind are and that He will not turn anyone away if they call upon His Name.

So what do you do with Many are called but few are chosen?
Matthew 22:14

Or many will Say Lord Lord
On that day many will say to me, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and cast out demons in your name, and do many mighty works in your name?’
Matthew 7:22

What then? That which Israel seeketh for, that he obtained not; but the election obtained it, and the rest were hardened:
Romans 11:7

God even said he hardened his chosen peoples hearts till the full number of gentiles is reached.


Therefore I endure everything for the sake of the elect, that they also may obtain the salvation that is in Christ Jesus with eternal glory.
2 Timothy 2:10

 

[Starman3000m]

So what do you do with Many are called but few are chosen?
Matthew 22:14

Or many will Say Lord Lord
On that day many will say to me, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and cast out demons in your name, and do many mighty works in your name?’
Matthew 7:22

What then? That which Israel seeketh for, that he obtained not; but the election obtained it, and the rest were hardened:
Romans 11:7

God even said he hardened his chosen peoples hearts till the full number of gentiles is reached.


Therefore I endure everything for the sake of the elect, that they also may obtain the salvation that is in Christ Jesus with eternal glory.
2 Timothy 2:10

It's not what I will do with them; it is what God will do with them for their following other "gospels" and "other christs" and not believing God's Message that would bring them to repentance and the Salvation He had offered through His Only Begotten Son, Jesus Christ, as stated in the Holy Bible.