Why is Joe running?

Toxick

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Gutfeld commented the other night - if Trump poses SUCH an existential threat to democracy - and the world ---

Why don't they get the very BEST candidate possible?


The question that often bakes my noodle is "Why in strongest of ****s do we not ALWAYS have the best candidate possible?"

The person who is at the helm of this nation should invariably be the best of the best of the best.

Instead we have to choose between a bloviating lecher douchewad who I've been unable to stomach since the 1980's going up against a person who literally and figuratively shits his pants, not to mention he was a steaming pile of excrement even before his lost his god damned mind.


At least with Trump the people who like him, LOVE him, and the country was running relatively smoothly, despite the exhausting media assault around the clock for 4 solid ****ing years. So although, I think he's personally reprehensible, I can at least sort of see why he's up there. But that other imbecile - he never should have been allowed NEAR a ticket 4 years ago, much less today.
 
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To me it smells like the same people who were running Obama.

I've said often: Obama isn't the puppet master; he's just another puppet.


Or that.


Although, I don't 100% agree. I don't think that Obama is THE puppet master, but I think he's A puppet master. He's one of the visible oligarchs who is pulling the strings and has some autonomy - or at least a say - in creating the dystopian policy we're laboring under.
 

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The person who is at the helm of this nation should invariably be the best of the best of the best.

Intelligent people don't want to throw themselves into the snake pit of politics. They can make more money doing something else, and they don't put their family and everyone they've ever known at risk. Most presidential candidates are charming dullards who are good enough actors to convince dumbshits to glom on, but they're not smart enough to run a bake sale let alone the country.

Then there's the Trump conundrum. He's clearly intelligent, but not particularly charming. The opposite of your typical politician, and yet he was pretty good at presidenting. THAT is what I'm looking at, not the schmoozy gladhander making the unwashed masses swoon. *cough* Obama *cough*
 

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The question that often bakes my noodle is "Why in strongest of ****s do we not ALWAYS have the best candidate possible?"

The person who is at the helm of this nation should invariably be the best of the best of the best.

Instead we have to choose between a bloviating lecher douchewad who I've been unable to stomach since the 1980's going up against a person who literally and figuratively shits his pants, not to mention he was a steaming pile of excrement even before his lost his god damned mind.


At least with Trump the people who like him, LOVE him, and the country was running relatively smoothly, despite the exhausting media assault around the clock for 4 solid ****ing years. So although, I think he's personally reprehensible, I can at least sort of see why he's up there. But that other imbecile - he never should have been allowed NEAR a ticket 4 years ago, much less today.
Because the best of the best are too phucking smart to want this shtty job.
The best of the best got there because they earned it not from DEI or being political Government mammary suckers.
 

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Or that.


Although, I don't 100% agree. I don't think that Obama is THE puppet master, but I think he's A puppet master. He's one of the visible oligarchs who is pulling the strings and has some autonomy - or at least a say - in creating the dystopian policy we're laboring under.

Prior to becoming president, he was a nobody. Not even an up and comer, just a low level do nothing junior Senator who got his job through political chicanery. Before that he was even more of a nobody. He was basically a black male AOC. Absolutely not a boss by any stretch - Michelle is the brains in that family, not Barry.

And because he's good at schmoozing and has such an ardent fan club, the Dems dig him out for a duty dance when they need him, then send him back to the Vineyard to lay on the beach until next time.
 

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To me it smells like the same people who were running Obama.

I've said often: Obama isn't the puppet master; he's just another puppet.
He struck me much like - John Kerry. A man whose grades at college were about the same as the presumably *dumber* George Bush -

But who strutted around like he was some kind of scholar.

I have never been impressed with the knowledge and academic scholarship of Barack Obama - like you said, he just seemed to be another post turtle beholden to a higher power pulling the strings. Except he ACTED as though he put HIMSELF on the post.
 

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He struck me much like - John Kerry. A man whose grades at college were about the same as the presumably *dumber* George Bush -

But who strutted around like he was some kind of scholar.

I have never been impressed with the knowledge and academic scholarship of Barack Obama - like you said, he just seemed to be another post turtle beholden to a higher power pulling the strings. Except he ACTED as though he put HIMSELF on the post.

Barry and Willie Jeff are the type of person the real power gets to stand in for them.

I am not a charming or sympathetic figure. I'm plain spoken, straight, no sugar, and that's not how you win over the masses. It would never be a good idea for me to be my own spokesperson. So if I wanted to rule the world, or even a little bitty fiefdom, I'd get a crowd pleaser to be my surrogate. The most charming attractive schmoozer money could buy, and they would become the public "me". I'd tell them what I want to do, and they'd go out and sell it to the morons. Or I wouldn't even tell them - they don't need to know. Just get out there and sell so nobody notices me behind the curtain.

If you were going to sell Marxism to the dolts, you wouldn't go out there and be all, "Hey, here's why you should allow yourselves to be subjugated by people like me and give me all your money." You'd hire actors to sell it for you, because who doesn't do what actors and entertainers say? And these attractive charming salespeople close the deal.

Obama is an attractive charming salesman. Whether he's selling vacuum cleaners or Marxism, doesn't matter - he can close the deal and keep it closed.
 
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Barry and Willie Jeff are the type of person the real power gets to stand in for them.
Willie Jeff I can see at least, being his own man. He got to be governor with help - but he was running the show.

Barry weaseled into state senator by patronage - stabbing his patron in the back - and getting everyone else kicked off the primary ballot, because they were unable to validate their almost certainly fake petitions of voters. Then he waltzed into the Senate by somehow unsealing the presumably sealed documents of Jack Ryan - and coasted into victory against Alan Keyes - who was doomed to lose.

After giving a DNC keynote - it really was a matter of patronage from the Democratic higher ups.
 

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Willie Jeff I can see at least, being his own man. He got to be governor with help - but he was running the show.

See, I don't think he was running that show at all. The mastermind is going to be disciplined and keep their eyes on the prize. Nobody would ever accuse Clinton of discipline. That's why Hillary figured it should be her turn - she was smarter and more disciplined, and would certainly do what she was told (see "the Lewinsky Scandal"). But she's about as charismatic as a stepped on dog turd, so they brought in Obama to run against the horribly uncharismatic McCain.

Note that you don't see a lot of Bill since he stopped being president. He didn't even really campaign for Shrillary - the awkward uncharming daughter was hired to do it. They trot him out very occasionally, but Obama is more dynamic and a better choice for salesman.

Of course this would never work without the MSM selling it as well. So you have the "news" people AND celebrities on the payroll, it's stunning that Marxist Democrats don't own this whole country by now. So I might have to revise my opinion of humans because clearly there are some who are paying attention and not just eating Twinkies and watching Mama June.

As far as Michelle Obama goes, she has been clear she's done with that bullshit. She did her time, delivered what she was hired to deliver, and that's that. Her personal friends and close associates have all gone on record that she always hated politics, and now she just wants to live her life. So anyone still misguided enough to think she'll throw her hat in the ring, sorry to disappoint because it's not gonna happen.
 
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So anyone still misguided enough to think she'll throw her hat in the ring, sorry to disappoint because it's not gonna happen.
Heard that she cannot stand the way the Biden family treated Hunter's ex-wife, with whom she was friends. She won't campaign with them.

But it really disappoints me that Democrats would vote for Michelle, who has ZERO political experience (sorry, being First Lady no more qualifies you as President as it did for Betty Ford or Nancy Reagan) and has never held elective office, no diplomatic experience, run a large corporation - no real experience whatsoever. That they're dumb enough to vote for A NAME.
 

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Heard that she cannot stand the way the Biden family treated Hunter's ex-wife, with whom she was friends. She won't campaign with them.

But it really disappoints me that Democrats would vote for Michelle, who has ZERO political experience (sorry, being First Lady no more qualifies you as President as it did for Betty Ford or Nancy Reagan) and has never held elective office, no diplomatic experience, run a large corporation - no real experience whatsoever. That they're dumb enough to vote for A NAME.

Politics is overrated. If I thought Michelle could be a strong leader I wouldn't care that she's not well-versed in being a criminal swamp rat.

*Governing* is my barometer, not being a slimy politician.
 

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The "puppet masters" (plural because I see at least two) are Valerie Jarrett and Susan Rice.

I'm pretty sure they're just handmaidens. The real control, we likely don't even know their names because they've kept themselves out of the spotlight for that very reason.
 

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I think everyone can agree that Joe had a pretty dismal debate so why is he not getting out? Dianne Feinstein was practically forced out, Justice Sotomayor is being pushed towards the door, RBG was posthumously criticized for not retiring. What keeps these people hanging around forever? Can they not see a world without them in it, do they think the world stops spinning. Not saying the R’s are any better, turtlehead is 20 years past his useful life. Any opinions.
No worries. He always has the basement to turn to again.
 

LightRoasted

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For your consideration ...

Gutfeld commented the other night - if Trump poses SUCH an existential threat to democracy - and the world ---

Why don't they get the very BEST candidate possible?

This is why. The communists, liberals, marxists, bolsheviks, all want democracy. (Which everyone should know is mob rule, aka infringing on, usurping, people's individual right and freedoms. Aka telling people what they can and cannot do, just becasue.

Trump, even with his failings, at least was/is a believer in our Republic. This what all those on the left fear. Basically losing their seat as a master Karen on the HOA board.
 
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