Wondering why

[mitzi]

I'm wondering what is the reasoning for this. County property owned by the St. Marys County Board of Commissioners or the State Highway Administration and you can't even pull over to look at the water? This just gets more and more ridiculous. No more days of just pulling over and letting your kid run around on a little beach and relax for a little while.

On SOMDWXNEWS site

PRESS RELEASE: No Trespassing Under St. George Island Bridge
REMINDER: Fishing under the St. George Island bridge is not permitted by order of the Maryland State Highway Administration. In addition, the Piney Point Public Landing, owned by the Commissioners of St. Mary's County, closes at dark except for loading and unloading boats. The St. Mary's County Sheriff's Office will be enforcing these regulations.
PRESS RELEASE: No Parking or Trespassing Along North Patuxent Beach Road
REMINDER: There is no parking or trespassing alongside North Patuxent Beach Road in California and there is no trespassing on the adjacent private pier. The St. Mary's County Sheriff's Office will be patrolling the area for enforcement.

 

[Gilligan]

It's a long and old story... Back in the 90s, the park and ramp area had not been "developed" and it was just county-owned open-space waterfront, on both sides. It was inundated with people from "up town" (mostly Koreans back then) on weekends and that overcrowding spread past the county land, on to the island (trespassing), under the bridge, etc etc and great messes were left behind. Families came for the weekend..spent the night in small tents..their cars...under the stars..whatever. The eventual result was that local residents demanded that it all stop and be brought under control and the county responded accordingly.

We had entire family groups renting just one of my hotel rooms for a 3-day weekend and "hot bunking" the entire time...LOL. But I have to admit..they spent money. Lots of money. My store is long gone now....but it made killer bank on some of the really busy weekends back in those wild days.

 

[GWguy]

PRESS RELEASE: No Trespassing Under St. George Island Bridge

Nothing new. It's been that way for at least 20 years. I parked by the launch ramp and walked towards the bridge. Got yelled at by some official who was hell bent to give me a ticket. But I didn't see a sign, and noted there was no sign between the ramp and bridge, the signs were all on the road side. He agreed and let me go.

 

[officeguy]

A year ago, SHA had a public meeting about replacing the Cobb Island bridge across Neale Sound. The locals where apoplectic when SHA announced that the new bridge would have a pedestriian walkway and a kayak ramp. The public meeting was entertaining when the Islanders tried to explain that a pedestrian walkway will bring 'those people' down to go fishing and that they don't want 'those people' on their island.... Same background as the restrictions on the SGI public lands. If it was up to the island crabs they would put a gate at the bridge to keep folks out.

 

[mitzi]

It's a long and old story... Back in the 90s, the park and ramp area had not been "developed" and it was just county-owned open-space waterfront, on both sides. It was inundated with people from "up town" (mostly Koreans back then) on weekends and that overcrowding spread past the county land, on to the island (trespassing), under the bridge, etc etc and great messes were left behind. Families came for the weekend..spent the night in small tents..their cars...under the stars..whatever. The eventual result was that local residents demanded that it all stop and be brought under control and the county responded accordingly.

That makes sense then. I wouldn't want all of that in "my backyard" either. I was never there when it was like that. The times I was there nobody was there except us. When I asked my questions, I was thinking in terms of local county folks have no access now. I wonder where all the Asians go now since the Hispanics took over all the water access areas.

 

[Gilligan]

A year ago, SHA had a public meeting about replacing the Cobb Island bridge across Neale Sound. The locals where apoplectic when SHA announced that the new bridge would have a pedestriian walkway and a kayak ramp. The public meeting was entertaining when the Islanders tried to explain that a pedestrian walkway will bring 'those people' down to go fishing and that they don't want 'those people' on their island.... Same background as the restrictions on the SGI public lands. If it was up to the island crabs they would put a gate at the bridge to keep folks out.

How many dump truck loads of garbage and human waste did you volunteer to pick up and haul from SGI back in the days when the crowds of Koreans invaded?

Do you even own a dump truck? I did ...and we really got sick and tired of the massive cleanup efforts.

 

[Gilligan]

I wonder where all the Asians go now since the Hispanics took over all the water access areas.

We wonder that too. The crowd of invaders was racially homogenous back then and is pretty much that way now too. No idea why/how/when one completely replaced the other.

 

[Gilligan]

Nothing new. It's been that way for at least 20 years. I parked by the launch ramp and walked towards the bridge. Got yelled at by some official who was hell bent to give me a ticket. But I didn't see a sign, and noted there was no sign between the ramp and bridge, the signs were all on the road side. He agreed and let me go.

Well..we just don't want your kind down here. ;-p Say..when you stopping by the shop again?

 

[mitzi]

Nothing new. It's been that way for at least 20 years. I parked by the launch ramp and walked towards the bridge. Got yelled at by some official who was hell bent to give me a ticket. But I didn't see a sign, and noted there was no sign between the ramp and bridge, the signs were all on the road side. He agreed and let me go.

I pulled over there a few years back (not under the bridge on the side of the road somewhere along there) and walked the grandkid over to the small beachy area where I sat and he splashed in the water. There was a No Parking sign there then but took the chance. Nobody else was there and figured the worst that could happen was be told to leave is a deputy went by. I didn't think anyone would think it was a big deal for a grandma and 6 year old to be there. Now it's a different story if there's hoards of people there, then I can understand.

 

[GWguy]

Well..we just don't want your kind down here. ;-p Say..when you stopping by the shop again?

When are you gonna have something besides that crappy Corona, which you didn't even offer last time I was there!?!?

 

[Gilligan]

I pulled over there a few years back (not under the bridge on the side of the road somewhere along there) and walked the grandkid over to the small beachy area where I sat and he splashed in the water. There was a No Parking sign there then but took the chance. Nobody else was there and figured the worst that could happen was be told to leave is a deputy went by. I didn't think anyone would think it was a big deal for a grandma and 6 year old to be there. Now it's a different story if there's hoards of people there, then I can understand.

Some folks still pull park on the side of the road and enjoy the beach that's on the north side of the road just on to the island. If it's just a couple folks, nobody takes much notice or complains, but the sheriffs dept will sometimes enforce the "no trespassing" notice if they happen by and someone is there. Sad backstory is...that nice beach property was intended to be a publicly accessible property by the woman (long since passed on) that owned it. Unfortunately...that access was badly abused..and became yet another site we local volunteers had to clean up on our own.

 

[mitzi]

We wonder that too. The crowd of invaders was racially homogenous back then and is pretty much that way now too. No idea why/how/when one completely replaced the other.

This jarred a memory of going to Point Lookout once (late 80s I think) and the old Asian women were only in their shorts and bras. No bathing suit top, their bras. It made me not want to go spend the day there again lol.

 

[Gilligan]

When are you gonna have something besides that crappy Corona, which you didn't even offer last time I was there!?!?

The new bottles have "Limited Edition" and a palm tree printed on them. Tastes better than ever now.

 

[mitzi]

Some folks still pull park on the side of the road and enjoy the beach that's on the north side of the road just on to the island. If it's just a couple folks, nobody takes much notice or complains, but the sheriffs dept will sometimes enforce the "no trespassing" notice if they happen by and someone is there. Sad backstory is...that nice beach property was intended to be a publicly accessible property by the woman (long since passed on) that owned it. Unfortunately...that access was badly abused..and became yet another site we local volunteers had to clean up on our own.

I think that's where I've stopped over the years (from the 70s until recently). I guess I was lucky when we did, we were the only people there. We used to catch a lot of crabs there years ago.

 

[mitzi]

Guilty

 

[vraiblonde]

A year ago, SHA had a public meeting about replacing the Cobb Island bridge across Neale Sound. The locals where apoplectic when SHA announced that the new bridge would have a pedestriian walkway and a kayak ramp. The public meeting was entertaining when the Islanders tried to explain that a pedestrian walkway will bring 'those people' down to go fishing and that they don't want 'those people' on their island.... Same background as the restrictions on the SGI public lands. If it was up to the island crabs they would put a gate at the bridge to keep folks out.

If "those people" weren't such filthy inconsiderate pigs nobody would mind. Point Lookout is the same way - signs all over the place to clean up after yourself, and do you think they do it? No, they don't. They just leave their trash right there - half the time it looks like they brought their household trash to dump on the fishing pier and causeway. If I lived there I'd want it closed down to "visitors" as well.

 

[vraiblonde]

Guilty

Scofflaw

 

[RoseRed]

If "those people" weren't such filthy inconsiderate pigs nobody would mind. Point Lookout is the same way - signs all over the place to clean up after yourself, and do you think they do it? No, they don't. They just leave their trash right there - half the time it looks like they brought their household trash to dump on the fishing pier and causeway. If I lived there I'd want it closed down to "visitors" as well.

Reminds me of the story I heard about the foreign crabbers that kept throwing them back, because they were blue, not orange.

 

[LightRoasted]

If I may ...

Point Lookout is the same way ....

Back in the day, as a young lad, in the 70's, it seemed only the hardy locals would venture to Point Lookout. Many a time with dad and his friend when going there for some surf fishing, the causeway was many times flooded over with the bay flooding over to the lagoon. Either because of high tide or high wind, or a storm. Crept along slowly until reaching the Point side. Fun times. Then someone had to come along and fix it and build a damn pier.

 

[DannyMotorcycle]

OK so if one wants to take a 4 year old to the beach to splash around, where do you guys recommend?