Would you be willing to be punished
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pixiegirl
Cleopatra Jones
That dumbs it down too far. It's moreso about the parenting decisions people make. My mother made grand choices in her life but made a ton (and continues to make) of lousy parenting decisions. The result, a 32 year old alcoholic son who is still living with them and a daughter with "commitment" issues
. From the 30,000 foot view things should have been great and us kids should have turned out great but the choices made inside the house concerning us were poor. I also grew up with kids who's parents made terrible choices in thier personal lives but were effective parents. Some of those kids are now very well functioning adults.
...sure you can handle your kids??? :ninjafight:
Who do you think is master for the padawan?
Yeah, I'd probably be in the next cell.
I'm sure Michael Scofield will help us break out.
It's the parents fault that the kids turned out the way they did! If they would have busted their butts when they were bad, this wouldn't have happened. Kids today know how to get away with murder!
JMHO. :shrug:
Its not just the parents fault - everybodys so quick to blame the parents - its just the parents fault.. some kids are just f'd up from jump.. When I was in school there was a girl and she was kinda weird and she ended up playing on my ball team - her parents while meeting them at the games - were the nicest people and yes I did end up at their house for bday parties and other things b/c my parents were friends with her parents.. granted I wasn't there 100% of the time behind closed doors but the girl went nuts hurting people and then some other things and her parents were devastated.. her brother & lil sister didn't end up that way..
This is one of the biggest problems in our society today. Blaming your parents for your poor decisions in life is the BIGGEST "not my fault" crap excuse, that is mostly used by people who won't take responsibility for their OWN actions.
When you're a little kid, it's one thing - you're supposed to be being supervised. But these wayward punks grow up to be adult dysfunctionals, and are *still* playing the "poor me" card. We see it all the time. Victimitis is a national epidemic.
When you're a little kid, it's one thing - you're supposed to be being supervised. But these wayward punks grow up to be adult dysfunctionals, and are *still* playing the "poor me" card. We see it all the time. Victimitis is a national epidemic.
Larry Gude
Strung Out
I don't...
...suppose this would be a god time to bring up what happened to Yoda?
Who do you think is master for the padawan?
...suppose this would be a god time to bring up what happened to Yoda?
pixiegirl
Cleopatra Jones
It's a combination. Yes, I blame my brother for his poor choices and he made his own bed BUT my parents continue to "feed the beast" if you will. If mommy is still wiping your ass at 32 and you're still letting her then you BOTH have a problem and are both to blame.
It's being able recognize and accept that personal responsibility. Was my mother an effective parent? Not so much. Did it cause disfunctionality in her kids? Probably. Are her children now adults and responsible for taking care of themselves? Absolutely. I'm a "thinking" person not a "feeling" person so I understand that my mom may not have been the best mom but she was the best mom that she knew how to be. She was shaped by her upbringing which was far worse than mine ever was. Your upbringing shapes you but it doesn't define you. Some people (e.g. people like my brother) can't accept that and move past it and just flat out refuse to accept responsibility for thier behavior.
...suppose this would be a god time to bring up what happened to Yoda?
He died of old age in Return of the Jedi. Of course Obiwan was struck down by Darth, making him more powerful than Darth could ever realize.
So what's your point?
Larry Gude
Strung Out
I thought...
...Yoda got killed? So, if not, my point would be I don't know what I am talking about.
Let's see, give me an example of the student getting rid of their master; How about Snake in Speed Racer? Or River Phoenix in Gladiator!?
He died of old age in Return of the Jedi. Of course Obiwan was struck down by Darth, making him more powerful than Darth could ever realize.
So what's your point?
...Yoda got killed? So, if not, my point would be I don't know what I am talking about.
Let's see, give me an example of the student getting rid of their master; How about Snake in Speed Racer? Or River Phoenix in Gladiator!?
Dymphna
Loyalty, Friendship, Love
That's a hard question to answer. My children are 7 & 9, so I can tell you for certain that at this age, normal kids should have a basic sense of right and wrong. I can't speak about the kids actually involved in this incident because they all had special needs of some sort that may have affected their perceptions or development.
But my kids, who are that age now, would never be involved in such a plot. If they were that type of kid, that would mean I'm not the type of parent I am. I will say that at that age, they are capable of being much their own person and capable of making many decisions on their own and they are capable of understanding basic right and wrong on their own. Punishing the parents won't change that. And if the parents are so horrible that they somehow taught their children that this is an acceptable behavior, the kids would probably love for them to be punished, because right after they took down the teacher, Mom and Dad were gonna be next.
Geek
New Member
Lugnut
I'm Rick James #####!
Speed Racer
Don't recall.River Phoenix was in Gladiator?
I think I've seen that movie 1.5 times to my sons 15. Russell Crowe gets on my nerves.
Larry Gude
Strung Out
Well...
...of of them Phoenix's...
I guess you're glad Crowe got killed?
Speed Racer
River Phoenix was in Gladiator?
...of of them Phoenix's...
I guess you're glad Crowe got killed?
Maybe I've only seen it .5 times. I don't remember the ending. Just realized you were talking about the blue eyed sissy boy that killed his father the emperor and was in love with his sister. I think that was Joacquin (sp?) - the one that played Johnny Cash.
Larry Gude
Strung Out
Yeah...
...that's the one! You know how them Phoenix's all look alike...
...that's the one! You know how them Phoenix's all look alike...
I agree with this - I'm sure that there is something in their home life the parent's should be accountable for.
There's one thing that bothers me. It surprises me that there are so many kids involved. What exactly led up to the kids deciding this course of action? I think along with the CPS investigating the parents, the teacher should be looked into as well.
I'm not saying that the teacher is at fault but it makes me wonder why such a large group of kids would want to do her harm.