That may be for your barrack/district station. But I can personally attest to the fact that the only check that I have seen done is the check through the master names for our county. So it is very easy to get by. Plus I have yet to hear of anyone checking the ride-along applicants ID. Your ideas sound good but I don't think they are actually followed. At least not at all law enforcement agencies.
Lugnut
I'm Rick James #####!
I've ridden with Baltimore City, PG, and St. Marys. None asked me to show ID and only PG asked me to sign a waiver.
Well, I don't know a cop in the world who would put ANY stranger in his/her car without running them through NCIC
Well then the officer who put you in the car was in violation of the policy, the duty officer who allowed you in the car was in violation of policy and the commander who was checked with to allow you in the car was in violation of policy! So let me ask you. You just showed up at the station, not knowing anyone and said you wanted to ride and they allowed that?
I've ridden with Baltimore City, PG, and St. Marys. None asked me to show ID and only PG asked me to sign a waiver.
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RadioPatrol
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Yeah I THINK NOT ...........
Homies may play that ####, not wanting to see another brother locked up by the White MAN System ... toss his ass if he deserves it ... without some bull####
attitude like that .....
Yeah I THINK NOT ...........
toss his ass if he deserves it ... without some bull####
attitude like that .....
Like I said before go out and see firsthand and then we will talk.
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RadioPatrol
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All I am questioning is this one Officers attitude towards speeders he pulls over ....
everyone is a felon first, citizen 2nd .....
I believe you, but say it's wrong!
I wasn't trying to start anything. I work with and have a really high regard for police officers and think the officers safety should be considered the most important thing. Unfortunately that isn't always the case. You should be glad if your station/barrack does actually go to the lengths you said to make sure the riders are not a threat. Many agencies don't do that.
I don't think you were trying to put anyone down. Sorry if I gave you that impression.
But it is also on the officer if he/she allows someone in their car without running them.
All I am questioning is this one Officers attitude towards speeders he pulls over ....
everyone is a felon first, citizen 2nd .....
I liken police work to military duty. In order to protect the safety of the citizens you unforunately have to often times err on the side of caution. It is far better to think someone is a felon and find out they aren't then to think they aren't and find out they are by being on the receiving end of a bullet. I am sure in your job your personal well being isn't jeopardized on a regular basis based on the decisions you make about whether a person is a threat or not. Yeah they may seem over zealous at times but if that is the price you have to pay to maintain order than so be it. If an officer pulls me over and I am innocent and he questions me anyway. So what. I have always said if you don't have anything to hide you won't care. So once again I say go and see what you think when you see what they deal with day in and day out. Until then you are talking without experience and that makes it just your opinion not a fact.
That's b.s. When does a simple speeder get treated like a felon? Define that please!
All I am questioning is this one Officers attitude towards speeders he pulls over ....
everyone is a felon first, citizen 2nd .....
AK-74me
"Typical White Person"
It happens in the case of the orginal article by the officer's own admission. I'm all for officer safety but to treat everyone that you have contact with like a possible felon?
AK-74me
"Typical White Person"
I understand what you are saying but you keep saying, go try it and see....
I'll tell you that not all cops agree with treating everyone they come in contact with as possible felons until proven otherwise. So what do you say to them?
I think maybe it is just away to not get in "trouble" for profiling, possibly? Which I think is fine, profiling, that is. Maybe if it wasn't such a big deal to profile people, he wouldn't have to go to such extremes.
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Not to split hairs but I am not talking about regarding someone as a possible felon, threat, whatever you want to call it. I'm talking about the way people are treated. A felony stop is MUCH different than a traffic stop!
I'm talking about the treatment of an individual. That individual wouldn't know the difference in their treatment because you aren't treating them poorly. What it means to regard them as a possible felon is to be aware of any threats they may possess. There is nothing wrong with that. Who knows what a felon looks like?
I disagree with seizing money from someone without sufficient probable cause that they have committed a crime.
I don't understand what you or the poster is trying to convey in the "treatment" of a speeder? Because the officer exercises officer safety he or she is wrong? That is silly!
Lugnut
I'm Rick James #####!
Most of the time I knew at least one person, sometimes I didn't. This was 8 years ago or so. I was helping train K9's, laying tracks, agitation work, scent identification, scenarios, etc... Basically, what ever the K9 officer needed help with.
I got out of training K9's a couple years ago and in fact gave my remaining equipment, sleeves, collars, tracking leads, patrol leads, scent pads, harnesses, and the rest, to a K9 officer here in St. Marys. last year.