Bare-ya-cuda
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My brother felt he could see better sitting left seat.
WTF is a "Social Aide"?
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Many times completing an assignment like that leads to a next assignment of choice.
Ok. Men do it, too.
I'm not FOR DEI, believe me. I want to be sure that's what this was, before I get pissed off about it.
PeoplesElbow
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To me calling this a DEI hire issue without knowing the facts is no different than Obama blaming that cop and saying it was a "teachable moment".
WingsOfGold
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checklist this part was usually done while taxiing and atc would call barometer.For your consideration ...
NOTAMs are rarely ever in error. Reports are now coming out that there is a discrepancy in altimeter readings from the plane's flight data recorder and ATC. It could be possible that the pilot of the plane did not properly set the altimeter setting for above ground level, AGL, for the area correctly.
Altitude reading from DC plane crash could explain how it happened
The black boxes recovered from the American Airlines plane and the Army helicopter crash in DC revealed a key discrepancy in their altitude readings.www.dailymail.co.uk
LightRoasted
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When an aircraft is handed over while enroute, ATC will also call out barometric altimeter for an approach.
checklist this part was usually done while taxiing and atc would call barometer.
When an aircraft is handed over while enroute, ATC will also call out barometric altimeter for an approach.
UH-72 Lakotas are now in the mix.
BOP
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Her distinguished career? I looked at her awards; nothing that most people who aren't f*ckups don't have - including me. Participation and "atta-boy" awards.
Female Pilot in Crash Trump Blames on DEI Was Top 20% Cadet
Capt. Rebecca M. Lobach died when the Black Hawk helicopter she was co-piloting collided with an American Airlines jet.www.thedailybeast.com
Sure the window dressing looks great but so did Lieutenant Kara Hultgreen's that was pushed through the pipeline.
Probably a lot more to this
Rotc BFD, how did she do in flight school?
BOP
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An old pattern in aviation is that when men screw up, if they survive, they're generally grounded. Only rarely do they get a second chance.
When women screw up, they're made excuses for, and offered more chances. You know, like to slam their multi-million dollar aircraft into the back of an aircraft carrier.
Navy Pilot's Errors Contributed to Fatal Crash, Report Says
Piloting mistakes by Lt.
WingsOfGold
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WingsOfGold
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Been many a year but I think you're correct but unless since the 80's when I last flew we also set the altimeter before takeoff as well. Could be wrong, I forget.
LightRoasted
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Nope. You aren't wrong. Part of my guys preflight, for helos anyway, was to always set the altimeter, (and wind up the 7-day clock, even if they flew the day before), which at the time was an analog altimeter in the helos flew at the time. Which meant they flew mostly VFR, especially if flying in mountainous terrain. Radio altimeters didn't come into play until much later, usually in newer more technologically advanced models for when flying in IFR conditions, such as the Apache. But then, the Apache also had Multi-Purpose Displays that could visually show terrain features as they flew.
Nope. You aren't wrong. Part of my guys preflight, for helos anyway, was to always set the altimeter, (and wind up the 7-day clock, even if they flew the day before), which at the time was an analog altimeter in the helos flew at the time. Which meant they flew mostly VFR, especially if flying in mountainous terrain. Radio altimeters didn't come into play until much later, usually in newer more technologically advanced models for when flying in IFR conditions, such as the Apache. But then, the Apache also had Multi-Purpose Displays that could visually show terrain features as they flew.
The helos visibility may or may not have been better. You can see in front, down, left and right, but not up rear left or rear right. How the altitude readout works is you set the barometric pressure for the ground level, this info is provided by the weather office. One digit off in the lowest number in this setting can make a difference of 100'. Also how the Mode C (altitude) works it only gives readings in 100' increments. As far as how far off the proper altitude they were off, the numbers I've seen were they were assigned 200" and were actually at 300", so this was the most minor amount that they could be off.
We can talk altitudes all we want. The important thing is their paths should not have crossed where it did, even with 500ft of vertical separation.
LightRoasted
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Of course they can see up. There are window canopies over head of each pilot. Also, the crewcheif can see, observe, left and right, as well as the pilots can see about 90+ degrees left and right out their door windows.
Of course they can see up. There are window canopies over head of each pilot. Also, the crewcheif can see, observe, left and right, as well as the pilots can see about 90+ degrees left and right out their door windows.
There are but the helmets require require head motion to look up, you don't have peripheral though. And if they have NVG you have tunnel vision.
LightRoasted
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I'm not sure they were wearing NVG's. If they were, and if anyone here has ever worn them knows, it is impossible to miss any bright lights as they pretty much will blind you. With too much light, the screen become saturated limiting what can be seen. And in the area they were flying, if wearing NVG's, there would have been a whole lot of lights that would have pretty much made those NVG's worthless.
NVG's are typically worn when flying in areas where there is no, or very low, light conditions. In addition, all lights are typically off on the helo for NVG night flying.
Also, head motion is a constant when flying a helicopter, NVG or no NVG, especially when flying low. And, NVG's do have a wide field of view when using WFOV NVG, Wide Field Of View NVG's, which greatly reduce tunnel vision.
I'm not sure they were wearing NVG's. If they were, and if anyone here has ever worn them knows, it is impossible to miss any bright lights as they pretty much will blind you. With too much light, the screen become saturated limiting what can be seen. And in the area they were flying, if wearing NVG's, there would have been a whole lot of lights that would have pretty much made those NVG's worthless.
NVG's are typically worn when flying in areas where there is no, or very low, light conditions. In addition, all lights are typically off on the helo for NVG night flying.
Also, head motion is a constant when flying a helicopter, NVG or no NVG, especially when flying low. And, NVG's do have a wide field of view when using WFOV NVG, Wide Field Of View NVG's, which greatly reduce tunnel vision.
What is heard originally was that this was an NVG training flight and that the plane was coming up from the left rear quarter which would entail her, the trainee looking over her left shoulder to see the plane.
Chopticon64
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So here’s how it went
Trump came out last week and said the crash was likely due to DEI, so you all were sure that meant either a trans or black person was involved. Over the next several days there were lots of posts transvestigating various folks. Then when the family of the third pilot didn’t release the name you were SURE you had it figured out “yep, that was the trans one!”
When it finally came out it was a white woman, the women (imagine that) in this forum get all huffy “well I can’t imagine that THIS is a case of DEI!”
Wake up ladies, Trump explained it to you last week.
Trump came out last week and said the crash was likely due to DEI, so you all were sure that meant either a trans or black person was involved. Over the next several days there were lots of posts transvestigating various folks. Then when the family of the third pilot didn’t release the name you were SURE you had it figured out “yep, that was the trans one!”
When it finally came out it was a white woman, the women (imagine that) in this forum get all huffy “well I can’t imagine that THIS is a case of DEI!”
Wake up ladies, Trump explained it to you last week.