Yates Pleads Insanity

vraiblonde

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Think about that. We live in a country where a woman can chase down her five children and hold them under water until they're dead, and some court will overturn her prison sentence because a behavioral "expert" gave false testimony. And not even eye-witness testimony - nobody is saying she didn't actually kill her children, just that this "expert" said he saw a TV show that he didn't really see.

Pretty scary.
 
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missperky

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It's obvious she knew what she was doing, I mean she chased the kids through the house to get them, I say fry her. IMO
 

bresamil

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vraiblonde said:
Think about that. We live in a country where a woman can chase down her five children and hold them under water until they're dead, and some court will overturn her prison sentence because a behavioral "expert" gave false testimony. And not even eye-witness testimony - nobody is saying she didn't actually kill her children, just that this "expert" said he saw a TV show that he didn't really see.

Pretty scary.
When you think of how long it would have taken to kill the oldest..I think she should have received the death penalty the first time around. Is she crazy? Sure enough. No sane person would take the life of an innocent child, let alone 5. She has no soul.
 
bresamil said:
When you think of how long it would have taken to kill the oldest..I think she should have received the death penalty the first time around. Is she crazy? Sure enough. No sane person would take the life of an innocent child, let alone 5. She has no soul.
My position is that mentally instable people who are a threat to society or have already proven themselves to be capable of maiming or killing another should be put to sleep.
 

bresamil

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kwillia said:
My position is that mentally instable people who are a threat to society or have already proven themselves to be capable of maiming or killing another should be put to sleep.
Agreed. Like any rabid animal.
 

gumby

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kwillia said:
My position is that mentally instable people who are a threat to society or have already proven themselves to be capable of maiming or killing another should be put to sleep.

Yup. Why waste resources (sp?) on people like that?? If she's that far gone, there can't be much hope for rehab. JMO
 

MargeInCharge

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missperky said:
I say fry her. IMO

Frying is too easy on her. I say hold her down in a tub and drown her, just like she did to her kids. It is sickening that there is even a chance she could be walking the streets someday.
 

sinwagon

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I think her and her husband both should be killed. I think they should be killed in the same inhumane way that her children were killed.

When people go into periods of insanity, my understanding is that it is brief. The kicking and screaming of those children, the water splashing on her all that alone should have woken her from her "insane" state.

Even if I was insane, once I had come to my senses and realized what I had done, I would want to die! The state would not have to kill me, I would feel so awful that I would kill myself. Thats what I don't understand, why would you want to live if you did something like that?

Her husband who at one point was standing by her side, is just as nuts as she is! If he knew as he previously stated that she was "shaky" then why would you continue to produce more children with her. And if someone killed my children, man woman, child, husband, mother etc, I would kill them myself regardless of what their reasons!
 
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Vixen

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When I went to training last year, a doctor from St. Elizabeth’s Hospital questioned the amount of drugs Yates was put on and said it very well could have contributed to her insanity.

She was being treated for depression and given anti-depressant drugs, and when those didn't work, they put her on drugs to enhance the anti-depressant drugs.

If you are being treated for a chemical imbalance in the brain and don't have one to begin with, anti-depressant drugs can and will make you worse. How worse? Who knows? But it is a thought.
 
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missperky

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Vixen said:
When I went to training last year, a doctor from St. Elizabeth’s Hospital questioned the amount of drugs Yates was put on and said it very well could have contributed to her insanity.

She was being treated for depression and given anti-depressant drugs, and when those didn't work, they put her on drugs to enhance the anti-depressant drugs.

If you are being treated for a chemical imbalance in the brain and don't have one to begin with, anti-depressant drugs can and will make you worse. How worse? Who knows? But it is a thought.
You are correct, but it still doesn't make what she did right, and this women chased around the kids, wasn't like all of the kids were already in the tub, she chased them, she knew darn well what she was doing. IMO
 

sinwagon

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Vixen said:
When I went to training last year, a doctor from St. Elizabeth’s Hospital questioned the amount of drugs Yates was put on and said it very well could have contributed to her insanity.

She was being treated for depression and given anti-depressant drugs, and when those didn't work, they put her on drugs to enhance the anti-depressant drugs.

If you are being treated for a chemical imbalance in the brain and don't have one to begin with, anti-depressant drugs can and will make you worse. How worse? Who knows? But it is a thought.

But being a sane person, once you snapped out of it and had all those mind altering substances out of your system by being in jail all of those years, once you figured out what you have done wouldn't you want to die? Why would you fight for your life?
 
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Vixen

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sinwagon said:
But being a sane person, once you snapped out of it and had all those mind altering substances out of your system by being in jail all of those years, once you figured out what you have done wouldn't you want to die? Why would you fight for your life?

I’m playing devil’s advocate here.

I'd venture to say the Defense Attorney has made that call, not her, and secondly, she is in custody so I'd also venture to say that she has not had the opportunities to kill herself
 

CandyRain

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If you're insane, you're insane all the time. This woman waited until her husband left for work and before her mother-in-law arrived. She knew what she was doing. She chased these children and drowned them one-by-one. :barf: :burning: There should not be an isanity defense for anyone who kills children. There is no defense because they are defenseless.
 
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Bruzilla

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sinwagon said:
I think her and her husband both should be killed. I think they should be killed in the same inhumane way that her children were killed.

When people go into periods of insanity, my understanding is that it is brief. The kicking and screaming of those children, the water splashing on her all that alone should have woken her from her "insane" state.

Even if I was insane, once I had come to my senses and realized what I had done, I would want to die! The state would not have to kill me, I would feel so awful that I would kill myself. Thats what I don't understand, why would you want to live if you did something like that?

Her husband who at one point was standing by her side, is just as nuts as she is! If he knew as he previously stated that she was "shaky" then why would you continue to produce more children with her. And if someone killed my children, man woman, child, husband, mother etc, I would kill them myself regardless of what their reasons!

That's the most inane post I've seen yet. Kill the husband? Why? Because Yates's attorney said it was his fault too? Should every male killer's wife be executed because she knew her husband was a screw up but did nothing? No... in these cases we're made to feel sorry for the pinhead wife.

Ok... so let's say that the father had some sixth sense that allowed him to foresee that his wife would chase down and drown their five kids while he was at work. What could he have done? Could he have her barred from the house? Could he have had her barred from being near the children? Could he have had her locked up for being a menace? The answer to all of the above is "No" because aside from bouts of depression this woman has shown no history of being insane, abusive, or a threat to anyone. What judge or court would have taken any action based on the evidence before the crime? Not a one. The only action the father would be able to take would be to kill Yates, and then he would be the one convicted of murder while people like you condemned him as just another murderous husband.

Why would Yates want to keep living after killing her own children? Because she did it because she was pissed at her husband, so in her mind she didn't kill the kids, her husband did. She's just another victim.
 

SouthernMdRocks

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Bruzilla said:
That's the most inane post I've seen yet. Kill the husband? Why? Because Yates's attorney said it was his fault too? Should every male killer's wife be executed because she knew her husband was a screw up but did nothing? No... in these cases we're made to feel sorry for the pinhead wife.

Ok... so let's say that the father had some sixth sense that allowed him to foresee that his wife would chase down and drown their five kids while he was at work. What could he have done? Could he have her barred from the house? Could he have had her barred from being near the children? Could he have had her locked up for being a menace? The answer to all of the above is "No" because aside from bouts of depression this woman has shown no history of being insane, abusive, or a threat to anyone. What judge or court would have taken any action based on the evidence before the crime? Not a one. The only action the father would be able to take would be to kill Yates, and then he would be the one convicted of murder while people like you condemned him as just another murderous husband.

Why would Yates want to keep living after killing her own children? Because she did it because she was pissed at her husband, so in her mind she didn't kill the kids, her husband did. She's just another victim.

There is no excuse for what she did because she as well knew she was unstable, as did the husband and the shrinks and doctors that knew her. They are all guilty in some measure for not protecting her children. Everyone knew she was not right!! If I thought there was even a micro chance of something happening, I would not have left her caring for my little ones. Unfortunately they are gone and she is still wanting to breath, beats me cause I could not live with myself, insane or not for doing what she did. As for him, guess life just goes on. He wasted no time moving on.
 
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