Base clsosing?

glhs837

Power with Control
A big chunk of surface is aviation, though.

The reality is that in-flight testing at PAX has been slowly moved out to Edwards over the last decade or so. The weapons systems used and terrain out there simulate where we've being flying the last several years. In addition, Edwards has a lot fewer restrictions than PAX on testing.

Your kidding, right? The ranges here are full constantly.
 

NorthBeachPerso

Honorary SMIB
Your kidding, right? The ranges here are full constantly.

They may be full but Edwards is getting a lot of USN testing. When PAX was up for BRAC (for real) a number of years ago the plan was to consolidate testing out there. Huge restricted air space, few if any residential developments, no dumb ass yuppies from Solomon's complaining. It would also save money. The Navy could also teach the Air Force how to run and manage a Top Gun program.
 

glhs837

Power with Control
They may be full but Edwards is getting a lot of USN testing. When PAX was up for BRAC (for real) a number of years ago the plan was to consolidate testing out there. Huge restricted air space, few if any residential developments, no dumb ass yuppies from Solomon's complaining. It would also save money. The Navy could also teach the Air Force how to run and manage a Top Gun program.

WE could certainly teach them how to runa test program. Having worked programs that used A/F equipment, and tried to reduce our testing based onm A/F testing. Couldnt, the way they tested didnt come close to meeting our standards.

But we do use Edwards and China Lake do get testing from here. Some things cant be done here. But tons can and is. Heck, sometimes we end up out there because we cant get range time here. They are not taking testing away from here.
 
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EmptyTimCup

Guest
Have lived in this area for a few years. Each year or so there are 'certainties' that the base will close in 'a few months.'

Non military worrier.


I am sure Johnstown will slowly wither on the vine, now hat Murtha has died
 

BernieP

Resident PIA
This comes up every time Steny is up for re-election. I swear, there must be a dedicated staffer to start & handle these rumors each election cycle.

Since it's surfacing so late, Steny must not be very worried about any possible competition for his seat.

I have to laugh every time I hear his commercial. What utter BS.
Every stinking congressman does the same thing and the lapdogs in his district eat this crap up - oh, our congressman saved us, he can't be replaced.
NEWSFLASH
Stop looking at what congressman Hand in Your Pocket is sending to your district, instead look at his political track record in congress. Look at they ally themselves with, their political agenda, not just how much money they bring home. Their replacement will do the same stinking thing.

But yes, there is only one military base in this region that is a lock to not be closed - Andres AFB, otherwise they wouldn't have a place to hangar the airplanes the carry POTUS around.
 

DEEKAYPEE8569

Well-Known Member
I have to laugh every time I hear his commercial. What utter BS.
Every stinking congressman does the same thing and the lapdogs in his district eat this crap up - oh, our congressman saved us, he can't be replaced.
NEWSFLASH
Stop looking at what congressman Hand in Your Pocket is sending to your district, instead look at his political track record in congress. Look at they ally themselves with, their political agenda, not just how much money they bring home. Their replacement will do the same stinking thing.

But yes, there is only one military base in this region that is a lock to not be closed - Andres AFB, otherwise they wouldn't have a place to hangar the airplanes the carry POTUS around.

Yup, POTUS would just only have the Presidential Helo here at PAX.
 

officeguy

Well-Known Member
Quantico???

The runway at Quantico MCAF is 4250ft. A bit short for a tanked up 747.

They could close Andrews and just park the executive transports at Dulles or BWI. Really no need for the royal dog&pony show. There is no single person important enough for that theater. He should ravel like the supreme court judges: In business class on a commercial flight. 1 seat for him, 1 for an assistant and 2 for the secret service guys.
 

blazinlow89

Big Poppa
The runway at Quantico MCAF is 4250ft. A bit short for a tanked up 747.

They could close Andrews and just park the executive transports at Dulles or BWI. Really no need for the royal dog&pony show. There is no single person important enough for that theater. He should ravel like the supreme court judges: In business class on a commercial flight. 1 seat for him, 1 for an assistant and 2 for the secret service guys.

Not referring to Quantico for Air force one. Quantico houses the entire fleet of Marine One presidential helicopters.
 

ShyGirl

Active Member
Defense Secretary Panetta backed off of the push for two more rounds of base closures in 2013 and 2015.

That doesn't necessarily mean that there will be the same amount of money in the budget or that jobs would be saved.

Some defense and domestic spending cuts are supposed to start on Jan 2, unless Congress does something about it. Defense contractors might not be getting enough $$ in 2013 to retain their workforce.
 
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czygvtwkr

Guest
They may be full but Edwards is getting a lot of USN testing. When PAX was up for BRAC (for real) a number of years ago the plan was to consolidate testing out there. Huge restricted air space, few if any residential developments, no dumb ass yuppies from Solomon's complaining. It would also save money. The Navy could also teach the Air Force how to run and manage a Top Gun program.

IF the testing moved out there, the Navy people have to live somewhere...residential areas start popping up.

Save money, lol apparetly you haven't had to pay for testing there.

One thing the west coast bases can't make any more of and have no more of than we do is RF spectrum. You can only cram so much data into what RF spectrum that we have available.

I could see Lakehurst closing and coming to PAX though.
 

officeguy

Well-Known Member
Not referring to Quantico for Air force one. Quantico houses the entire fleet of Marine One presidential helicopters.

I understood your post to mean that Quantico can't be closed because of its role in the presidential transports. The helos could be moved to Andrews without much effort, moving the AF-1 operation somewhere else is subject to runway limitations.
Both could be closed tomorrow, no base is indispensable. For the next 4 years, blue-state bases are secure.
 
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