Billionaire Trump can't come up with $464 million for bond

[CPUSA]

Did someone tell you to post this?

Let's say it is true. If all banks do this in the calculations and it is written in their underwriting rules what exactly are you alleging the issue is?

Right now, I'm alleging that you're an imbecilic retard that should go draw a hot bath, grab a straight razor, and do your part to lower your own worthless carbon footprint...Is it possible for you to be any more ignorant? Please...post something...ANYTHING...and show this forum that, YES, you CAN be even more ignorant than your last post...

JFC!!...What a waste of human DNA...
I'm surprised you can even breathe on your own...

 

[OccamsRazor]

Did someone tell you to post this?

Let's say it is true. If all banks do this in the calculations and it is written in their underwriting rules what exactly are you alleging the issue is?

#1: It is true
#2: You said "lying on a bank statement was illegal." Or, do you need me to prove THAT to you as well? So, if Trump is getting brought to court for lying on a bank statement, then why aren't ALL lenders that inflate non-taxed income? A lie on a bank statement is a lie on a bank statement.....AmIright

 

[vraiblonde]

#1: It is true
#2: You said "lying on a bank statement was illegal." Or, do you need me to prove THAT to you as well? So, if Trump is getting brought to court for lying on a bank statement, then why aren't ALL lenders that inflate non-taxed income? A lie on a bank statement is a lie on a bank statement.....AmIright

Trump didn't lie on the bank statement. The bankers testified to that.

 

[StmarysCity79]

#1: It is true
#2: You said "lying on a bank statement was illegal." Or, do you need me to prove THAT to you as well? So, if Trump is getting brought to court for lying on a bank statement, then why aren't ALL lenders that inflate non-taxed income? A lie on a bank statement is a lie on a bank statement.....AmIright

Are you now alleging banks are defrauding themselves?

Your argument makes no sense. It is simply stating that this income is steady and not taxed so it's value is higher than income that is taxed.

Jesus what an obscure and idiotic thing to argue.


If i have everyone that applies for a loan add an R at the end of their name would you also count that as fraud?

 

[Kyle]

Are you now alleging banks are defrauding themselves?

The bank wasn't defrauded.

They do THEIR OWN examination of his resources.

 

[OccamsRazor]

Are you now alleging banks are defrauding themselves?

Your argument makes no sense. It is simply stating that this income is steady and not taxed so it's value is higher than income that is taxed.

Jesus what an obscure and idiotic thing to argue.


If i have everyone that applies for a loan add an R at the end of their name would you also count that as fraud?

If you had any concept of following a conversation, you would see that I was refuting your claim about "lying on a bank statement is illegal."
I can point to that post as a reference if you need me to.
So... now that I have restated this 3 times. If Trump can be found liable for lying on a bank statement, why aren't millions of lenders?

 

[StmarysCity79]

If you had any concept of following a conversation, you would see that I was refuting your claim about "lying on a bank statement is illegal."
I can point to that post as a reference if you need me to.
So... now that I have restated this 3 times. If Trump can be found liable for lying on a bank statement, why aren't millions of lenders?

Who do those lenders submit the statement to? The Banks

Who made the rule that you can count untaxable income at 125%? The Banks

So they are completely aware having made the rule that this is happening so no fraud is occurring.

 

[StmarysCity79]

Trump didn't lie on the bank statement. The bankers testified to that.

Wrong again.

He claimed his PH was almost 4x it's size for collateral.

Donald Trump obtained hundreds of millions of dollars in loans using financial statements that a court has since deemed fraudulent, a retired bank official testified Wednesday at the former president’s New York civil fraud trial.

Trump’s “statements of financial condition” were key to his approval for a $125 million loan in 2011 for his golf resort in Doral, Florida, and a $107 million loan in 2012 for his Chicago hotel and condo skyscraper, former Deutsche Bank risk management officer Nicholas Haigh testified.

But although the bank didn’t conduct its own full appraisals of Trump’s properties, it sometimes gave sizable “haircuts” to the values he’d placed on such holdings as Trump Tower and his golf courses, Haigh said.

“I think the phrase we used might have been ‘sanity checks’ on the numbers,” he said.




Those numbers helped Trump secure bigger loans and lower interest rates, said Haigh, who headed the risk group for the bank’s private wealth management unit from 2008 to 2018.

Banker says Trump’s financial statements were key to loan approvals, but there were 'sanity checks'

Donald Trump obtained millions in loans using financial statements that a court has since deemed fraudulent, a retired bank official testified.

apnews.com

 

[OccamsRazor]

Who do those lenders submit the statement to? The Banks

Who made the rule that you can count untaxable income at 125%? The Banks

So they are completely aware having made the rule that this is happening so no fraud is occurring.

Funny that you think the bank didn't do their due diligence when researching Trump's info.....
Now you are moving the goal posts. What happened to the flat statement of "lying on a bank statement is a crime?"

 

[Gilligan]

Are you now alleging banks are defrauding themselves?

Which bank(s) did Trump defraud? Be very specific. I cannot find a single bank claiming they were unhappy with the loans they made.

 

[StmarysCity79]

Funny that you think the bank didn't do their due diligence when researching Trump's info.....
Now you are moving the goal posts. What happened to the flat statement of "lying on a bank statement is a crime?"

Trump lied on the bank statement. That is what i asserted and that is true.

The banks can not lie to themselves given they made the rule. It would be the same if they said income from drug deals can't be used to qualify for loans. Are you gonna sue claiming fraud because all your money is from drug deals and it's income?

How can you possibly be this glaringly stupid and not forget to breath?

 

[OccamsRazor]

Trump lied on the bank statement. That is what i asserted and that is true.

The banks can not lie to themselves given they made the rule. It would be the same if they said income from drug deals can't be used to qualify for loans. Are you gonna sue claiming fraud because all your money is from drug deals and it's income?

So, I guess everything is all white with the banks lying on statements but... not Trump because... TDS! Way to selectively pick and choose those battles!

How can you possibly be this glaringly stupid and not forget to breath?

Not stupid enough to know the proper usage and spelling of the word "breathe?" Rule #1: When trying to own someone, make sure you don't sound like a dumba$$ yourself

 

[StmarysCity79]

So, I guess everything is all white with the banks lying on statements but... not Trump because... TDS! Way to selectively pick and choose those battles!

Not stupid enough to know the proper usage and spelling of the word "breathe?" Rule #1: When trying to own someone, make sure you don't sound like a dumba$$ yourself

THEY ARE NOT LYING TO THEMSELVES.

AS THE LENDERS THEY CAN MAKE ANY RULE THEY WANT AS LONG AS IT IS APPLIED TO EVERYONE.




IS YOUR BRAIN BROKEN?

 

[OccamsRazor]

AS THE LENDERS THEY CAN MAKE ANY RULE THEY WANT AS LONG AS IT IS APPLIED TO EVERYONE.

Yep. No one has ever heard of a banking/lender institution being busted for breaking the rules.

 

[StmarysCity79]

Yep. No one has ever heard of a banking/lender institution being busted for breaking the rules.

it's not breaking the rules since they made it a rule. I don't understand how you can get this.

It's as if they said you must fill out a form to apply for a loan and then you scream. "Can you believe they require a form! That's illegal."

 

[stgislander]

 

[StmarysCity79]

But i thought all the judges in NY hated Trump and this was all politically motivated?

 

[Gilligan]

IS YOUR BRAIN BROKEN?

Extreme irony alert!!!

 

[vraiblonde]

But i thought all the judges in NY hated Trump and this was all politically motivated?

I admit, I'm surprised. But if you don't think all these lawsuits from all these Democrats are politically motivated, you are one dumb cultbot. The more honest cultists admit that this whole thing is politically motivated but don't care because orange man bad.

 

[StmarysCity79]

I admit, I'm surprised. But if you don't think all these lawsuits from all these Democrats are politically motivated, you are one dumb cultbot. The more honest cultists admit that this whole thing is politically motivated but don't care because orange man bad.

Everyone knows Trump is criminal and has know it for decades. ( this should be enough to make it true right? Just repeat it enough)

He is barred from running a charity since the last one for kids with cancer he stole all the money.

He is banned form running a university since the last one he defrauded the students.

Banned from running a casino

This merely the law catching up with him.

The case in FL with a Trump appointed judge who keeps bending the rules to give Trump every advantage is certainly not bias against him.

And the one in GA where they are bending over backward to drag the DA through the mud.



Do you not hear yourself?