Chelsea tweets; gets roasted

luvmygdaughters

Well-Known Member
Pass has many gun laws has you want, it wont stop the violence in this country. If someone wants a gun, they will find a way to get it. Just ask any felon who has been released from prison. They legally cannot own a gun, but, how many times have you seen it reported here? Felon arrested with several guns...do you think he went through the proper channels to get them?? I would say the majority of legal gun owners are responsible, honest people. The guy from Texas fell through the cracks, it happens. Taking guns from citizens is not the answer. Keeping the illegals guns out of the hands of criminals and mentally disturbed is.
 

Gilligan

#*! boat!
PREMO Member
So you think it is just a coincidence that there has been a mass killing due to guns in Australia since they banned them in 1996?

BTW moron...there are roughly 3 million guns in private hands in Australia. Furthermore, pointing to the non-occurrence of a very rare event and claiming the stringent gun control legislation and buyback was responsible/causal is completely and totally invalid.
 

vraiblonde

Board Mommy
PREMO Member
Patron
Why are we the only country with a epidemic of mass shootings and the highest gun ownership rate in the world?

Do you ever get tired of being wrong?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rate#By_country

Wouldn't it be amazing if we had something...something we could use to look things up...that was right in front of us and easy to search? Then we wouldn't say silly things that cause us to look foolish in public.

PRO TIP: Clickee on the reference link to get to the original UNODC source.

And before you go, "Oh, UNODC! Pfft! Biased source! Fake news!" be aware that that is the United Nations Office on Drugs and Crime.

And one more thing before you pee your panties at seeing the US at the top of the list: click the Rate arrow to sort in ascending or descending order.
 

Gilligan

#*! boat!
PREMO Member
Do you ever get tired of being wrong?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rate#By_country

Wouldn't it be amazing if we had something...something we could use to look things up...that was right in front of us and easy to search? Then we wouldn't say silly things that cause us to look foolish in public.

PRO TIP: Clickee on the reference link to get to the original UNODC source.

And before you go, "Oh, UNODC! Pfft! Biased source! Fake news!" be aware that that is the United Nations Office on Drugs and Crime.

And one more thing before you pee your panties at seeing the US at the top of the list: click the Rate arrow to sort in ascending or descending order.

We only barely made it in to the top 100....
 

Hijinx

Well-Known Member
Vrai asked if Sap ever tires of being wrong.

The guy has the endurance of a long distance runner when it comes to being wrong.

But he is amusing on a chilly fall day when the sun goes down early and there is nothing better to do than rattle his cage.
 

Gilligan

#*! boat!
PREMO Member
Vrai asked if Sap ever tires of being wrong.

The guy has the endurance of a long distance runner when it comes to being wrong.

But he is amusing on a chilly fall day when the sun goes down early and there is nothing better to do than rattle his cage.

It reminds me of pulling the wings off of flies...except in Sappy's case, I think he likes it.
 

Sapidus

Well-Known Member
BTW moron...there are roughly 3 million guns in private hands in Australia. Furthermore, pointing to the non-occurrence of a very rare event and claiming the stringent gun control legislation and buyback was responsible/causal is completely and totally invalid.


After a series of mass shooting events they banned automatic weapons and haven’t had an incident in over 20 years. Yeah. The two can’t possibly be related.

Sadly it is not a rare event any longer in this country. It’s become commonplace
 

Gilligan

#*! boat!
PREMO Member
After a series of mass shooting events they banned automatic weapons and haven’t had an incident in over 20 years. Yeah. The two can’t possibly be related.

Sadly it is not a rare event any longer in this country. It’s become commonplace
. What is a "series"?

And the ban had nothing to do with automatic weapons. Why do you always lie?
 

black dog

Free America
After a series of mass shooting events they banned automatic weapons and haven’t had an incident in over 20 years. Yeah. The two can’t possibly be related.

Sadly it is not a rare event any longer in this country. It’s become commonplace

Who cares about Australia, We have a 2nd amendment... " Shall not Infringe "
 

SamSpade

Well-Known Member
There have been no mass shooting events since the gun law was passed.

Now they can concern themselves with other shootings since they have solved the first problem.

Actually, there's been a few. I suppose it depends if you only call it a mass shooting if more than 3 people get shot in one incident.

But the gun homicides that have been going on for ages, the gun laws as restrictive as they are have done really nothing to change.
Many of the countries that have enacted strong gun laws were already low on gun crime and declining over the last few decades.
This is roughly akin to the drop in violent crime over decades here in the U.S.

You would THINK if you severely curtail the ability of people to own and use guns, the homicide rate wouldn't just go down -
it should approach ZERO. It hasn't, because of something the guy in Sutherland Springs observed - a person who intends to KILL people
isn't going to be slowed down by the fact that he can't get a gun LEGALLY. It would be like making very slow speed limits in those areas
where people are being mowed down by cars - if you're going to kill people with your car, the speed limit won't do anything.

There's at least one other point of comparison that's overlooked here - besides the point that the Port Arthur massacre was an outlier in the history of Australia.
When you add up the gun deaths from mass shootings in the U.S. and place them next to the number simply killed by guns, there's no comparison.
The latter is HUGE in comparison. Secondly, we narrowly define "mass shooting" as multiple deaths by a single - or possibly two - identifiable gunman where
there are any number of casualties all in a minute. We do NOT count a night-time barrage of bullets by a gang spraying neighborhoods with guns on a nightly
basis. Ten people killed in a school or church? Horrendous. Ten people killed one evening in a major city by gangs - possibly the same persons and NONE of
them caught? We get YAWNS. The news doesn't call it a mass shooting. Even though it happens in the same general geography.

Now that may be a matter of defining things. For example, I have relatives who would have called all of the recent shootings "terrorism".
No. They're not. A terrorist has a purpose, an agenda - and an identifiable group to communicate their idea.
The guy who blew up the lunch counter where my Dad went to eat in England years ago -
he was part of the IRA. And he had a mission. (My Dad survived). The 9/11 attackers - a mission. Suicide bombers - a mission.

A nut shooting people he hates - not terrorism. Dangerous. But not terrorism.

Similarly - a "mass shooting" as we see it in the news doesn't differ greatly from the results in our cities.
As many as a dozen killed in a large city in a given night, and some of them by the same people or same groups.
We don't call them mass killings. (Oddly enough, some countries don't define HOMICIDE the way we do. In countries like Japan, if a father slaughters his family and then himself, it is called a mass suicide. Similar for some events in Europe where unsolved gun deaths might be ruled suicide).

Ok - this has been long - but right now, we have thousands killed in gun homicides and dozens in mass shootings.
The former seems to be a much greater problem and gun laws don't do anything.
Nor do they appear to do anything elsewhere. Moreover, our current gun laws would not have stopped any of the recent shootings.
But men armed with guns - DID.
 

Merlin99

Visualize whirled peas
PREMO Member
After a series of mass shooting events they banned automatic weapons and haven’t had an incident in over 20 years. Yeah. The two can’t possibly be related.

Sadly it is not a rare event any longer in this country. It’s become commonplace

Yes it is a rare event, if it was commonplace it wouldn't be making the news.
 
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